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Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
by JCW
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
by Blast
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:16 pm
by Whackov
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
Maybe you should reach out to this guy. He is obviously interested in more than cuddling.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:30 pm
by JCW
Whackov wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:16 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
Maybe you should reach out to this guy. He is obviously interested in more than cuddling.
Nah I've made it a point not to date men I could snap in half.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
by JCW
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".
Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:39 pm
by necronomous
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
Almost there.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:04 pm
by JCW
necronomous wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:39 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
Almost there.
Missed my explanation? That's the thing about white privilege.
Thinking it's not a thing IS white privilege.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 pm
by Whackov
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".


Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.
What he needs is a vasectomy.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:10 pm
by necronomous
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:04 pm
necronomous wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:39 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
Almost there.
Missed my explanation? That's the thing about white privilege.
Thinking it's not a thing IS white privilege.
Little closer

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:23 pm
by JCW
Whackov wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".


Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.
What he needs is a vasectomy.
Oh I fully agree. I'm not even sure how this turned into a race debate, this is inexcusable for any race and this guy should be fully responsible for the cost of all these kids. Giving women $1.50 a month in child support is a fucking joke.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm
by HighNDry
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:23 pm
Whackov wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:07 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".


Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.
What he needs is a vasectomy.
Oh I fully agree. I'm not even sure how this turned into a race debate, this is inexcusable for any race and this guy should be fully responsible for the cost of all these kids. Giving women $1.50 a month in child support is a fucking joke.
Perhaps you've never heard of the McDonald's Dollar Menu?

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:33 pm
by JCW
HighNDry wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm Perhaps you've never heard of the McDonald's Dollar Menu?
Its the $1.39 menu here. :/

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:36 pm
by HighNDry
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:33 pm
HighNDry wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm Perhaps you've never heard of the McDonald's Dollar Menu?
Its the $1.39 menu here. :/
Doesn't have the same ring to it.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:36 pm
by Charliesheen
They can't get welfare unless they name the father. He's an excellent choice.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:46 pm
by Animal
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.
your cape is backordered. It should be here mid February. I'm not sure what made me think of that.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:32 pm
by CHEEZY17
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:04 pm
necronomous wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:39 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
Almost there.
Missed my explanation? That's the thing about white privilege.
Thinking it's not a thing IS white privilege.
Image

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:38 pm
by Blast
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".
Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.
A circular arguement. Everyone is bombarded on a daily basis with suggestion and rules. You can't tell me the fuckups of the world have never heard don't show up till work drunk or you'll get fired. That doesn't stop them. You can try mentoring them, showing them what is needed, how to be a good employee but so far I've stuck out doing it. One some the other showed up drunk and pissed that he'd done nothing wrong after cusssing it customers. There are no real consequences. There isn't the thought of, I need to work or my family will starve. When I get fired the unemployment benefits last 6 months, then food stamps and welfare. I get to stay home and drink all day for at least a year before I need to find a job again.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:40 pm
by Animal
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:38 pm A circular arguement. Everyone is bombarded on a daily basis with suggestion and rules. You can't tell me the fuckups of the world have never heard don't show up till work drunk or you'll get fired. That doesn't stop them. You can try mentoring them, showing them what is needed, how to be a good employee but so far I've stuck out doing it. One some the other showed up drunk and pissed that he'd done nothing wrong after cusssing it customers. There are no real consequences. There isn't the thought of, I need to work or my family will starve. When I get fired the unemployment benefits last 6 months, then food stamps and welfare. I get to stay home and drink all day for at least a year before I need to find a job again.
very well said.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:50 pm
by JCW
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:38 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".
Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.
A circular arguement. Everyone is bombarded on a daily basis with suggestion and rules. You can't tell me the fuckups of the world have never heard don't show up till work drunk or you'll get fired. That doesn't stop them. You can try mentoring them, showing them what is needed, how to be a good employee but so far I've stuck out doing it. One some the other showed up drunk and pissed that he'd done nothing wrong after cusssing it customers. There are no real consequences. There isn't the thought of, I need to work or my family will starve. When I get fired the unemployment benefits last 6 months, then food stamps and welfare. I get to stay home and drink all day for at least a year before I need to find a job again.
Unfortunately by employable years, you're pretty much set on whatever path you're on. Its very hard to teach a 45yo person a whole new mindset. You've gotta get that shit done when they are kids and early teens. Set them up for success, not fix the damage after the fact. This is where education and mentorship is key.

You guys really dont believe that if you're raised by fuckups, surrounded by fuckups, the default position wont be becoming a fuckup? Sure there are exceptions but if I'm talking generalities here.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:38 pm
by VinceBordenIII
Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:42 pm
JCW wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:40 pm I mean there is a certain truth to the narrative of systematic racism keeping certain populations chronically in the poverty cycle but for this particular story I dont see how that's a problem here other than hes 33 and still working a minimum wage job, presumably from a lack of education?
The only thing -- the only thing -- keeping people in a poverty cycle is their own stupid life choices.
Yes and no. Let's say you're an urban teenager. Your parenting sucks, your associations are possibly poisonous, the school you attend is violent and can't really teach very well...

Yeah, you CAN pull yourself out of that. But, tbh, you were quite possibly born in a nosedive.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:34 pm
by kwebber
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:04 pm
necronomous wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:39 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
Almost there.
Missed my explanation? That's the thing about white privilege.
Thinking it's not a thing IS white privilege.
So, by your logic, me saying it's not real is proof that it's real? So basically, because you believe it, no one can tell you it's not real? Denying it exists means it's real? Solid logic right there. Claiming your failings are a result of something out of your control absolves you of all responsibility for your lot in life. That is laughable. Here is your "White privilege" explained. Save your White guilt. You can keep it to yourself. Not everyone buys that bullshit. Jump to 5:10


Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:38 pm
by Wut
VinceBordenIII wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:38 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:42 pm
JCW wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:40 pm I mean there is a certain truth to the narrative of systematic racism keeping certain populations chronically in the poverty cycle but for this particular story I dont see how that's a problem here other than hes 33 and still working a minimum wage job, presumably from a lack of education?
The only thing -- the only thing -- keeping people in a poverty cycle is their own stupid life choices.
Yes and no. Let's say you're an urban teenager. Your parenting sucks, your associations are possibly poisonous, the school you attend is violent and can't really teach very well...

Yeah, you CAN pull yourself out of that. But, tbh, you were quite possibly born in a nosedive.
I agree with this.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:03 pm
by kwebber
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Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:09 pm
by Deathproof
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:34 pm
Blast wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:00 pm
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
That stuff is bullshit. There are just as many white fuckups. White trash anyone?
It comes down to choices and mindset, and they are never easy. If you think the world's is stacked against you how hard are going to try? I miss the mindset of "fuck you I'm going to make it on my own".
Never said there weren't white fuckups. I'm saying that thinking it's just a matter of deciding to make better choices comes from a place of white privilege. If you come from a very poor upbringing surrounded by bad choices, you dont even know what the right choices ARE. These people need mentoring, opportunities, to find value in themselves/their community and education, in addition to this new mindset.
Oh, bullshit. If you're surrounded by the results of bad choices, the right choices -- or at least better choices -- are obvious: not the ones around you.
Please stop pretending being pov is a state of victimhood or circumstance. It's the result of poor decision-making and nothing else.

Re: 33yo dad with 30 kids asks for break in child support

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:10 pm
by Deathproof
JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:37 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am Horseshit. It's not difficult to look around you, notice how fucking pov everything is, and go "Fuck this, I'm gonna make better choices."
White privilege is cute.
It is! Just like unicorns.

Another thing white privilege has in common with unicorns is that they're both myths.