I think Cheezy is a Lions fansaltydog wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:43 pmCut him some slack. He's got to suffer under another Bears season right now.dot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:44 pm Want? No, just accurately pointing out that your accusation is a confession. Because it's been months. Prove he did a crime, not his son. You still can't tie him to anything you want to harp on. When you can show he did something, then there can be a discussion. Because you can't, there won't be. The only thing you're openly transparent about is that you began with a conclusion and have worked backwards from there. Any objective person would have seen the many faked instances of "evidence" in this farce and given pause to their confidence. But everytime you have hit that speedbump, you only double down and then refuse to acknowledge it was a key point before it proved to be false. "Devon Archer testimony, just wait for the transcript, it's gonna be glorious!" Whoops, he said Joe Biden had nothing to do with it, what now? "Abort! Didn't exist! Move on!" Bribery tapes, whistleblowers that weren't whistleblowers, fugitive Chinese arms dealer spy, it's happened time after time and yet you will not acknowledge the mountain of falsehoods you've accumulated. You're transparent alright. About being a disingenuous hack.
Enough evidence for SaltyDot?
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Dodge noted, hack. Your cowardice shines through again!dot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:44 pm Want? No, just accurately pointing out that your accusation is a confession. Because it's been months. Prove he did a crime, not his son. You still can't tie him to anything you want to harp on. When you can show he did something, then there can be a discussion. Because you can't, there won't be. The only thing you're openly transparent about is that you began with a conclusion and have worked backwards from there. Any objective person would have seen the many faked instances of "evidence" in this farce and given pause to their confidence. But everytime you have hit that speedbump, you only double down and then refuse to acknowledge it was a key point before it proved to be false. "Devon Archer testimony, just wait for the transcript, it's gonna be glorious!" Whoops, he said Joe Biden had nothing to do with it, what now? "Abort! Didn't exist! Move on!" Bribery tapes, whistleblowers that weren't whistleblowers, fugitive Chinese arms dealer spy, it's happened time after time and yet you will not acknowledge the mountain of falsehoods you've accumulated. You're transparent alright. About being a disingenuous hack.
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Yet another thing Salty gets wrong.Biker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:33 pmI think Cheezy is a Lions fansaltydog wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:43 pmCut him some slack. He's got to suffer under another Bears season right now.dot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:44 pm Want? No, just accurately pointing out that your accusation is a confession. Because it's been months. Prove he did a crime, not his son. You still can't tie him to anything you want to harp on. When you can show he did something, then there can be a discussion. Because you can't, there won't be. The only thing you're openly transparent about is that you began with a conclusion and have worked backwards from there. Any objective person would have seen the many faked instances of "evidence" in this farce and given pause to their confidence. But everytime you have hit that speedbump, you only double down and then refuse to acknowledge it was a key point before it proved to be false. "Devon Archer testimony, just wait for the transcript, it's gonna be glorious!" Whoops, he said Joe Biden had nothing to do with it, what now? "Abort! Didn't exist! Move on!" Bribery tapes, whistleblowers that weren't whistleblowers, fugitive Chinese arms dealer spy, it's happened time after time and yet you will not acknowledge the mountain of falsehoods you've accumulated. You're transparent alright. About being a disingenuous hack.
I'm from Detroit. Bears blow.
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Yet I'm not refusing. Thats what the committee is investigating. Its an ongoing investigation concerning his ties to the "Biden Brand" and the bribery and extortion they engaged in.
https://oversight.house.gov/landing/bid ... stigation/
"Evidence obtained by Committee Republicans reveals Joe Biden lied to the American people about his involvement in his family’s business schemes. The Biden family business model is built on Joe Biden’s political career and connections with Joe Biden as the ‘chairman of the board.’ Biden family members sold access for profit around the world to the detriment of American interests. If President Biden is compromised by deals with foreign adversaries and they are impacting his decision making, this is a threat to national security. The American people deserve transparency and accountability about the Biden family’s influence peddling."
See how I addressed that? Clearly and to the best of my ability. No dodging, no deflecting and directly responding to your point.
Now, how about you give it a go!
Are the "Biden Brand" shell companies real and why do people create shell companies?
I'm not asking about anything else. I'm not asking your opinion on the investigation as a whole. I'm not asking if you think Turley is a hack. I'm not asking about Trump or January 6th. I'm not asking about anything else. Just focus on this question in its singularity and outside of anything else and answer honestly:
Are the "Biden Brand" shell companies real and why do people create shell companies?
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If the check from James to Joe is a loan repayment. Where is the check from Joe to James for the initial loan?
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you are going to have to explain that. the state of New York is suing Trump to recover income taxes that he cheated them out of because he inflated his asset values to get lower interest rates on loans? what in the fuck?dot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:01 pm For the hack, prove Joe Biden committed a crime before you ask me about things you have not been able to prove he had anything to do with. It's been months, you still can't do it. Clock's ticking.
Is this more of your uninformed opinion showing? The state is doing the prosecuting because the Trumps were cheating on taxes in connection with this fraud scheme of theirs. I mean seriously, just do the slightest amount of homework instead of going with your gut instinct on the subject because your gut has shown you in the wrong every time on this situation. Do I need to remind you of the fraud debacle you got yourself into?Animal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:35 pm if these companies feel like they were cheated out of millions of dollars, it would be their attorneys in the courtroom doing the fact finding. not some wanna be celebrity judge. companies that are cheated out of millions of dollars don't sit around and wait on civil litigation that isn't out to recover money for them. Is the state of new york planning to donate this $250 million fine they are threatening Trump with back to the companies they think were damaged?
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The latest information Ive read is that Shit Show, of course, is reluctant to provide, or more likely cant provide, that information.
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No. You did what you always do and refuse to state what he did to be guilty in your eyes, because don't forget, your star witness said he doesn't see proof of what you see despite months of you stating your reps had gotten the goods. So either state what he did to be corrupt, or admit you have a conclusion you're just working backwards from. If you want to go after his family, then have it at as many have said already. But you have nothing on Joe Biden himself, so the rest of the family isn't good enough for you to settle on. Once and for all, what crime did he commit? What does your months of evidence prove he did, ignoring that Turley said it don't mean jack. There's a reason you can't say, forcing you to continuously say "the Biden Brand" or "the Biden crime family." It's because you got nothing on Joe Biden himself. Disingenuous. Hack.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:21 am Yet I'm not refusing. Thats what the committee is investigating. Its an ongoing investigation concerning his ties to the "Biden Brand" and the bribery and extortion they engaged in.
https://oversight.house.gov/landing/bid ... stigation/
"Evidence obtained by Committee Republicans reveals Joe Biden lied to the American people about his involvement in his family’s business schemes. The Biden family business model is built on Joe Biden’s political career and connections with Joe Biden as the ‘chairman of the board.’ Biden family members sold access for profit around the world to the detriment of American interests. If President Biden is compromised by deals with foreign adversaries and they are impacting his decision making, this is a threat to national security. The American people deserve transparency and accountability about the Biden family’s influence peddling."
See how I addressed that? Clearly and to the best of my ability. No dodging, no deflecting and directly responding to your point.
Or most likely, you just don't acknowledge he did like your reps because it blows apart your claim like always.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/politics ... index.html
Whoops, see what happens when you ignore evidence you don't like? Cause this was all posted already, just from a different source you immediately dismissed because you're a disingenuous hack.The banking records reviewed by CNN show that the $200,000 wire transfer was sent from an attorney trust account (an account used by a lawyer to hold a client’s money) at a Wilmington, Delaware, law firm that Joe Biden co-founded decades ago and that still has his longtime friend Melvyn Monzack as a partner.
The banking records reviewed by CNN do not show Joe Biden’s name anywhere on the wire transfer. But Comer’s committee possesses an additional piece of evidence that appears to clearly link Joe Biden to the attorney trust account the wire was from.
The evidence is a copy of another check, for $40,000, that was written by James Biden and his wife to Joe Biden in September 2017. On the back of that check, there is handwriting – with the president’s name Joseph R. Biden Jr., then a notation identifying Melvyn Monzack as Biden’s attorney-in-fact (which generally means a person who has been granted the right to act on behalf of someone else), then a stamp saying the money was deposited in an attorney trust account with a particular account number.
Though that account number was partially redacted by the source for privacy reasons, CNN was permitted to view four digits. Here’s the key: those four digits are the same as four digits on the account that sent the $200,000 wire transfer to James Biden in early 2018.
In other words, the evidence suggests that the $200,000 that was sent to James Biden in January 2018 came from an account that belonged to Joe Biden.
In a letter to Comer on Thursday, the top Democrat on the committee, Rep. Jamie Raskin, wrote that there is “clear evidence that this transaction was a short-term, interest-free loan between brothers, which occurred while President Biden was also a private citizen.” (Joe Biden was neither a government official nor a political candidate in 2018.)
Raskin wrote that “the bank records provided to the Committee clearly show that President Biden had $200,000 wired to his brother on January 12, 2018. Despite this clear evidence that James Biden received a loan from his brother on January 12, 2018, and paid him back 48 days later with a check for the same amount marked ‘loan repayment,’ you continue to misrepresent the facts.”
For once, just once, look it up and educate yourself. You've shown you clearly have the wrong gut instinct on this time and time again and you won't take my word for it. So instead of staying uneducated on purpose, go learn about it.
Then what policy for cash did he do? No one can say.
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What a bunch of horse shit. You prove your disingenuousness more every day.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:09 pmNo. You did what you always do and refuse to state what he did to be guilty in your eyes, because don't forget, your star witness said he doesn't see proof of what you see despite months of you stating your reps had gotten the goods. So either state what he did to be corrupt, or admit you have a conclusion you're just working backwards from. If you want to go after his family, then have it at as many have said already. But you have nothing on Joe Biden himself, so the rest of the family isn't good enough for you to settle on. Once and for all, what crime did he commit? What does your months of evidence prove he did, ignoring that Turley said it don't mean jack. There's a reason you can't say, forcing you to continuously say "the Biden Brand" or "the Biden crime family." It's because you got nothing on Joe Biden himself. Disingenuous. Hack.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:21 am Yet I'm not refusing. Thats what the committee is investigating. Its an ongoing investigation concerning his ties to the "Biden Brand" and the bribery and extortion they engaged in.
https://oversight.house.gov/landing/bid ... stigation/
"Evidence obtained by Committee Republicans reveals Joe Biden lied to the American people about his involvement in his family’s business schemes. The Biden family business model is built on Joe Biden’s political career and connections with Joe Biden as the ‘chairman of the board.’ Biden family members sold access for profit around the world to the detriment of American interests. If President Biden is compromised by deals with foreign adversaries and they are impacting his decision making, this is a threat to national security. The American people deserve transparency and accountability about the Biden family’s influence peddling."
See how I addressed that? Clearly and to the best of my ability. No dodging, no deflecting and directly responding to your point.
Or most likely, you just don't acknowledge he did like your reps because it blows apart your claim like always.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/politics ... index.html
Whoops, see what happens when you ignore evidence you don't like? Cause this was all posted already, just from a different source you immediately dismissed because you're a disingenuous hack.The banking records reviewed by CNN show that the $200,000 wire transfer was sent from an attorney trust account (an account used by a lawyer to hold a client’s money) at a Wilmington, Delaware, law firm that Joe Biden co-founded decades ago and that still has his longtime friend Melvyn Monzack as a partner.
The banking records reviewed by CNN do not show Joe Biden’s name anywhere on the wire transfer. But Comer’s committee possesses an additional piece of evidence that appears to clearly link Joe Biden to the attorney trust account the wire was from.
The evidence is a copy of another check, for $40,000, that was written by James Biden and his wife to Joe Biden in September 2017. On the back of that check, there is handwriting – with the president’s name Joseph R. Biden Jr., then a notation identifying Melvyn Monzack as Biden’s attorney-in-fact (which generally means a person who has been granted the right to act on behalf of someone else), then a stamp saying the money was deposited in an attorney trust account with a particular account number.
Though that account number was partially redacted by the source for privacy reasons, CNN was permitted to view four digits. Here’s the key: those four digits are the same as four digits on the account that sent the $200,000 wire transfer to James Biden in early 2018.
In other words, the evidence suggests that the $200,000 that was sent to James Biden in January 2018 came from an account that belonged to Joe Biden.
In a letter to Comer on Thursday, the top Democrat on the committee, Rep. Jamie Raskin, wrote that there is “clear evidence that this transaction was a short-term, interest-free loan between brothers, which occurred while President Biden was also a private citizen.” (Joe Biden was neither a government official nor a political candidate in 2018.)
Raskin wrote that “the bank records provided to the Committee clearly show that President Biden had $200,000 wired to his brother on January 12, 2018. Despite this clear evidence that James Biden received a loan from his brother on January 12, 2018, and paid him back 48 days later with a check for the same amount marked ‘loan repayment,’ you continue to misrepresent the facts.”
For once, just once, look it up and educate yourself. You've shown you clearly have the wrong gut instinct on this time and time again and you won't take my word for it. So instead of staying uneducated on purpose, go learn about it.
Then what policy for cash did he do? No one can say.
Charges are not leveled before the investigation is over so it is impossible to say what he is charged with. Thats not how it works you fucking retard. The investigation is ongoing. When they have concluded the investigation then the decision will be made as to what charges. They are investigating bribery and influence peddling among other things. So stop being a hack and acknowledge the fact that you are asking for something that has yet to be determined. The investigation is ongoing and you dont charge anything while the investigation is still in process. Maybe you dont legitimately understand that in which case youre just stupid or you do understand it which makes you a disingenuous hack. Take your pick retard.
No, stop deleting the question because youre a pussy:
Are the "Biden Brand" shell companies real and why do people create shell companies?
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i have read about it. and i have not one time seen anything about the state of New York suing for income taxes. All I have seen is that they say there were $250 million in "damages". Not taxes.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:09 pmNo. You did what you always do and refuse to state what he did to be guilty in your eyes, because don't forget, your star witness said he doesn't see proof of what you see despite months of you stating your reps had gotten the goods. So either state what he did to be corrupt, or admit you have a conclusion you're just working backwards from. If you want to go after his family, then have it at as many have said already. But you have nothing on Joe Biden himself, so the rest of the family isn't good enough for you to settle on. Once and for all, what crime did he commit? What does your months of evidence prove he did, ignoring that Turley said it don't mean jack. There's a reason you can't say, forcing you to continuously say "the Biden Brand" or "the Biden crime family." It's because you got nothing on Joe Biden himself. Disingenuous. Hack.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:21 am Yet I'm not refusing. Thats what the committee is investigating. Its an ongoing investigation concerning his ties to the "Biden Brand" and the bribery and extortion they engaged in.
https://oversight.house.gov/landing/bid ... stigation/
"Evidence obtained by Committee Republicans reveals Joe Biden lied to the American people about his involvement in his family’s business schemes. The Biden family business model is built on Joe Biden’s political career and connections with Joe Biden as the ‘chairman of the board.’ Biden family members sold access for profit around the world to the detriment of American interests. If President Biden is compromised by deals with foreign adversaries and they are impacting his decision making, this is a threat to national security. The American people deserve transparency and accountability about the Biden family’s influence peddling."
See how I addressed that? Clearly and to the best of my ability. No dodging, no deflecting and directly responding to your point.
Or most likely, you just don't acknowledge he did like your reps because it blows apart your claim like always.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/politics ... index.html
Whoops, see what happens when you ignore evidence you don't like? Cause this was all posted already, just from a different source you immediately dismissed because you're a disingenuous hack.The banking records reviewed by CNN show that the $200,000 wire transfer was sent from an attorney trust account (an account used by a lawyer to hold a client’s money) at a Wilmington, Delaware, law firm that Joe Biden co-founded decades ago and that still has his longtime friend Melvyn Monzack as a partner.
The banking records reviewed by CNN do not show Joe Biden’s name anywhere on the wire transfer. But Comer’s committee possesses an additional piece of evidence that appears to clearly link Joe Biden to the attorney trust account the wire was from.
The evidence is a copy of another check, for $40,000, that was written by James Biden and his wife to Joe Biden in September 2017. On the back of that check, there is handwriting – with the president’s name Joseph R. Biden Jr., then a notation identifying Melvyn Monzack as Biden’s attorney-in-fact (which generally means a person who has been granted the right to act on behalf of someone else), then a stamp saying the money was deposited in an attorney trust account with a particular account number.
Though that account number was partially redacted by the source for privacy reasons, CNN was permitted to view four digits. Here’s the key: those four digits are the same as four digits on the account that sent the $200,000 wire transfer to James Biden in early 2018.
In other words, the evidence suggests that the $200,000 that was sent to James Biden in January 2018 came from an account that belonged to Joe Biden.
In a letter to Comer on Thursday, the top Democrat on the committee, Rep. Jamie Raskin, wrote that there is “clear evidence that this transaction was a short-term, interest-free loan between brothers, which occurred while President Biden was also a private citizen.” (Joe Biden was neither a government official nor a political candidate in 2018.)
Raskin wrote that “the bank records provided to the Committee clearly show that President Biden had $200,000 wired to his brother on January 12, 2018. Despite this clear evidence that James Biden received a loan from his brother on January 12, 2018, and paid him back 48 days later with a check for the same amount marked ‘loan repayment,’ you continue to misrepresent the facts.”
For once, just once, look it up and educate yourself. You've shown you clearly have the wrong gut instinct on this time and time again and you won't take my word for it. So instead of staying uneducated on purpose, go learn about it.
Then what policy for cash did he do? No one can say.
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That didn't stop you from pronouncing him guilty months ago. All I'm saying is what's he guilty of? Tell us, what did he do? You still can't answer it. So seethe harder if you have to, but this is all to point out that you have got nothing and have had nothing from the start. You are fishing in order to make something stick because you had a predetermined conclusion from the beginning. That's not objective, that is what makes you a disingenuous hack.
I'm really trying to not have to do your homework for you, but no one said income taxes except you. Once again, that is your chronic disinterest in educating yourself on the subject. Now if you have "read about it," how come you consistently come up with wildly inaccurate takes on the subject? My favorite is still how you can't fathom how fraud works, by the way.
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In response to the thread title.
Nope.
Regardless of what James Comer wants to imagine along with the anti-Biden contingent.
Nope.
Regardless of what James Comer wants to imagine along with the anti-Biden contingent.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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The committee is investigating, among other things, a combination of bribery, extortion, influence peddling and abuse of office. I suspect at the end the charge(s) will stem from those things.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:24 pmThat didn't stop you from pronouncing him guilty months ago. All I'm saying is what's he guilty of? Tell us, what did he do? You still can't answer it. So seethe harder if you have to, but this is all to point out that you have got nothing and have had nothing from the start. You are fishing in order to make something stick because you had a predetermined conclusion from the beginning. That's not objective, that is what makes you a disingenuous hack.
"Whats he guilty of?" JFC. Thats what the investigation is determining. That is literally their objective. Again, I suspect it will be one or more of the above.
Subpoenaed bank documents from multiple banks are definitely something and they show deposits from foreign entities into Biden Brand shell companies which then dispersed them to over 9 Biden family members accounts including one labeled "JRB".
Now,
Are the "Biden Brand" shell companies real and why do people create shell companies?
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Disingenuous. Hack.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:29 pm The committee is investigating, among other things, a combination of bribery, extortion, influence peddling and abuse of office. I suspect at the end the charge(s) will stem from those things.
"Whats he guilty of?" JFC. Thats what the investigation is determining. That is literally their objective. Again, I suspect it will be one or more of the above.
Subpoenaed bank documents from multiple banks are definitely something and they show deposits from foreign entities into Biden Brand shell companies which then dispersed them to over 9 Biden family members accounts including one labeled "JRB".
You made your predetermined conclusion months ago, so what did he do that you deemed him guilty of? You don't get to pawn off your answer on the committee, because you had already deemed him guilty before now. So go ahead, what did he do? You said he's guilty, of what? And once you've finally committed yourself, then weigh that against the fact that Turley disagrees with you. Everything you said makes him guilty, Turley said no it doesn't. And don't think I didn't notice you again did exactly what I said you would do.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:24 pm That didn't stop you from pronouncing him guilty months ago. All I'm saying is what's he guilty of? Tell us, what did he do? You still can't answer it. So seethe harder if you have to, but this is all to point out that you have got nothing and have had nothing from the start. You are fishing in order to make something stick because you had a predetermined conclusion from the beginning. That's not objective, that is what makes you a disingenuous hack.
Disingenuous. Hack.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:09 pm No. You did what you always do and refuse to state what he did to be guilty in your eyes, because don't forget, your star witness said he doesn't see proof of what you see despite months of you stating your reps had gotten the goods. So either state what he did to be corrupt, or admit you have a conclusion you're just working backwards from. If you want to go after his family, then have it at as many have said already. But you have nothing on Joe Biden himself, so the rest of the family isn't good enough for you to settle on. Once and for all, what crime did he commit? What does your months of evidence prove he did, ignoring that Turley said it don't mean jack. There's a reason you can't say, forcing you to continuously say "the Biden Brand" or "the Biden crime family." It's because you got nothing on Joe Biden himself. Disingenuous. Hack.
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Re: Enough evidence for SaltyDot?
you are the one that said the state of New York was suing for taxes. if its not income taxes, then what other kinds of taxes would the state sue for? sales taxes? you aren't making any sense here.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:24 pmThat didn't stop you from pronouncing him guilty months ago. All I'm saying is what's he guilty of? Tell us, what did he do? You still can't answer it. So seethe harder if you have to, but this is all to point out that you have got nothing and have had nothing from the start. You are fishing in order to make something stick because you had a predetermined conclusion from the beginning. That's not objective, that is what makes you a disingenuous hack.
I'm really trying to not have to do your homework for you, but no one said income taxes except you. Once again, that is your chronic disinterest in educating yourself on the subject. Now if you have "read about it," how come you consistently come up with wildly inaccurate takes on the subject? My favorite is still how you can't fathom how fraud works, by the way.
what taxes were they cheating New York out of?dot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:01 pm For the hack, prove Joe Biden committed a crime before you ask me about things you have not been able to prove he had anything to do with. It's been months, you still can't do it. Clock's ticking.
Is this more of your uninformed opinion showing? The state is doing the prosecuting because the Trumps were cheating on taxes in connection with this fraud scheme of theirs. I mean seriously, just do the slightest amount of homework instead of going with your gut instinct on the subject because your gut has shown you in the wrong every time on this situation. Do I need to remind you of the fraud debacle you got yourself into?Animal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:35 pm if these companies feel like they were cheated out of millions of dollars, it would be their attorneys in the courtroom doing the fact finding. not some wanna be celebrity judge. companies that are cheated out of millions of dollars don't sit around and wait on civil litigation that isn't out to recover money for them. Is the state of new york planning to donate this $250 million fine they are threatening Trump with back to the companies they think were damaged?
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Re: Enough evidence for SaltyDot?
Holy shit.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:57 pmDisingenuous. Hack.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:29 pm The committee is investigating, among other things, a combination of bribery, extortion, influence peddling and abuse of office. I suspect at the end the charge(s) will stem from those things.
"Whats he guilty of?" JFC. Thats what the investigation is determining. That is literally their objective. Again, I suspect it will be one or more of the above.
Subpoenaed bank documents from multiple banks are definitely something and they show deposits from foreign entities into Biden Brand shell companies which then dispersed them to over 9 Biden family members accounts including one labeled "JRB".
You made your predetermined conclusion months ago, so what did he do that you deemed him guilty of? You don't get to pawn off your answer on the committee, because you had already deemed him guilty before now. So go ahead, what did he do? You said he's guilty, of what? And once you've finally committed yourself, then weigh that against the fact that Turley disagrees with you. Everything you said makes him guilty, Turley said no it doesn't. And don't think I didn't notice you again did exactly what I said you would do.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:24 pm That didn't stop you from pronouncing him guilty months ago. All I'm saying is what's he guilty of? Tell us, what did he do? You still can't answer it. So seethe harder if you have to, but this is all to point out that you have got nothing and have had nothing from the start. You are fishing in order to make something stick because you had a predetermined conclusion from the beginning. That's not objective, that is what makes you a disingenuous hack.
Disingenuous. Hack.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:09 pm No. You did what you always do and refuse to state what he did to be guilty in your eyes, because don't forget, your star witness said he doesn't see proof of what you see despite months of you stating your reps had gotten the goods. So either state what he did to be corrupt, or admit you have a conclusion you're just working backwards from. If you want to go after his family, then have it at as many have said already. But you have nothing on Joe Biden himself, so the rest of the family isn't good enough for you to settle on. Once and for all, what crime did he commit? What does your months of evidence prove he did, ignoring that Turley said it don't mean jack. There's a reason you can't say, forcing you to continuously say "the Biden Brand" or "the Biden crime family." It's because you got nothing on Joe Biden himself. Disingenuous. Hack.
Theres a lot of retardation to unpack there but lets start here:
First, when I say the "Biden Brand" you can assume now and forever that I am including Shit Show in there because he is part of the "Biden Brand". He is the "Big Guy" at the top of the "Biden Brand".
Secondly, youre asking me, as a person who has not seen all of the evidence that the committee has, to pronounce what I think he is guilty of. Do you not see how dumb that is? The committee is investigating the "Biden Brand", including Joe Biden, for bribery, extortion, influence peddling and abuse of office among other things. Therefore, if I have to pick something he is guilty of go ahead and put me down for one of those.
You keep going back to your erroneous claim that Turley said they dont have anything. Thats not what he said, and you know it, so why do keep misrepresenting his words? Thats why youre a disingenuous hack. He said the evidence they have didnt meet impeachment at that point but the evidence is good enough to warrant continuing the investigation. Your claim and what he actually said are 2 very different things you fucking hack.
You can say "Once and for all" all you want but until the committee finishes their investigation it is not known exactly what the charges will be; we only know what they are investigating. So, going forward, whenever you feel the burning need to push your "What crime?" bullshit go ahead and insert the list of crimes the committee is investigating. THAT is the answer.
Now, part of the evidence that Turley thought was good enough to continue the investigation was the discovery of the "Biden Brand" shell companies. You know, the ones you keep dodging? The ones that are legally registered in Delaware? The ones that received millions of dollars in foreign money that then distributed that money to at least 9 Biden family accounts; one oddly labeled "JRB"? The ones Shit Show referenced using verified fake names and email accounts? Weird how you wont admit their existence. I'll save you the trouble of the obviously difficult intellectual self exploration you would have to do to determine why you keep dodging my very simple question: You dont want to admit that the "Biden Brand" shell companies are real because that means that the committee has real and true evidence and youve said all along that all of the evidence is fake. Basically, you cant admit the existence of the companies because then youd be admitting you were/are wrong. Its ok though, the state of Delaware, the Federal government and numerous multinational banks know theyre real.
Then you dont want to address the "why people create shell companies" part because, well, everyone knows why people do it:
People create shell companies to obfuscate the money trail.
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Don't real men do their own research?Animal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:50 pmyou are the one that said the state of New York was suing for taxes. if its not income taxes, then what other kinds of taxes would the state sue for? sales taxes? you aren't making any sense here.dot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:24 pmThat didn't stop you from pronouncing him guilty months ago. All I'm saying is what's he guilty of? Tell us, what did he do? You still can't answer it. So seethe harder if you have to, but this is all to point out that you have got nothing and have had nothing from the start. You are fishing in order to make something stick because you had a predetermined conclusion from the beginning. That's not objective, that is what makes you a disingenuous hack.
I'm really trying to not have to do your homework for you, but no one said income taxes except you. Once again, that is your chronic disinterest in educating yourself on the subject. Now if you have "read about it," how come you consistently come up with wildly inaccurate takes on the subject? My favorite is still how you can't fathom how fraud works, by the way.
what taxes were they cheating New York out of?dot wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:01 pm For the hack, prove Joe Biden committed a crime before you ask me about things you have not been able to prove he had anything to do with. It's been months, you still can't do it. Clock's ticking.
Is this more of your uninformed opinion showing? The state is doing the prosecuting because the Trumps were cheating on taxes in connection with this fraud scheme of theirs. I mean seriously, just do the slightest amount of homework instead of going with your gut instinct on the subject because your gut has shown you in the wrong every time on this situation. Do I need to remind you of the fraud debacle you got yourself into?Animal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:35 pm if these companies feel like they were cheated out of millions of dollars, it would be their attorneys in the courtroom doing the fact finding. not some wanna be celebrity judge. companies that are cheated out of millions of dollars don't sit around and wait on civil litigation that isn't out to recover money for them. Is the state of new york planning to donate this $250 million fine they are threatening Trump with back to the companies they think were damaged?
Go read for a bit, you might learn even at your advanced age.
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your troll level skills are about as effective as your debate skills.
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I will say the same about your interpretation of fraud and bribery skills.
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how about you explain what taxes the NY government is trying to collect from Trump? Dot seems to think that they think he owes $250 million in some kind of a tax because he over valued his balance sheet.
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Such a sad, old animal.
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gee , who could have seen that coming. you call someone out and then have nothing.