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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:13 pm
by CaptQuint
    In Northern Italy, 60 volunteers who thought they'd never suffered COVID-19 gave blood. 40 of them tested positive for antibodies to the virus.

    https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-p ... 1.38666481

    https://translate.google.com/translate? ... 1.38666481

    For people who don't read spaghetti

    Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

    Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:25 pm
    by Animal
    CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:13 pm
      In Northern Italy, 60 volunteers who thought they'd never suffered COVID-19 gave blood. 40 of them tested positive for antibodies to the virus.

      https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-p ... 1.38666481

      https://translate.google.com/translate? ... 1.38666481

      For people who don't read spaghetti
      that literally has to be the case in Italy. Their death toll can't be 10% of the infected population. I honestly believe that every country has the same percentage of deaths (statistically), so anyone showing anything over 1.5% has a very large population that had VERY minor symptoms.

      The plus is that there are a shit ton of people that could give plasma to treat very sick patients, PLUS a shit ton of people that can go back to work who are now immune.

      The minus is that the death rate from this epidemic is MUCH lower than all the fear mongers were telling us.

      Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

      Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:34 pm
      by Geist
      Flumper wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:25 pm
      CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:13 pm
        In Northern Italy, 60 volunteers who thought they'd never suffered COVID-19 gave blood. 40 of them tested positive for antibodies to the virus.

        https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-p ... 1.38666481

        https://translate.google.com/translate? ... 1.38666481

        For people who don't read spaghetti
        that literally has to be the case in Italy. Their death toll can't be 10% of the infected population. I honestly believe that every country has the same percentage of deaths (statistically), so anyone showing anything over 1.5% has a very large population that had VERY minor symptoms.

        The plus is that there are a shit ton of people that could give plasma to treat very sick patients, PLUS a shit ton of people that can go back to work who are now immune.

        The minus is that the death rate from this epidemic is MUCH lower than all the fear mongers were telling us.
        Immune, temporarily at least.

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:46 pm
        by Animal
        How in the fucking fuck did France go from 2,100 new cases on Thursday to 23,000 new cases on Friday? What in the ever loving fuck?

        this is why tracking data is so fucking futile when everyone makes up their own rules.

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:51 pm
        by Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty
        Flumper wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:46 pm How in the fucking fuck did France go from 2,100 new cases on Thursday to 23,000 new cases on Friday? What in the ever loving fuck?

        this is why tracking data is so fucking futile when everyone makes up their own rules.
        French coronavirus cases jump above China's after including nursing home tally
        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21L3BG

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:59 pm
        by Animal
        Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:51 pm
        Flumper wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:46 pm How in the fucking fuck did France go from 2,100 new cases on Thursday to 23,000 new cases on Friday? What in the ever loving fuck?

        this is why tracking data is so fucking futile when everyone makes up their own rules.
        French coronavirus cases jump above China's after including nursing home tally
        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21L3BG
        and did France somehow think that was not vital information for the world to know? What the fuck else are countries hiding about this virus?

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm
        by CaptQuint
        Ah, James Woods world renown nutjob

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:29 pm
        by CaptQuint
        Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:28 pm
        CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm Ah, James Woods world renown nutjob
        I cant blame you for not listening to her but she was talking about the federal government can never do too much during a crisis. 3 months ago she was bitching about Trump being a dictator.

        Think about it.
        What is the purpose of a Federal Government?

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:31 pm
        by B-Tender
        Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:28 pm
        CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm Ah, James Woods world renown nutjob
        I cant blame you for not listening to her but she was talking about the federal government can never do too much during a crisis. 3 months ago she was bitching about Trump being a dictator.

        Think about it.
        You don't think situations should determine when we have more, or less government? For instance, after 5 years of economic growth we should have been getting away from QE and ultra low interest rates?

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:33 pm
        by CaptQuint
        Why can't Trump direct Federal Aid to States that need it and not hamstring Congressional oversight at the same time? Is that too much to ask?

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:35 pm
        by CaptQuint
        Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:34 pm
        B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:31 pm
        Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:28 pm
        CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm Ah, James Woods world renown nutjob
        I cant blame you for not listening to her but she was talking about the federal government can never do too much during a crisis. 3 months ago she was bitching about Trump being a dictator.

        Think about it.
        You don't think situations should determine when we have more, or less government? For instance, after 5 years of economic growth we should have been getting away from QE and ultra low interest rates?
        The government does not control the Federal Reserve
        Does Trump know that?

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:40 pm
        by B-Tender
        Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:34 pm
        B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:31 pm
        Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:28 pm
        CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm Ah, James Woods world renown nutjob
        I cant blame you for not listening to her but she was talking about the federal government can never do too much during a crisis. 3 months ago she was bitching about Trump being a dictator.

        Think about it.
        You don't think situations should determine when we have more, or less government? For instance, after 5 years of economic growth we should have been getting away from QE and ultra low interest rates?
        The government does not control the Federal Reserve
        Answer the first question first please. Secondly, you don't think the President has influence on the Fed Reserve?

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 pm
        by Animal
        CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:29 pm

        What is the purpose of a Federal Government?
        roads and defense.

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 pm
        by CaptQuint
        Trump says he has the right to remove Powell as Fed chair but hasn’t ‘made any decisions’ yet

        https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/14/trump-s ... s-yet.html

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:44 pm
        by CaptQuint
        Flumper wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 pm
        CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:29 pm

        What is the purpose of a Federal Government?
        roads and defense.
        That's it huh?

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:44 pm
        by CaptQuint
        Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:44 pm Guys, we're veering into waters that are very political. We should request permission from RD to discuss government philosophy
        :lol:

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:45 pm
        by CaptQuint
        “I have never had a situation where a member of the [Obama] administration has tried in any way to pressure me for any reason about the stance of monetary policy,” Yellen said.

        https://www.marketwatch.com/story/yelle ... 2017-01-18

        Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

        Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:50 pm
        by FSchmertz
        Flumper wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:25 pm
        CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:13 pm
          In Northern Italy, 60 volunteers who thought they'd never suffered COVID-19 gave blood. 40 of them tested positive for antibodies to the virus.

          https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-p ... 1.38666481

          https://translate.google.com/translate? ... 1.38666481

          For people who don't read spaghetti
          that literally has to be the case in Italy. Their death toll can't be 10% of the infected population. I honestly believe that every country has the same percentage of deaths (statistically), so anyone showing anything over 1.5% has a very large population that had VERY minor symptoms.

          The plus is that there are a shit ton of people that could give plasma to treat very sick patients, PLUS a shit ton of people that can go back to work who are now immune.

          The minus is that the death rate from this epidemic is MUCH lower than all the fear mongers were telling us.
          We can't even make enough tests for people showing symptoms, it'll be a while before they're testing for antibodies. Though it sure would be useful, both for getting back to normal, and finding out more about this disease.

          Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

          Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:09 pm
          by megman
          Well it has arrived.

          A 90 yr old at the hospital, but hear he's recovering.

          Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

          Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:09 pm
          by B-Tender
          Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 pm
          B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:40 pm
          Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:34 pm
          B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:31 pm
          Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:28 pm
          CaptQuint wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm Ah, James Woods world renown nutjob
          I cant blame you for not listening to her but she was talking about the federal government can never do too much during a crisis. 3 months ago she was bitching about Trump being a dictator.

          Think about it.
          You don't think situations should determine when we have more, or less government? For instance, after 5 years of economic growth we should have been getting away from QE and ultra low interest rates?
          The government does not control the Federal Reserve
          Answer the first question first please. Secondly, you don't think the President has influence on the Fed Reserve?
          Of course rates shouldve been raised, And yeah, Im sure Obama and Trump pressured the chairman to not raise them
          The first question was, don't you think governments should let current situations determine how much they are involved? Secondly, don't worry about RD. He's weak right now, and won't be a threat unless he coughs at us.

          Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

          Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm
          by CaptQuint

          Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

          Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm
          by Animal
          megman wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:09 pm Well it has arrived.

          A 90 yr old at the hospital, but hear he's recovering.
          where?

          Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

          Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:13 pm
          by B-Tender
          Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:12 pm
          B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:09 pm
          Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:42 pm
          B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:40 pm
          Biker wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:34 pm
          B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:31 pm

          You don't think situations should determine when we have more, or less government? For instance, after 5 years of economic growth we should have been getting away from QE and ultra low interest rates?
          The government does not control the Federal Reserve
          Answer the first question first please. Secondly, you don't think the President has influence on the Fed Reserve?
          Of course rates shouldve been raised, And yeah, Im sure Obama and Trump pressured the chairman to not raise them
          The first question was, don't you think governments should let current situations determine how much they are involved? Secondly, don't worry about RD. He's weak right now, and won't be a threat unless he coughs at us.
          No, I think governments should be limited to what their binding documents state. If they deem a situation to be a national emergency, then declare martial law and be done with it
          If you give someone only one tool, and it's a hammer, everything will be beat to shit.

          Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

          Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:15 pm
          by Animal
          B-Tender wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:13 pm
          If you give someone only one tool, and it's a hammer, everything will be beat to shit.
          that's a nifty saying but not very accurate. I could do a lot of things with a hammer that didn't involve beating something to pieces.

          Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

          Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:16 pm
          by megman
          Flumper wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:10 pm
          megman wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:09 pm Well it has arrived.

          A 90 yr old at the hospital, but hear he's recovering.
          where?
          Haliburton, Ontario