Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:48 pm
how about $10k?Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:58 pm
BET!!
I use these guys https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... #countries
Good? Let the dying begin!
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:02 pm
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:30 pm
The day coronavirus became the number one cause of death among Americans, US president Donald Trump appeared to confuse the viral disease with a bacterial infection which could be treated with antibiotics.
In a meandering address to journalists on Friday which lasted over two hours and veered between incomprehensibility and flippancy, the president pondered the nature of the deadly virus, which he described as a “very brilliant enemy”, and a “genius”.
Despite the grave threat Covid-19 poses to the global economy, Mr Trump revealed the deficiency in his understanding of how the disease spreads and how it may be treated.
Asked by a journalist about the level of testing for the coronavirus across the US, the president answered: “This is a very brilliant enemy. You know, it’s a brilliant enemy. They develop drugs like the antibiotics. You see it. Antibiotics used to solve every problem. Now one of the biggest problems the world has is the germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can’t keep up with it.
"And they're constantly trying to come up with a new – people go to a hospital and they catch – they go for a heart operation – that's no problem, but they end up dying from – from problems. You know the problems I'm talking about. There's a whole genius to it."
He added: “We’re fighting – not only is it hidden, but it’s very smart. Okay? It’s invisible and it’s hidden, but it’s – it’s very smart.”
Though it is unclear whether Mr Trump was directly suggesting the disease may once have been treatable with antibiotics, the president’s allusions to antibiotic resistance are misguided. As the World Health Organisation states: “Antibiotics do not work against viruses, only bacteria.”
On its page titled “Myth Busters”, the organisation advises: “The new coronavirus (2019-nCoV) is a virus and, therefore, antibiotics should not be used as a means of prevention or treatment.
“However, if you are hospitalised for the 2019-nCoV, you may receive antibiotics because bacterial co-infection is possible.”
Philosopher and author AC Grayling tweeted: “Trump doesn’t know that antibiotics target bacteria not viruses. Covid-19 is a virus. Trump is an idiot. He is a dangerous idiot.”
Biologist and University of Hertfordshire and Anglia Ruskin University lecturer Dr Mark D’Arcy said: “Trump showing that despite being briefed every day about the pandemic for weeks now, he still doesn’t know the difference between a virus and bacteria!”
UCL lecturer and author Brian Klaas wrote: “As the US outbreak approaches 20,000 deaths, Trump appears to believe that the coronavirus is a bacterial pathogen. The coronavirus is – it may surprise you to find out – a virus.”
Walter Shaub, the former director of the US government’s Office for Ethics wrote on Twitter: “Trump says that this ‘germ’, meaning the virus, is especially ‘brilliant’ because it can’t be stopped by antibiotics, which work only on bacteria and not viruses. Now might be a good time to tell the people close to you that you love them.”
Concern over Mr Trump’s daily press briefings, which often last several hours, is building as support over his handling of the crisis is crumbling.
Though Mr Trump’s approval rating spiked as the first cases of coronavirus arrived in the US, his numbers have dwindled back to their pre-virus levels amid apparent concern over the government’s response to the pandemic.
American approval of the president on his handling of Covid-19 dropped six points from last week (48 per cent) to 42 per cent this week, according to an Ipsos/Reuters poll.
On Friday the US became the first country in the world to record more than 2,000 deaths from the disease in a single day.
More than half a million US citizens are now infected, and it is estimated America could soon surpass Italy to become the country with the greatest total number of coronavirus deaths worldwide.
On Friday, Mr Trump caused further confusion when asked how soon restrictions on the US could be lifted.
“I want to get it open as soon as we can. We have to get our country open,” Mr Trump replied.
Asked what “metrics” he would use to make that assessment, according to the official White House transcripts, Mr Trump responded: “The metrics right here. (Points to head.) That’s my metrics.”
He added: “That’s all I can do. I can listen to 35 people. At the end, I got to make a decision.
“And I didn’t think of it until yesterday. I said, ‘You know, this is a big decision.’ But I want to be guided. I’m going to be guided by them. I’m going to be guided by our Vice President. I’m going to make a decision based on a lot of different opinions. Some will maybe disagree, and some I’d love to see it where they don’t disagree.
“Will there be risks? There’s always going to be a risk that something can flare up. There’s always going to – look, look at what’s happening where countries are trying to get open and there’s a flare-up and they’ll go. But I’d like the flare-up to be very localised so that we can control it from a local standpoint without having to close.
“It’s – it’s – there’s always a risk. This is a – this is genius that we’re fighting. You know, we’re fighting this hidden enemy, which is genius. Okay? It’s genius, the way it’s attacked so many countries at so many different angles.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 60636.html
In a meandering address to journalists on Friday which lasted over two hours and veered between incomprehensibility and flippancy, the president pondered the nature of the deadly virus, which he described as a “very brilliant enemy”, and a “genius”.
Despite the grave threat Covid-19 poses to the global economy, Mr Trump revealed the deficiency in his understanding of how the disease spreads and how it may be treated.
Asked by a journalist about the level of testing for the coronavirus across the US, the president answered: “This is a very brilliant enemy. You know, it’s a brilliant enemy. They develop drugs like the antibiotics. You see it. Antibiotics used to solve every problem. Now one of the biggest problems the world has is the germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can’t keep up with it.
"And they're constantly trying to come up with a new – people go to a hospital and they catch – they go for a heart operation – that's no problem, but they end up dying from – from problems. You know the problems I'm talking about. There's a whole genius to it."
He added: “We’re fighting – not only is it hidden, but it’s very smart. Okay? It’s invisible and it’s hidden, but it’s – it’s very smart.”
Though it is unclear whether Mr Trump was directly suggesting the disease may once have been treatable with antibiotics, the president’s allusions to antibiotic resistance are misguided. As the World Health Organisation states: “Antibiotics do not work against viruses, only bacteria.”
On its page titled “Myth Busters”, the organisation advises: “The new coronavirus (2019-nCoV) is a virus and, therefore, antibiotics should not be used as a means of prevention or treatment.
“However, if you are hospitalised for the 2019-nCoV, you may receive antibiotics because bacterial co-infection is possible.”
Philosopher and author AC Grayling tweeted: “Trump doesn’t know that antibiotics target bacteria not viruses. Covid-19 is a virus. Trump is an idiot. He is a dangerous idiot.”
Biologist and University of Hertfordshire and Anglia Ruskin University lecturer Dr Mark D’Arcy said: “Trump showing that despite being briefed every day about the pandemic for weeks now, he still doesn’t know the difference between a virus and bacteria!”
UCL lecturer and author Brian Klaas wrote: “As the US outbreak approaches 20,000 deaths, Trump appears to believe that the coronavirus is a bacterial pathogen. The coronavirus is – it may surprise you to find out – a virus.”
Walter Shaub, the former director of the US government’s Office for Ethics wrote on Twitter: “Trump says that this ‘germ’, meaning the virus, is especially ‘brilliant’ because it can’t be stopped by antibiotics, which work only on bacteria and not viruses. Now might be a good time to tell the people close to you that you love them.”
Concern over Mr Trump’s daily press briefings, which often last several hours, is building as support over his handling of the crisis is crumbling.
Though Mr Trump’s approval rating spiked as the first cases of coronavirus arrived in the US, his numbers have dwindled back to their pre-virus levels amid apparent concern over the government’s response to the pandemic.
American approval of the president on his handling of Covid-19 dropped six points from last week (48 per cent) to 42 per cent this week, according to an Ipsos/Reuters poll.
On Friday the US became the first country in the world to record more than 2,000 deaths from the disease in a single day.
More than half a million US citizens are now infected, and it is estimated America could soon surpass Italy to become the country with the greatest total number of coronavirus deaths worldwide.
On Friday, Mr Trump caused further confusion when asked how soon restrictions on the US could be lifted.
“I want to get it open as soon as we can. We have to get our country open,” Mr Trump replied.
Asked what “metrics” he would use to make that assessment, according to the official White House transcripts, Mr Trump responded: “The metrics right here. (Points to head.) That’s my metrics.”
He added: “That’s all I can do. I can listen to 35 people. At the end, I got to make a decision.
“And I didn’t think of it until yesterday. I said, ‘You know, this is a big decision.’ But I want to be guided. I’m going to be guided by them. I’m going to be guided by our Vice President. I’m going to make a decision based on a lot of different opinions. Some will maybe disagree, and some I’d love to see it where they don’t disagree.
“Will there be risks? There’s always going to be a risk that something can flare up. There’s always going to – look, look at what’s happening where countries are trying to get open and there’s a flare-up and they’ll go. But I’d like the flare-up to be very localised so that we can control it from a local standpoint without having to close.
“It’s – it’s – there’s always a risk. This is a – this is genius that we’re fighting. You know, we’re fighting this hidden enemy, which is genius. Okay? It’s genius, the way it’s attacked so many countries at so many different angles.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 60636.html
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:31 pm
Why do you need $10K? Did you break a finger?Flumper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:02 pmhow about $10k?Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:58 pm
BET!!
I use these guys https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... #countries
Good? Let the dying begin!
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:36 pm
Mounting evidence. How many have recovered now?Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:34 pmDoctors, pols urge earlier use of ‘miracle’ coronavirus drug cocktail
For Charles Vavruska, it was nothing short of a miracle cure.
Days after the 53-year-old City Council staffer arrived at New York Presbyterian-Queens hospital barely able to breathe and tested positive for COVID-19, doctors started him on the controversial drug cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial, and azithromycin, an antibiotic.
Although Vavruska said he felt almost immediately better, he wishes the urgent-care doctor he went to see in the early days of his flu-like symptoms in mid-March could have prescribed a similar treatment before he grew progressively worse and ended up in a hospital room, hooked up to an oxygen tank and fighting for his life.
It’s an opinion shared by President Donald Trump and a growing cadre of physicians and some infectious diseases experts who believe that an effective way to control the spiraling pandemic is to prescribe the anti-malarial at the first sign of symptoms even though it has not gone through the requisite number of clinical trials.
Last week, the American Society of Thoracic Surgeons issued guidelines for doctors to use the anti-malarial if they are in the advanced stages of the coronavirus, but some physicians say that it needs to be administered long before that.
“In a pandemic, we need to be using presumptive diagnoses,” said Marvin Lerner, a retired Manhattan-based physician and infectious diseases expert.
A Rockland County physician said he recently successfully treated 350 patients showing early signs of the coronavirus using a combination of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc sulfate in his office. Dr. Vladimir “Zev” Zelenko said the $20 treatment had “100 percent” success in his Monsey practice in a video message he posted to President Trump two weeks ago.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:39 pm
Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:42 pm
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:44 pm
Handjobs?Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:43 pmCaptQuint wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:39 pm Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer
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"Democrat" Biker likes The NY Post
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:53 pm
It's great you are helping promote democracy in our beautiful country that contains New Jersey were George Washington spent so much time because George ROX. When my wife arrived here from El Salvador she made one hundred and fifty thousand dollars within a few hours of being in New Jersey. She is so beautiful and eats cum right out of my massive hog and is such a huge plus in this world. Think about it.Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:45 pmYoure veering into FSF territory. Dont get creepyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:44 pmHandjobs?Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:43 pmCaptQuint wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:39 pm Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer
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"Democrat" Biker likes The NY Post
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And Im a helluva lot more important Dem than you. I'll likely be helping our precinct captain
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:04 pm
You realize your position is that more people will have to die in the USA in the next 4.5 months than have died in the entire world so far, right?Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:58 pmBET!!Wut wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:18 amTo avoid arguments, whose number will be the next official number?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:44 amSilly me for actually quoting and going by what you actually typed.Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:19 amYeah. You dont get the reference.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:50 pmLook above, your quoted post literally says: "Trump will kill probably close to 2 million..."Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:07 pm
HMM...yeah...I meant infect close to 2 million. Prolly kill about 150K.
How does Trump cover his mistakes? Oh right...he just lies.
So fukk off. I NEVER said he would kill 2 million. Only the fake news said 2 million.
Wanna bet on 150K ?
You seem awfully confident and giddy about the high death rate. I am only happy the estimates continue to be revised downward. Yes, I will bet that 150k number.
I say there will be 150K dead by Sept. You taking the over?
What shall we bet?
1 month Avatar bet. 150k American deaths due to this Corona virus by September. You got over and I got under. Deal?
I use these guys https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... #countries
Good? Let the dying begin!
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:05 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:17 pm I'll have to admit. There will be one huge positive that will come out of this cluster fuck. After almost 3 1/2 years of President Trump urging American manufactures to bring their jobs home, that globalization making cheap products in China to save a few bucks entails major risks. I believe the lessons have just been learned. Learn or perish.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:06 pm
Call out to Cheezy.
Your governor is cray-cray. Banning sale of veggie seeds and starter plants?
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... rom-doing/
Your governor is cray-cray. Banning sale of veggie seeds and starter plants?
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... rom-doing/
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:07 pm
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:10 pm
a little disingenuous no?......she didn't ban veggie seeds. They are just sold in stores that are considered non-essential. grow upCharliesheen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:06 pm Call out to Cheezy.
Your governor is cray-cray. Banning sale of veggie seeds and starter plants?
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... rom-doing/
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:13 pm
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:14 pm
Oh yeah. Shes taking it hard core. Most people have been OK with her being one of the most aggressive in shutdowns etc because we were/are one of the hardest hit states. Its stuff like this though that is starting to really hurt her actions with even the most reasonable people.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:06 pm Call out to Cheezy.
Your governor is cray-cray. Banning sale of veggie seeds and starter plants?
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... rom-doing/
Liquor stores and lottery tickets? SURE!
Garden centers? NOPE!
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:17 pm
God forbid the nurserys and gun stores close 
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Cabela's is open here in Fort Worth. I thought all gun stores were closed. I haven't been in there since the shut down, so I don't know if they have the gun counter closed, but I wonder what it is they sell that is considered "essential"?
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:20 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:10 pma little disingenuous no?......she didn't ban veggie seeds. They are just sold in stores that are considered non-essential. grow upCharliesheen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:06 pm Call out to Cheezy.
Your governor is cray-cray. Banning sale of veggie seeds and starter plants?
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... rom-doing/
Hey moran. If farmers start dropping dead there will be mass starvation. A vegetable garden could save lives. You’d need to protect it with a weapon, iff’n things get real bad. And funny thing, libs here are blown away when they can’t buy a pistol the day they want, no, need one.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:21 pm
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:22 pm
in theory, yes. in practice the first trip you get the seeds. then you get home and realize you need a spade. After you go get the spade you realize that you are gonna need a bag of peat. back to home depot. then you get home and someone mentions you should put down a weed barrier. on the way home from getting that you hear that miracle grow has a new product that would be just perfect, so you turn around.
400 trips to the store later and you have a garden at home capable of growing 13 tomatoes.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:22 pm
FarmersCharliesheen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:20 pmStapes wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:10 pma little disingenuous no?......she didn't ban veggie seeds. They are just sold in stores that are considered non-essential. grow upCharliesheen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:06 pm Call out to Cheezy.
Your governor is cray-cray. Banning sale of veggie seeds and starter plants?
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... rom-doing/
Hey moran. If farmers start dropping dead there will be mass starvation. A vegetable garden could save lives. You’d need to protect it with a weapon, iff’n things get real bad. And funny thing, libs here are blown away when they can’t buy a pistol the day they want, no, need one.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:23 pm
Gun stores are open in CA and PA, I know that
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:24 pm
I can see this thing lasting longer and cutting deeper into distribution for months.