Anti vaxers making for an interesting ending to the pandemic

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necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:40 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:52 pm
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fortunately none of them are seriously sick, thanks to the vaccines, so its not a problem and the ship will continue on. imagine how bad that would have been if they hadn't been vaccinated.
As most of them are healthy young adults, statistically the same and probably better.
well, actually there are 3700 people on board that ship. so, if none of them had been vaccinated with the 100 came back with the virus, the would have probably had thousands of sick people. Then you are getting into the odds of several being really sick and maybe the odds of one dying.

do you really think you could put 100 infected people onto a boat on the ocean with 3600 other people and no one else get sick if they weren't all vaccinated?
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Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:49 pm
necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:40 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:52 pm
necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:20 pm
fortunately none of them are seriously sick, thanks to the vaccines, so its not a problem and the ship will continue on. imagine how bad that would have been if they hadn't been vaccinated.
As most of them are healthy young adults, statistically the same and probably better.
well, actually there are 3700 people on board that ship. so, if none of them had been vaccinated with the 100 came back with the virus, the would have probably had thousands of sick people. Then you are getting into the odds of several being really sick and maybe the odds of one dying.

do you really think you could put 100 infected people onto a boat on the ocean with 3600 other people and no one else get sick if they weren't all vaccinated?
Statistically, most would have been fine.
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necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:51 pm
Statistically, most would have been fine.
no one would argue with that.
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necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:51 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:49 pm
necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:40 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:52 pm
necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:20 pm
fortunately none of them are seriously sick, thanks to the vaccines, so its not a problem and the ship will continue on. imagine how bad that would have been if they hadn't been vaccinated.
As most of them are healthy young adults, statistically the same and probably better.
well, actually there are 3700 people on board that ship. so, if none of them had been vaccinated with the 100 came back with the virus, the would have probably had thousands of sick people. Then you are getting into the odds of several being really sick and maybe the odds of one dying.

do you really think you could put 100 infected people onto a boat on the ocean with 3600 other people and no one else get sick if they weren't all vaccinated?
Statistically, most would have been fine.
The USS Roosevelt lost one sailor during the 2020 covid outbreak before vaccinations were a thing. I couldn't find a for sure report if that death was from covid or just incident to the timeline.
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Let's say that you get 1 million 20 year old healthy men. And you put a bomb in 10 of their pockets randomly. No one knows who has a bomb in their pocket. All they know is that if they get a text from another 20 year old the bomb will go off if they happen to have one. Now they have a choice of 2 boats to get on. On one of the boats there are no rules against texting other people on the boat. On the other boat you are not allowed to text anyone else.

If you were one of those 1 million 20 year olds, which boat would you choose to get on?
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Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:07 pm Let's say that you get 1 million 20 year old healthy men. And you put a bomb in 10 of their pockets randomly. No one knows who has a bomb in their pocket. All they know is that if they get a text from another 20 year old the bomb will go off if they happen to have one. Now they have a choice of 2 boats to get on. On one of the boats there are no rules against texting other people on the boat. On the other boat you are not allowed to text anyone else.

If you were one of those 1 million 20 year olds, which boat would you choose to get on?
Different statistically. Not comparable
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necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:13 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:07 pm Let's say that you get 1 million 20 year old healthy men. And you put a bomb in 10 of their pockets randomly. No one knows who has a bomb in their pocket. All they know is that if they get a text from another 20 year old the bomb will go off if they happen to have one. Now they have a choice of 2 boats to get on. On one of the boats there are no rules against texting other people on the boat. On the other boat you are not allowed to text anyone else.

If you were one of those 1 million 20 year olds, which boat would you choose to get on?
Different statistically. Not comparable
Not all that much difference statistically. I think the chances of getting "really sick" are about 1 in 100,000 for a healthy 20 year old. So, that's how many people have a bomb in their pocket. Obviously the odds of getting a text are in no way related to coming into contact with a person with the virus, but both are entirely random enough to at least be understandable.

The point is that if you are one of the 1 in 100,000 that gets really sick, you don't know it until you get sick. Same with the bomb, you don't know you have a bomb in your pocket until it goes off.
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Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:04 pm
necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:13 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:07 pm Let's say that you get 1 million 20 year old healthy men. And you put a bomb in 10 of their pockets randomly. No one knows who has a bomb in their pocket. All they know is that if they get a text from another 20 year old the bomb will go off if they happen to have one. Now they have a choice of 2 boats to get on. On one of the boats there are no rules against texting other people on the boat. On the other boat you are not allowed to text anyone else.

If you were one of those 1 million 20 year olds, which boat would you choose to get on?
Different statistically. Not comparable
Not all that much difference statistically. I think the chances of getting "really sick" are about 1 in 100,000 for a healthy 20 year old. So, that's how many people have a bomb in their pocket. Obviously the odds of getting a text are in no way related to coming into contact with a person with the virus, but both are entirely random enough to at least be understandable.

The point is that if you are one of the 1 in 100,000 that gets really sick, you don't know it until you get sick. Same with the bomb, you don't know you have a bomb in your pocket until it goes off.
But a bomb going off will almost assuredly kill more than just the person it's attached to if they are near by. Statistically, contracting the virus will not be as deadly.
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necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:20 pm But a bomb going off will almost assuredly kill more than just the person it's attached to if they are near by. Statistically, contracting the virus will not be as deadly.
maybe analogies aren't your thing. These are special bombs that only kill the person who's pocket they are in. Jesus.

my question was posed to you as one of the 1 million people. Which boat do YOU get on. I didn't know you were concerned with how many other people might be killed if your bomb went off.
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Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:35 pm
necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:20 pm But a bomb going off will almost assuredly kill more than just the person it's attached to if they are near by. Statistically, contracting the virus will not be as deadly.
maybe analogies aren't your thing. These are special bombs that only kill the person who's pocket they are in. Jesus.

my question was posed to you as one of the 1 million people. Which boat do YOU get on. I didn't know you were concerned with how many other people might be killed if your bomb went off.
Well if it only kills that one person, then I wouldn't care which boat I got on. I'm great at analogies, which is how I know, this isn't comparable.
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Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:07 pm Let's say that you get 1 million 20 year old healthy men. And you put a bomb in 10 of their pockets randomly. No one knows who has a bomb in their pocket. All they know is that if they get a text from another 20 year old the bomb will go off if they happen to have one. Now they have a choice of 2 boats to get on. On one of the boats there are no rules against texting other people on the boat. On the other boat you are not allowed to text anyone else.

If you were one of those 1 million 20 year olds, which boat would you choose to get on?
If your duty is to get on the fucking boat and get on with it then you get on the fucking boat and get on with it. Such as I carry on with my life, un-vaxed, unmasked and unafraid. Come what may I accept it.
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Vaccine can still kill you...

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necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:04 am Vaccine can still kill you...

All vaccines have th potential for fatal results. Are your kids vaccinated?
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My kids all have their fda approved non experimental vaccines.
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I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
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Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:59 am I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
So do I, but she screws up all the time. She really sucks at her job.
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necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:59 am I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
So do I, but she screws up all the time. She really sucks at her job.
Probably the best Press Secretary thats been in the white house in decades.........you just don't get anything right do you?
I blame Biker.
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Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:05 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:59 am I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
So do I, but she screws up all the time. She really sucks at her job.
Probably the best Press Secretary thats been in the white house in decades.........you just don't get anything right do you?
You sir, are out of your fucking mind. She is a horrible, horrible press secretary. The only reason she stays put is because she's a good puppet and Biden is so brain riddled, he doesn't know better.
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necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:07 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:05 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:59 am I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
So do I, but she screws up all the time. She really sucks at her job.ucp.php?i=ucp_notifications
Probably the best Press Secretary thats been in the white house in decades.........you just don't get anything right do you?
You sir, are out of your fucking mind. She is a horrible, horrible press secretary. The only reason she stays put is because she's a good puppet and Biden is so brain riddled, he doesn't know better.
She makes Peter Douchey her bitch every time he asks stupid questions......she's the best.
I blame Biker.
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Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:12 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:07 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:05 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:59 am I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
So do I, but she screws up all the time. She really sucks at her job.ucp.php?i=ucp_notifications
Probably the best Press Secretary thats been in the white house in decades.........you just don't get anything right do you?
You sir, are out of your fucking mind. She is a horrible, horrible press secretary. The only reason she stays put is because she's a good puppet and Biden is so brain riddled, he doesn't know better.
She makes Peter Douchey her bitch every time he asks stupid questions......she's the best.
She makes herself her own bitch every time she speaks. She's a moron.
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necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:00 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:12 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:07 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:05 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:59 am I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
So do I, but she screws up all the time. She really sucks at her job.ucp.php?i=ucp_notifications
Probably the best Press Secretary thats been in the white house in decades.........you just don't get anything right do you?
You sir, are out of your fucking mind. She is a horrible, horrible press secretary. The only reason she stays put is because she's a good puppet and Biden is so brain riddled, he doesn't know better.
She makes Peter Douchey her bitch every time he asks stupid questions......she's the best.
She makes herself her own bitch every time she speaks. She's a moron.
Says the housewife who's life is so unimportant that he spends his day on a porn forum instead of being a man and going to work.
I blame Biker.
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Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:59 am I'm pretty sure she meant that even if your under 27 the "virus" could kill you. She doesn't screw up often.

and no I'm not defending her just because.......I think she just misspoke.
You literally believe that Trump told people to drink bleach lol.
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Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:11 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 4:00 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:12 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:07 am
Stapes wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:05 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:04 am

So do I, but she screws up all the time. She really sucks at her job.ucp.php?i=ucp_notifications
Probably the best Press Secretary thats been in the white house in decades.........you just don't get anything right do you?
You sir, are out of your fucking mind. She is a horrible, horrible press secretary. The only reason she stays put is because she's a good puppet and Biden is so brain riddled, he doesn't know better.
She makes Peter Douchey her bitch every time he asks stupid questions......she's the best.
She makes herself her own bitch every time she speaks. She's a moron.
Says the housewife who's life is so unimportant that he spends his day on a porn forum instead of being a man and going to work.
Says the fat myopic idiot, who is a misogynist and equates working with manhood, because he's a moron. And also doesn't realize how much work I do at home. Plus I still get laid by a hot wife while your hands are so callused from masturbation they are like a ribbed condom.
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necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:41 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:35 pm
necronomous wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:20 pm But a bomb going off will almost assuredly kill more than just the person it's attached to if they are near by. Statistically, contracting the virus will not be as deadly.
maybe analogies aren't your thing. These are special bombs that only kill the person who's pocket they are in. Jesus.

my question was posed to you as one of the 1 million people. Which boat do YOU get on. I didn't know you were concerned with how many other people might be killed if your bomb went off.
Well if it only kills that one person, then I wouldn't care which boat I got on. I'm great at analogies, which is how I know, this isn't comparable.
so, in the analogy, you would get on the boat that increases your odds of being blown up. at least its an answer. I hope you can understand how a lot of people might find it an odd answer.
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