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Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:18 pm
by WestTexasCrude
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
some smart guy will come around and solve the problem of drilling costs to make the ground heat pump idea cost effective.
You rang?
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
by Reservoir Dog
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
by spudoc
DiverTexas wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:15 pm
spudoc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:10 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:38 pmGeothermal
People call it geothermal but it isn't accurate. A more accurate term is ground source heat pump.
It is correct. Ground source only refers to the heat being rejected into the ground. Geothermal can also utilize water to accomplish it as well. Lakes and rivers are often used as the condenser.
Geothermal implies using the heat that is created by the earth. This system is better described as indirect solar
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
by CaptQuint
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
I have a fireplace but no furnace
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
by Wut
WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:18 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
some smart guy will come around and solve the problem of drilling costs to make the ground heat pump idea cost effective.
You rang?
You funny guy.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:24 pm
by Animal
I remember a furnace on I Love Lucy in the basement of the building. when Lucy's walk in freezer crapped out she hid a side of beef in it and then Fred lit the furnace. That is pretty much the extent of my knowledge of furnaces.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:25 pm
by Wut
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
I have a fireplace but no furnace
The heat pump will keep your place warm in winter?
How efficient is using them compared to a furnace?
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:26 pm
by Reservoir Dog
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
I have a fireplace but no furnace
What am I missing here? You said the house was built in 1988. Was one fireplace heating that entire house before you installed heat pumps?
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:28 pm
by Animal
Wut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:25 pm
The heat pump will keep your place warm in winter?
How efficient is using them compared to a furnace?
I would bet that there is a limit to the Parallel that a heat pump would be a viable option as you move north. The concept of a heat pump will always be able to warm something, but the colder it is outside, i would imagine the more futile that process becomes.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:29 pm
by DiverTexas
spudoc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
DiverTexas wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:15 pm
spudoc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:10 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:38 pmGeothermal
People call it geothermal but it isn't accurate. A more accurate term is ground source heat pump.
It is correct. Ground source only refers to the heat being rejected into the ground. Geothermal can also utilize water to accomplish it as well. Lakes and rivers are often used as the condenser.
Geothermal implies using the heat that is created by the earth. This system is better described as indirect solar
I will grant you that it is a very generic term.
This discussion reminds me of the last Geothermal class I took.
It was in Waco and every morning I was having breakfast with ATF, FBI, DPS agents and Waco PD.
Didn't really know what was happening and they were not talking.
Finished the class a few days later and got home in time to see the raid on the David Koresh compound.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:33 pm
by CaptQuint
Wut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:25 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
I have a fireplace but no furnace
The heat pump will keep your place warm in winter?
How efficient is using them compared to a furnace?
This place has good insulation, it will be freakin toasty all winter long. The heat pumps will be way more efficient than burning oil or gas. They should pay for themselves in 2 or 3 winters.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
by CaptQuint
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:26 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
I have a fireplace but no furnace
What am I missing here? You said the house was built in 1988. Was one fireplace heating that entire house before you installed heat pumps?
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
by Reservoir Dog
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:26 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
I have a fireplace but no furnace
What am I missing here? You said the house was built in 1988. Was one fireplace heating that entire house before you installed heat pumps?
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
Okay. Now it makes more sense.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
by CaptQuint
My units will make heat till -15 degrees Fahrenheit
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
by Animal
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
so the fireplace is more for ambiance in one room, right? and now you can shit can the baseboard heaters?
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:37 pm
by Reservoir Dog
WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:18 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
some smart guy will come around and solve the problem of drilling costs to make the ground heat pump idea cost effective.
You rang?
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 pm
by CaptQuint
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
so the fireplace is more for ambiance in one room, right? and now you can shit can the baseboard heaters?
The fireplace is for looks, in fact I'm not sure it was used more than a few times. With heat pumps you always keep a back up source of heat. The baseboard stays and will still be used in the bathrooms and the basement. I will be upgrading to digital thermostats.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:46 pm
by B-Tender
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
so the fireplace is more for ambiance in one room, right? and now you can shit can the baseboard heaters?
The fireplace is for looks, in fact I'm not sure it was used more than a few times. With heat pumps you always keep a back up source of heat. The baseboard stays and will still be used in the bathrooms and the basement. I will be upgrading to digital thermostats.
Are you a candidate for solar?
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:49 pm
by Animal
B-Tender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:46 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
so the fireplace is more for ambiance in one room, right? and now you can shit can the baseboard heaters?
The fireplace is for looks, in fact I'm not sure it was used more than a few times. With heat pumps you always keep a back up source of heat. The baseboard stays and will still be used in the bathrooms and the basement. I will be upgrading to digital thermostats.
Are you a candidate for solar?
not until he gets a chain saw.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:56 pm
by CaptQuint
B-Tender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:46 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
so the fireplace is more for ambiance in one room, right? and now you can shit can the baseboard heaters?
The fireplace is for looks, in fact I'm not sure it was used more than a few times. With heat pumps you always keep a back up source of heat. The baseboard stays and will still be used in the bathrooms and the basement. I will be upgrading to digital thermostats.
Are you a candidate for solar?
I could, but I don't think the investment is worth it and I don't want them on the roof.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 pm
by B-Tender
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:49 pm
B-Tender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:46 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
so the fireplace is more for ambiance in one room, right? and now you can shit can the baseboard heaters?
The fireplace is for looks, in fact I'm not sure it was used more than a few times. With heat pumps you always keep a back up source of heat. The baseboard stays and will still be used in the bathrooms and the basement. I will be upgrading to digital thermostats.
Are you a candidate for solar?
not until he gets a chain saw.
Right, kinda what I was thinking. That type of heating and cooling seems a perfect match.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:59 pm
by CaptQuint
B-Tender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:57 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:49 pm
B-Tender wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:46 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
so the fireplace is more for ambiance in one room, right? and now you can shit can the baseboard heaters?
The fireplace is for looks, in fact I'm not sure it was used more than a few times. With heat pumps you always keep a back up source of heat. The baseboard stays and will still be used in the bathrooms and the basement. I will be upgrading to digital thermostats.
Are you a candidate for solar?
not until he gets a chain saw.
Right, kinda what I was thinking. That type of heating and cooling seems a perfect match.
I installed three systems this week, if you include mine.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:48 pm
by Zerobeat
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:15 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:22 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:56 am
There is an half acre empty lot next to it that I'm going to try to purchase
Do that as quickly as you can. You will never regret it.
I just dropped 8 grand on heat pumps and $300 today at Home Depot. I gotta see what's left.
Line-hide looks nice. Are you going to paint it to match the siding, or leave it as contrast? You might have said already, but what brand heat pump did you go with?
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:51 pm
by Antknot
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:26 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:33 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 pm
What the fuck is a heat pump?
Is that what you silly Americans call a furnace?
its basically an air conditioner that runs both directions. in the summer it takes the heat from the house and pushes it outside to cool the house. in the winter it takes heat from outside and moves it inside. Thermodynamically speaking, its the most efficient way to heat and cool.
The only one that I have heard that sounds better is running a coil deep in the ground to heat/cool the fluid inside using the earth, and then using that to assist in heating/cooling the house. I forget the name they call that.
Why does the house have a chimney? There must be a furnace in the basement.
I have a fireplace but no furnace
What am I missing here? You said the house was built in 1988. Was one fireplace heating that entire house before you installed heat pumps?
The house has electric baseboard heaters in every room. They are expensive to use.
There has never been a truer statement posted on any forum ever.
Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:56 pm
by Charliesheen
Ex gf’s condo built with nothing but those. Lectricity was 20 cents Kwhr. Vaulted ceiling with crap insulation. Single pane windows. Feeding pellets into the stove was a pain in the ass, but it was cheaper.