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CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

1) Trump said he'd release them. Didn't. Lied. Again. Like he's done so often. Taint lickers don't care that he's a liar. They'll vote for a bald-faced liar. Again.

2) Everyone else who has been President released them.

3) What is he hiding? And why don't the taint lickers care?

P.S. Righties used to parrot "If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about." Funny how that's now gone away.

P.P.S. Wanna bet that "nothing to worry" "what's he hiding" stuff suddenly reappears when the other party is in charge?

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.

I've no problem with that.

Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:57 pm

Antknot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:45 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:14 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:10 pm I mean, even is slightly intelligent taint lickers should be getting the hint that he's hiding something(s).

My guess is he's nowhere near as rich as he claims, and the only charity he gives to is "Chump Inc."

He's hiding fraud, overvaluing his properties for loans from overseas banks. Undervaluing them for taxes and insurance. Multiple sets of books etc. My guess his tax records could suss out many different crimes and a few embarrassing facts as well.

Do y’all really think Trumps taxes weren’t audited? You’ve got a better chance of death from the awuhan flu than Trump not getting audited.

The IRS doesn't target the big fish due to the litigation involved. The IRS waved the surrender flag to The Church of Scientology. I never said Trump was never audited, you did. IRS gets most of their penalty fees from the middle class. If Trumps tax records are on the up and up why is he fighting to the highest court of the land with ridiculous arguments? Why didn't he release them when Obama's long form birth certificate was released like Trump promised? Do you believe Trump is an honest businessman?

Why? They are private. Not caving to irrational people.

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pm

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.

I've no problem with that.

Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.

Fuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.

Trump’s taxes are probably extremely complex. Like most REITs, he probably has every property setup in one or more separate legal entities. His non-real estate ventures are probably setup up in separate entities as well. His and Melania’s personal returns probably have very little, if any, information on his various holdings. The tax records for properties located outside of NY should be off the table because the Grand Jury and prosecutors do not have jurisdiction.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:24 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:07 pm About 75,000 people work for the IRS. Let's say half lean Democrat. Let's say half of that are hard core Trump haters. That's about 16,000 people that, after all of these years with access to his returns, haven't leaked anything. And you know they would.

It's cute you think 75,000 people have access to his records. That shit is in a safe with almost zero access.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... -in-a-safe

Huh. Thanks for that. Learn something new everyday. I wonder if the IRS keeps all of the bigshots folders in a special area? Like, do Jeff Bezos and Bll Gates and folks like that have their own dedicated group going through their returns? I imagine billionaires tax returns are like fucking novels. I suppose they just feed the info into a computer to "search" for red flags. Still, Trumps been filing taxes for 50 years now and we haven't heard anything about any of them. More than a few people have seen his returns at one time or another.

Where are all those MEMES the title promises?

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one said the press should have it.

Antknot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:29 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:57 pm

Antknot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:45 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:14 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:10 pm I mean, even is slightly intelligent taint lickers should be getting the hint that he's hiding something(s).

My guess is he's nowhere near as rich as he claims, and the only charity he gives to is "Chump Inc."

He's hiding fraud, overvaluing his properties for loans from overseas banks. Undervaluing them for taxes and insurance. Multiple sets of books etc. My guess his tax records could suss out many different crimes and a few embarrassing facts as well.

Do y’all really think Trumps taxes weren’t audited? You’ve got a better chance of death from the awuhan flu than Trump not getting audited.

The IRS doesn't target the big fish due to the litigation involved. The IRS waved the surrender flag to The Church of Scientology. I never said Trump was never audited, you did. IRS gets most of their penalty fees from the middle class. If Trumps tax records are on the up and up why is he fighting to the highest court of the land with ridiculous arguments? Why didn't he release them when Obama's long form birth certificate was released like Trump promised? Do you believe Trump is an honest businessman?

Why? They are private. Not caving to irrational people.

Again, wrong. They belong to the government for government use.

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:52 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pm

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.

I've no problem with that.

Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.

Fuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.

Trump’s taxes are probably extremely complex. Like most REITs, he probably has every property setup in one or more separate legal entities. His non-real estate ventures are probably setup up in separate entities as well. His and Melania’s personal returns probably have very little, if any, information on his various holdings. The tax records for properties located outside of NY should be off the table because the Grand Jury and prosecutors do not have jurisdiction.

There is a Trump supporter for you. The law says they can be looked at. Congress says they can be looked at, and The Supreme Court of The United States of America says they can be looked at. And you say fuck the law, doesn't apply to my orange daddy.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:50 pm

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:52 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pm

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.

Are tax returns public info?

Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.

I've no problem with that.

Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.

Fuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.

Trump’s taxes are probably extremely complex. Like most REITs, he probably has every property setup in one or more separate legal entities. His non-real estate ventures are probably setup up in separate entities as well. His and Melania’s personal returns probably have very little, if any, information on his various holdings. The tax records for properties located outside of NY should be off the table because the Grand Jury and prosecutors do not have jurisdiction.

There is a Trump supporter for you. The law says they can be looked at. Congress says they can be looked at, and The Supreme Court of The United States of America says they can be looked at. And you say fuck the law, doesn't apply to my orange daddy.

I may be mistaken but are you the one that dodged taxes for years.

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:55 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:50 pm

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:52 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pm

Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm

SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.

Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.

I've no problem with that.

Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.

Fuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.

Trump’s taxes are probably extremely complex. Like most REITs, he probably has every property setup in one or more separate legal entities. His non-real estate ventures are probably setup up in separate entities as well. His and Melania’s personal returns probably have very little, if any, information on his various holdings. The tax records for properties located outside of NY should be off the table because the Grand Jury and prosecutors do not have jurisdiction.

There is a Trump supporter for you. The law says they can be looked at. Congress says they can be looked at, and The Supreme Court of The United States of America says they can be looked at. And you say fuck the law, doesn't apply to my orange daddy.

I may be mistaken but are you the one that dodged taxes for years.

Who cares? According to you I can run and be elected President. It's my private information right?





(Oh, and nice dodge)

Stapes wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:25 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:53 am

Your party prefers actual Communism. Congrats?

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:21 am

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:53 am

Your party prefers actual Communism. Congrats?

Your party doesn't know the meaning of the word, congrats???

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:21 am

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:53 am

Your party prefers actual Communism. Congrats?

Which party's leader is playing actual footsie with actual communists/real enemies of the U.S.?

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:31 am

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:21 am

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:53 am

Your party prefers actual Communism. Congrats?

Your party doesn't know the meaning of the word, congrats???

At least they know they don't want it. Your party has folks who actively endorse it.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:53 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:31 am

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:21 am

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:53 am

Your party prefers actual Communism. Congrats?

Your party doesn't know the meaning of the word, congrats???

At least they know they don't want it. Your party has folks who actively endorse it.

Try some broccoli, no I don't know what it is. Party of 5 year olds

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:24 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:53 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:31 am

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:21 am

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:53 am

Your party prefers actual Communism. Congrats?

Your party doesn't know the meaning of the word, congrats???

At least they know they don't want it. Your party has folks who actively endorse it.

Try some broccoli, no I don't know what it is. Party of 5 year olds

You're right. They should embrace communism like your party does.