Re: Political meme thread for both sides of the spectrum.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:26 pm

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It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.
SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pmIt really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.
Are tax returns public info?
Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.
Tax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pmSCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pmIt really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.
Are tax returns public info?
Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.
I've no problem with that.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pmTax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pmSCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pmIt really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.
Are tax returns public info?
Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.
Why? They are private. Not caving to irrational people.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:57 pmThe IRS doesn't target the big fish due to the litigation involved. The IRS waved the surrender flag to The Church of Scientology. I never said Trump was never audited, you did. IRS gets most of their penalty fees from the middle class. If Trumps tax records are on the up and up why is he fighting to the highest court of the land with ridiculous arguments? Why didn't he release them when Obama's long form birth certificate was released like Trump promised? Do you believe Trump is an honest businessman?Antknot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:45 pmDo y’all really think Trumps taxes weren’t audited? You’ve got a better chance of death from the awuhan flu than Trump not getting audited.
Fuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pmI've no problem with that.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pmTax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pmSCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pmIt really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.
Are tax returns public info?
Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.
Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.
Huh. Thanks for that. Learn something new everyday. I wonder if the IRS keeps all of the bigshots folders in a special area? Like, do Jeff Bezos and Bll Gates and folks like that have their own dedicated group going through their returns? I imagine billionaires tax returns are like fucking novels. I suppose they just feed the info into a computer to "search" for red flags. Still, Trumps been filing taxes for 50 years now and we haven't heard anything about any of them. More than a few people have seen his returns at one time or another.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:24 pmIt's cute you think 75,000 people have access to his records. That shit is in a safe with almost zero access.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... -in-a-safe
SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one said the press should have it.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pmTax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pmSCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pmIt really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.
Are tax returns public info?
Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.
Again, wrong. They belong to the government for government use.Antknot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:29 pmWhy? They are private. Not caving to irrational people.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:57 pmThe IRS doesn't target the big fish due to the litigation involved. The IRS waved the surrender flag to The Church of Scientology. I never said Trump was never audited, you did. IRS gets most of their penalty fees from the middle class. If Trumps tax records are on the up and up why is he fighting to the highest court of the land with ridiculous arguments? Why didn't he release them when Obama's long form birth certificate was released like Trump promised? Do you believe Trump is an honest businessman?Antknot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:45 pmDo y’all really think Trumps taxes weren’t audited? You’ve got a better chance of death from the awuhan flu than Trump not getting audited.
There is a Trump supporter for you. The law says they can be looked at. Congress says they can be looked at, and The Supreme Court of The United States of America says they can be looked at. And you say fuck the law, doesn't apply to my orange daddy.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:52 pmFuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pmI've no problem with that.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pmTax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pmSCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pmIt really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:22 pm You are 100% wrong, like completely wrong. Tax documents are not private property, they belong to the government record. The president is not even actually a party to either subpoena. A District Attorney with a valid legal subpoena and The House of Representatives have an absolute right to view this information. And SCOTUS agrees. The president has absolutely zero business being party to the proceedings. He was not asked for anything.
Are tax returns public info?
Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.
Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.
Trump’s taxes are probably extremely complex. Like most REITs, he probably has every property setup in one or more separate legal entities. His non-real estate ventures are probably setup up in separate entities as well. His and Melania’s personal returns probably have very little, if any, information on his various holdings. The tax records for properties located outside of NY should be off the table because the Grand Jury and prosecutors do not have jurisdiction.
I may be mistaken but are you the one that dodged taxes for years.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:50 pmThere is a Trump supporter for you. The law says they can be looked at. Congress says they can be looked at, and The Supreme Court of The United States of America says they can be looked at. And you say fuck the law, doesn't apply to my orange daddy.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:52 pmFuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pmI've no problem with that.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pmTax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pmSCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm
It really doesn't matter how many times you say it. Facts are facts.
Are tax returns public info?
Are Tax Forms Public Record? No, tax forms are not public record. They are private information. Tax forms contain confidential information and are not meant to be shared.
Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.
Trump’s taxes are probably extremely complex. Like most REITs, he probably has every property setup in one or more separate legal entities. His non-real estate ventures are probably setup up in separate entities as well. His and Melania’s personal returns probably have very little, if any, information on his various holdings. The tax records for properties located outside of NY should be off the table because the Grand Jury and prosecutors do not have jurisdiction.![]()
Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:55 pmI may be mistaken but are you the one that dodged taxes for years.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:50 pmThere is a Trump supporter for you. The law says they can be looked at. Congress says they can be looked at, and The Supreme Court of The United States of America says they can be looked at. And you say fuck the law, doesn't apply to my orange daddy.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:52 pmFuck Congress. I hope that they never get them.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:27 pmI've no problem with that.Whackov wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:06 pmTax records contain private information whether it is mine, yours or Trump’s. I think that the information should be submitted under seal until both parties have had a chance to review the information and have closed hearings on the admissibility of the evidence. The judge should rule on admissibility and what private information can be redacted. I do not think that the media should have access to the information until it is ruled on.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:34 pm
SCREEEEEECH, (sound of goal posts moving) No one claimed they are public record. Tax information is property of the federal government. If tax records were private no one would ever get charged with tax evasion or fraud. John Gotti would have never seen the inside of a cell if prosecutors were told his tax information was private.
Though I wonder if it's possible to really do that in congress and prevent leaks. With a NY grand jury it's possible though.
Trump’s taxes are probably extremely complex. Like most REITs, he probably has every property setup in one or more separate legal entities. His non-real estate ventures are probably setup up in separate entities as well. His and Melania’s personal returns probably have very little, if any, information on his various holdings. The tax records for properties located outside of NY should be off the table because the Grand Jury and prosecutors do not have jurisdiction.![]()
At least they know they don't want it. Your party has folks who actively endorse it.
You're right. They should embrace communism like your party does.