Well no one is asking for Judge Judy or magic wands but youWestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:04 amNo, they were doing individual rescues at houses all over NO. I'm talking the several thousands that took refuge for days on an elevated freeway. I'll admit seeing them up there for days was brutal. But the press acted like they were being ignored when in fact they were being supplied by helicopter daily. I think that's Flumper's point. Something that major, No govt on Earth is waving a magic wand and making everything better.
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My point is when you just went through a major disaster like a cat 5 hurricane or an f5 tornado, the fed govt is the last thing you need to be pinning your hope on. They will step in later for disaster relief.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:08 amWell no one is asking for Judge Judy or magic wands but youWestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:04 amNo, they were doing individual rescues at houses all over NO. I'm talking the several thousands that took refuge for days on an elevated freeway. I'll admit seeing them up there for days was brutal. But the press acted like they were being ignored when in fact they were being supplied by helicopter daily. I think that's Flumper's point. Something that major, No govt on Earth is waving a magic wand and making everything better.
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If the oilfields explode you just keep your eyes to skies for SupermanWestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:19 amMy point is when you just went through a major disaster like a cat 5 hurricane or an f5 tornado, the fed govt is the last thing you need to be pinning your hope on. They will step in later for disaster relief.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:08 amWell no one is asking for Judge Judy or magic wands but youWestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:04 amNo, they were doing individual rescues at houses all over NO. I'm talking the several thousands that took refuge for days on an elevated freeway. I'll admit seeing them up there for days was brutal. But the press acted like they were being ignored when in fact they were being supplied by helicopter daily. I think that's Flumper's point. Something that major, No govt on Earth is waving a magic wand and making everything better.
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So the government sucks.WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:38 amI totally agree with your view point about the govt. but that's not what flumper was talking about. I remember vividly during Hurricane Katrina seeing those thousands stranded on the elevated freeway for days above the flood waters waving signs as the passing helicopters passed by saying "where is our government?" Like there is some magical force that can take a major natural disaster affecting millions and put you back in your house so you don't miss that day's "Judge Judy's" broadcast.necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:11 amIt's never the point, but it always is.WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:36 pmI'm thinking that was not his point.necronomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:28 pmYep. Government sucksFlumper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:52 pm I don't know which party started it, but they both do it equally. If there is a hurricane during George Bush's presidency, then after the initial heartfelt concern for the victims, it always turns into a back and forth about what he could have done better, who he fired, if he was golfing, how many days before he got there, etc. Same with Obama and anything that happened. Same with trump. It has nothing to do with Coronavirus or hurricanes or tornadoes or earthquakes. It has to do with petty douche bags with nothing more to do than get on their social media soap boxes and talk shit.
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Of course. I've said that forever. Whether it's the fed's running a $20 trillion deficit down to my little town. Don't trust the government for shit.necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:51 amSo the government sucks.WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:38 amI totally agree with your view point about the govt. but that's not what flumper was talking about. I remember vividly during Hurricane Katrina seeing those thousands stranded on the elevated freeway for days above the flood waters waving signs as the passing helicopters passed by saying "where is our government?" Like there is some magical force that can take a major natural disaster affecting millions and put you back in your house so you don't miss that day's "Judge Judy's" broadcast.necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:11 amIt's never the point, but it always is.WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:36 pmI'm thinking that was not his point.necronomous wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:28 pmYep. Government sucksFlumper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:52 pm I don't know which party started it, but they both do it equally. If there is a hurricane during George Bush's presidency, then after the initial heartfelt concern for the victims, it always turns into a back and forth about what he could have done better, who he fired, if he was golfing, how many days before he got there, etc. Same with Obama and anything that happened. Same with trump. It has nothing to do with Coronavirus or hurricanes or tornadoes or earthquakes. It has to do with petty douche bags with nothing more to do than get on their social media soap boxes and talk shit.
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Ah...the he didn't mean what he said excuse. Lets face it.....he is a dumb motherfucker who can't properly talk about any subject. He insists on downplaying this like its nothing....just a mild cold....go about your business, go to work......no big dealnecronomous wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:26 pmThat's not what he said. That's a completely wrong. You know it, we know it. Jesus fucking Christ on a cracker I hope this isn't the way you interpret all the things he said.
Except it is more infectious than the flu.....the mortality rate is 20 times higher than the flu......he is a stupid fuck and so are you.
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Influenza mortality rate 0.1%
Corona virus. 2.0%
That is 20 times more deadly
Fuck me you people need to start reading.
Corona virus. 2.0%
That is 20 times more deadly
Fuck me you people need to start reading.
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BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:47 pmRead this. Stop being hysterical.
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/co ... think.html
The numbers are what the numbers are. If it changes next week that's dandy. But right now the mortality rate is 20 times or more higher than influenza and it is more infectious. Maybe millions haven't gotten it yet.....Maybe they never will...….but these are the facts
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Still, even at 2% (& I've heard other estimates as high as 3.5%) I'm not going to panic. I never caught the flu or even a chest cold even though I never got the shot so my lungs are pretty good. Now if I was very old or had some type of pre-existing condition I might be taking some extra precautions & worrying more.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:53 pmBigRedRetard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:47 pmRead this. Stop being hysterical.
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/co ... think.html
The numbers are what the numbers are. If it changes next week that's dandy. But right now the mortality rate is 20 times or more higher than influenza and it is more infectious. Maybe millions haven't gotten it yet.....Maybe they never will...….but these are the facts
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It's actually hard to calculate, because you don't know how many actually are "getting it." It's likely that a lot of people aren't going to doctors, much less hospitals.
But I'd guess that's true for the flu, so there might be a way of comparing the two.
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I'm neither old or panicking......lol I am discussing the reality of what the virus is and that it shouldn't be blown off by the resident in the white house as just getting the flu. You go to work with Coronavirus you might just be the cause of someone contracting it and dying or a family member. That asshole should be talking about being vigilant and not poopooing it.
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What's really important is that the stock market keeps going up so fat orange bastard can use it to get elected. Fuck the old and sick.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:11 pm I'm neither old or panicking......lol I am discussing the reality of what the virus is and that it shouldn't be blown off by the resident in the white house as just getting the flu. You go to work with Coronavirus you might just be the cause of someone contracting it and dying or a family member. That asshole should be talking about being vigilant and not poopooing it.
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I'd assume they took into account that boat cruise people also tend to be older. Which would make them more vulnerable?Biker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:17 pmNot really. The cruise ship in Japan is the perfect petri dish, no?
But the most straightforward and compelling evidence that the true case fatality rate of SARS-CoV-2 is well under 1 percent comes not from statistical trends and methodological massage, but from data from the Diamond Princess cruise outbreak and subsequent quarantine off the coast of Japan.
A quarantined boat is an ideal—if unfortunate—natural laboratory to study a virus. Many variables normally impossible to control are controlled. We know that all but one patient boarded the boat without the virus. We know that the other passengers were healthy enough to travel. We know their whereabouts and exposures. While the numbers coming out of China are scary, we don’t know how many of those patients were already ill for other reasons. How many were already hospitalized for another life-threatening illness and then caught the virus? How many were completely healthy, caught the virus, and developed a critical illness? In the real world, we just don’t know.
P.S. It'd also be interesting to find out what percentage needed hospitalization before recovery?
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Here's a hint. Stapes isn't petrified of the coronavirus. He's one of those people playing with the statistics and rewording comments, etc to make it look bad for politics. It isn't a health concern at all that he has. Its just a political angle to play. I know everyone sees it, but for some reason people feel a need to feed into it. Its frankly just stupid.
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Mayor Bill de Blasio is asking all New Yorkers - if you've returned from 1 of 5 countries, we're asking you to isolate yourself for 14 days as a precaution: China, Iran, Italy, South Korea and Japan
The WHO says the worldwide death rate is actually 3.4%, not 2%. I would imagine there is significant bias in that for instance how many 30 year olds go to the doctor to be tested when they get the flu?
The WHO says the worldwide death rate is actually 3.4%, not 2%. I would imagine there is significant bias in that for instance how many 30 year olds go to the doctor to be tested when they get the flu?
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I don't need to reword the idiot in chief to make him look bad. He does that every day when he opens his mouth...but good tryFlumper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:47 pm Here's a hint. Stapes isn't petrified of the coronavirus. He's one of those people playing with the statistics and rewording comments, etc to make it look bad for politics. It isn't a health concern at all that he has. Its just a political angle to play. I know everyone sees it, but for some reason people feel a need to feed into it. Its frankly just stupid.
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is there a difference when you say "its okay to go to work with coronovirus (somewhere in the world)" versus when you say "its okay to go to work with coronovirus (if you are currently infected with it)"?Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:53 pmI don't need to reword the idiot in chief to make him look bad. He does that every day when he opens his mouth...but good tryFlumper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:47 pm Here's a hint. Stapes isn't petrified of the coronavirus. He's one of those people playing with the statistics and rewording comments, etc to make it look bad for politics. It isn't a health concern at all that he has. Its just a political angle to play. I know everyone sees it, but for some reason people feel a need to feed into it. Its frankly just stupid.
please tell me you are smart enough to know the difference.
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Please tell me you understand when the President of the United States says he thinks the World Health Organizations number of 3.4% mortality rate is FALSE and he has a "hunch" its under 1% and that people are getting mild cases and going to work and getting better isn't FUCKING IRRESPONSIBLE!!!Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:55 pmis there a difference when you say "its okay to go to work with coronovirus (somewhere in the world)" versus when you say "its okay to go to work with coronovirus (if you are currently infected with it)"?Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:53 pmI don't need to reword the idiot in chief to make him look bad. He does that every day when he opens his mouth...but good tryFlumper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:47 pm Here's a hint. Stapes isn't petrified of the coronavirus. He's one of those people playing with the statistics and rewording comments, etc to make it look bad for politics. It isn't a health concern at all that he has. Its just a political angle to play. I know everyone sees it, but for some reason people feel a need to feed into it. Its frankly just stupid.
please tell me you are smart enough to know the difference.
That is the point
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i think the mortality rate is less than 3.4% and I have a hunch its below 1% and I think there are probably people that have the virus and never even know it and then it goes away. The fact that he has those same hunches and is privy to way more information than I am makes me think maybe there's something to it.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:59 pm
Please tell me you understand when the President of the United States says he thinks the World Health Organizations number of 3.4% mortality rate is FALSE and he has a "hunch" its under 1% and that people are getting mild cases and going to work and getting better isn't FUCKING IRRESPONSIBLE!!!
That is the point
To put it another way, I think you are more stupid than he is.
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Luckily for me your opinion counts for nothing.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:08 pmi think the mortality rate is less than 3.4% and I have a hunch its below 1% and I think there are probably people that have the virus and never even know it and then it goes away. The fact that he has those same hunches and is privy to way more information than I am makes me think maybe there's something to it.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:59 pm
Please tell me you understand when the President of the United States says he thinks the World Health Organizations number of 3.4% mortality rate is FALSE and he has a "hunch" its under 1% and that people are getting mild cases and going to work and getting better isn't FUCKING IRRESPONSIBLE!!!
That is the point
To put it another way, I think you are more stupid than he is.
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Except he literally didn't say that. He said people go to work with it and are ok. Not it's ok to go to work with it. What fucking maroon you are. Dupe.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:32 pmAh...the he didn't mean what he said excuse. Lets face it.....he is a dumb motherfucker who can't properly talk about any subject. He insists on downplaying this like its nothing....just a mild cold....go about your business, go to work......no big dealnecronomous wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:26 pmThat's not what he said. That's a completely wrong. You know it, we know it. Jesus fucking Christ on a cracker I hope this isn't the way you interpret all the things he said.
Except it is more infectious than the flu.....the mortality rate is 20 times higher than the flu......he is a stupid fuck and so are you.
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Biker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:29 pmIts dopes like you that the media targets for their propaganda. Well done, dipshitStapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:59 pmPlease tell me you understand when the President of the United States says he thinks the World Health Organizations number of 3.4% mortality rate is FALSE and he has a "hunch" its under 1% and that people are getting mild cases and going to work and getting better isn't FUCKING IRRESPONSIBLE!!!Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:55 pmis there a difference when you say "its okay to go to work with coronovirus (somewhere in the world)" versus when you say "its okay to go to work with coronovirus (if you are currently infected with it)"?Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:53 pmI don't need to reword the idiot in chief to make him look bad. He does that every day when he opens his mouth...but good tryFlumper wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:47 pm Here's a hint. Stapes isn't petrified of the coronavirus. He's one of those people playing with the statistics and rewording comments, etc to make it look bad for politics. It isn't a health concern at all that he has. Its just a political angle to play. I know everyone sees it, but for some reason people feel a need to feed into it. Its frankly just stupid.
please tell me you are smart enough to know the difference.
That is the point
What propaganda dipshit? I'm just quoting the world health organization own statistics. It's propaganda to downplay something serious so your stock market stops going down and your admpinistration's failure to act decisively all in an attempt to protect your re-election.
if you could take Trump's Cock out of your throats for a few minutes you would maybe understand these things.
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