Liar-in-Chief to give a Speech to the Nation on Tuesday

[CaptQuint]

If Democrats offered 5 billion to be spent on speeding up adjudications, electronic surveillance, and other measures, would the Trumpets accept it in lieu of a wall?

Nope, Big Daddy Orange would lose face. Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

[B-Tender]

Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?

The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.

But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?

Some areas need physical barriers. Some areas, particularly mountains, aren't practical for physical barriers. The strategy needs to be prevention of illegal immigration that is reasonably and financialy prudent.

[B-Tender]

But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?

Some areas need physical barriers. Some areas, particularly mountains, aren't practical for physical barriers. The strategy needs to be prevention of illegal immigration that is reasonably and financialy prudent.

So welfare to those in Latin America is far more inexpensive? Come on now

I actually think that investing in Latin America to help develope their economies can be more cost effective than mass immigration.

[CaptQuint]

When The Trump Organization procures false documents for illegal aliens they pay FICA taxes so that they can never recover so they pay for the other's foods stamps

[B-Tender]

I am getting the point where I almost want Trump to get the financing for the wall, so people can see what a boondoggle it's goiing to be. If you think it will be built for $5 billion you're crazy. The costs will continue to rise. They will come back asking for just a little more money on a regular basis citing "uncontrollable, or unforseen events". It reminds me a bit of the California Bullet Train.

[AnalHamster]

5bn isn't supposed to be the price tag, maybe some pundits are pretending it is, but that's just to get started so trump can stand in front of something. 25bn minimum if it happens, and let's face it, costs spiral.

[Stapes]

30 to 50 billion more like it built by one of Trump's pals so they all can get a piece of the pie and getting stuck maintaining for good knows how long. In the meantime most of the bridges in this country are in shit shape and Flint michigan kids are drinking poison

[CaptQuint]

There is always a grift

[CaptQuint]

Remember trump's leaked phone call to the Mexican president begging him to pay, or at least say they would pay, or at the very least not refute that they payed and 'we'll make it up to them'?

Uselessjunk remembers

[DandyDon]

Yep, nobody is trying to rob the bank in front of the TV cameras. Brilliant Correlation vs Causation there Skippy.

[stymiegreen]

Wait so the the fact that there weren't immigrants impaling themselves against the wall fruitlessly during the 40 second clip was "proof that walls work"?

Holy fuck

[stymiegreen]

I laffed,


Donald Trump's Old Advice About How To Defeat A Wall Comes Back To Haunt Him

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/do ... b31c3f3d79

[Charliesheen]

30 to 50 billion more like it built by one of Trump's pals so they all can get a piece of the pie and getting stuck maintaining for good knows how long. In the meantime most of the bridges in this country are in shit shape and Flint michigan kids are drinking poison

With the exception of interstates, shit bridges are not the purview of Uncle Sam. Nor are the idiots running the Flint water system. Border security is clearly an executive function.

[CaptQuint]

Lot of shitty interstate bridges

Despite billions of dollars in annual federal, state and local funds directed toward the maintenance of existing bridges, 68,842 bridges – representing more than 11 percent of total highway bridges in the U.S. – are classified as “structurally deficient,” according to the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA). Structurally deficient bridges require significant maintenance, rehabilitation or replacement. A number of bridges also exceed their expected lifespan of 50 years. The average age of an American bridge is 42 years.

http://t4america.org/maps-tools/bridges/overview/

[CaptQuint]

[CaptQuint]

[CaptQuint]

Probably avoiding areas with TV crews as well

[CaptQuint]

[Wut]

I have an idea for a compromise; authorize a wall 500 miles long, 2 feet tall.

Pictures of Trump standing in front of it would be hilarious.

[dot]

Inb4 Biker's next I'm not racist excuses.

[B-Tender]

The shutdown has done a wonderful job of taking the media's coverage of the Mueller report down several notches.

[CaptQuint]

Bobby 3 sticks prefers it that way. The silence is deafening

[stymiegreen]

Wait so the the fact that there weren't immigrants impaling themselves against the wall fruitlessly during the 40 second clip was "proof that walls work"?

Holy fuck

Thats the point, knucklehead. Illegals are avoiding areas with barriers.

So the fact that they weren't there in droves during the filming of the video is enough proof for you that they are avoiding areas with barriers? You really are a simple Trumper. Lulz.

[CaptQuint]

Republicans in the House of Representatives are planning to deny the White House the vast bulk of its request for resources to manage the surge of unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally into the US.

Instead, Republicans have coalesced around a plan to provide President Barack Obama’s administration with a significantly slimmed-down package designed to help agencies cope with the thousands of Central American children arriving at the border over the summer.

Legislation unveiled to the House GOP during a closed-door meeting on Tuesday, authorises only $659m, far less than the $3.7bn Obama requested weeks ago or the $2.7bn that would be released in a rival Democratic bill in the Senate. And it is less than half the $1.5bn that a working group set up by the Republican House speaker, John Boehner, recently suggested needed to be spent to manage the border crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ ... ant-crisis

Why do Republicans hate border security when a Democrat is president? That's the real question.

What about Obama's program to allow asylum seekers to apply in their home countries?
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/us/o ... erica.html

That cut down on physical travel to the border. Trump destroyed that program.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html

Why do we even need a wall? Immigration is at a historic low.

2000: Total Southwestern Border Apprehensions: 1.6 million.

2017: Total Southwestern Border Apprehensions: 303,000.

Trump even bragged about how few illegal border crossings there were last year:

"45 year low on illegal border crossings this year. Ice and Border Patrol Agents are doing a great job for our Country. MS-13 thugs being hit hard."

[AnalHamster]

Wait so the the fact that there weren't immigrants impaling themselves against the wall fruitlessly during the 40 second clip was "proof that walls work"?

Holy fuck

Thats the point, knucklehead. Illegals are avoiding areas with barriers.

So the fact that they weren't there in droves during the filming of the video is enough proof for you that they are avoiding areas with barriers? You really are a simple Trumper. Lulz.

Its not me that thinks this, it the border agents themselves. They dont believe in a 2000 mile contiguous wall, but rather, barriers installed in strategic places. You know, something reasonable and logical

Also known as the status quo that democrats support.