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You know how you can tell I'm old?

I remember when people were taught to slide in leg first. In the days when the defensive players would spike your head if you dared slide into second any other way.

P.S. And the guys sliding into second would do it "spikes up."

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:35 pm You know how you can tell I'm old?

I remember when people were taught to slide in leg first. In the days when the defensive players would spike your head if you dared slide into second any other way.

P.S. And the guys sliding into second would do it "spikes up."

I'm guessing they finally figured out that busted up hands, wrists and arms healed a lot faster than busted up feet, ankles and legs. Especially knees.

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:46 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:35 pm You know how you can tell I'm old?

I remember when people were taught to slide in leg first. In the days when the defensive players would spike your head if you dared slide into second any other way.

P.S. And the guys sliding into second would do it "spikes up."

I'm guessing they finally figured out that busted up hands, wrists and arms healed a lot faster than busted up feet, ankles and legs. Especially knees.

Legs first allowed you to retaliate against over-aggressive defenders though. And it was considered a way to break up attempted double plays.

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:35 pm You know how you can tell I'm old?

I remember when people were taught to slide in leg first. In the days when the defensive players would spike your head if you dared slide into second any other way.

P.S. And the guys sliding into second would do it "spikes up."

there has been at least one study that compared the results of both techniques: 1) Feet first slide. and 2) head first slide.

They used 60 various ball players at different levels. Explained: Methods: A total of 60 players ranging from Little League to college level was analyzed. Each athlete was evaluated three times from a standing start at first base to either a head-first or feet-first touch of second base. Each athlete was also timed in a 40-yard sprint and his or her preferred sliding technique was recorded.

Results: We found no statistically significant difference in speed between head-first and feet-first sliding at all levels of play in this study.

So, I think it is just a player preference and there might be a little bit of advantage head first in being able to make yourself a more difficult target to tag. You see some baserunners go really wide of the bag and reach out almost sideways to tag the base.

Another study using high speed cameras to compare the two methods:

Abstract
Objective: To determine the method of sliding that propels the baseball athlete to the desired base in the shortest amount of time. To assess the athlete's perception of the quickest, safest, and preferred sliding technique.

Design: A single occasion with repeated measures design was used. The independent variable was slide type, and the dependent variable was time.

Setting: The study was conducted in October 2000 at the University of Kentucky baseball complex.

Participants: Twenty collegiate baseball players.

Interventions: High-speed video (to 1/200th of second) analysis of 20 collegiate baseball players performing 3 trials each of both head-first and feet-first sliding techniques. Additionally, each participant was asked to complete a sliding survey.

Main outcome measures: The videotape of each slide performed was reviewed separately (using the same viewing equipment) by 2 of the study investigators. Slide type and time were recorded for each slide.

Results: There was no significant difference between head-first versus feet-first slide times (P = 0.357). The average time for feet-first slides was 3.67 seconds, while that for head-first was 3.65 seconds. Sixty-eight percent of the players felt that head-first slides were faster than feet-first slides. Seventy-four percent identified the feet-first slide as the technique they most used, while 90% of the athletes perceived the feet-first technique to be safer.

Conclusions: On average, head-first and feet-first sliding techniques employed at the end aspect of base running propel the baseball player to the base in similar times. The head-first sliding technique is perceived to be faster and more dangerous.

You know, a video of you and CTC testing your theories out on a slip n slide would have been more entertaining.

saltydog wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:55 pm You know, a video of you and CTC testing your theories out on a slip n slide would have been more entertaining.

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:53 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:46 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:35 pm You know how you can tell I'm old?

I remember when people were taught to slide in leg first. In the days when the defensive players would spike your head if you dared slide into second any other way.

P.S. And the guys sliding into second would do it "spikes up."

I'm guessing they finally figured out that busted up hands, wrists and arms healed a lot faster than busted up feet, ankles and legs. Especially knees.

Legs first allowed you to retaliate against over-aggressive defenders though. And it was considered a way to break up attempted double plays.

I've read that Ty Cobb was the nastiest, dirty baserunner. Would slide into second cleats high like he was trying to take someone's arm off.

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:10 pm

I believe Mets player Rubin Tejada broke his leg on that play.

Vague recollection it may have led to some MLB rulemaking to protect players

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:59 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:10 pm

I believe Mets player Rubin Tejada broke his leg on that play.

Vague recollection it may have led to some MLB rulemaking to protect players

That looks like it was intentional.

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:06 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:59 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:10 pm

I believe Mets player Rubin Tejada broke his leg on that play.

Vague recollection it may have led to some MLB rulemaking to protect players

That looks like it was intentional.

I don't know if he meant to break a leg, but he sure as hell was making sure that Tejada wasn't getting a double play.

IMO he should have been thrown out for intent to harm a player doing something that had nothing to do with actually running the basepaths.

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:06 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:59 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:10 pm

I believe Mets player Rubin Tejada broke his leg on that play.

Vague recollection it may have led to some MLB rulemaking to protect players

That looks like it was intentional.

White privilege. The fact they called Utley out on the play and reviewed it to overturn themselves is ridiculous. He could have walked in and been safe once they didn't give Mets a neighborhood play out. Oh and Fuck the Dodgers!

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:06 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:59 pm

Animal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:10 pm

I believe Mets player Rubin Tejada broke his leg on that play.

Vague recollection it may have led to some MLB rulemaking to protect players

That looks like it was intentional.

My favorite play of all time.

saltydog wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:41 am My favorite play of all time.

I didn't see anything wrong with that pitch. There must have been prior shenanigans. That was a pretty tame HBP.

Ahhhh cause for a minute there I thought Grisham didn't know how many outs there were...

Bob Melvin defintely made some questionable (bone head) decisions but the Phillies are just a better team and have Harper hitting like the best hitter in the sport.

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:18 am the Phillies have Harper hitting like the best hitter in the sport.

Agreed. The Phillies are as hot as the Braves were last year at this time.

Bryce Harper is good at baseball.

Congrats to the Phillies. They are hot right now, and far outplayed the Padres. Houston will be a tough match up, but I will will be rooting for the Phillies in that one.