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spudoc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:00 pm

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:22 pm

spudoc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:55 pm

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:43 pm Guess I stumped Ol' spudoc...

lol

Stumped me with an opinion question? I chose not to participate because what you are asking isn't really part of the discussion.

Actually, it is.

But its OK.

You take those over-simplifications and run with 'em kiddo. You do you.

No it’s not. This discussion started out with me addressing a meme. You decided to say that taxes are theft and wanted to start a discussion on “good” and “bad” taxes. It’s not relevant and I don’t really care about it.

More accurately: You dismissed me under the fraudulent claim that I stand for 'taxes = theft'.

And when given the opportunity to curb your prejudice, and maybe learn something --> you have opted to "not really care about it".

You tried to draw a moral equivalency between wanting to feed everyone using taxation and letting people starve, and you aren't trying to say some variant of the standard taxation is theft bullshit?

You never understand your own positions. It's always amusing.

I did no such thing.

But keep trying to sell your road fudge, anal.

There are a few people here who really love the taste and texture.

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:07 am One side says, 'we need to feed everyone, even if we have to take from others to do so.'

The other says, 'we only want feed those who truly cannot feed themselves and no one else. Even if that means a few have to starve.'

Both of these stances are morally wrong, and there is also no easy answers to these kinds of questions.

Liar. There you are right there trying to pretend 'even if we have to tax people' and 'even if people have to starve' are equivalent negative consequences.

And there is actually an easy answer there, don't let people starve. Pretty simples, you sicko.

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:19 pm

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:07 am One side says, 'we need to feed everyone, even if we have to take from others to do so.'

The other says, 'we only want feed those who truly cannot feed themselves and no one else. Even if that means a few have to starve.'

Both of these stances are morally wrong, and there is also no easy answers to these kinds of questions.

Liar. There you are right there trying to pretend 'even if we have to tax people' and 'even if people have to starve' are equivalent negative consequences.

And there is actually an easy answer there, don't let people starve. Pretty simples, you sicko.

So, if you call me a liar and just reassert your bullshit claim... Magically it becomes true???

LOL! Sorry, kiddo. That' isn't how it works.

I made no such claim. You, like spudoc before you, are trying to over-simplify complex issues. I imagine you feel nice in smug touting moronic slogans like those. Its no different than chanting the manta of just "giving everyone a million dollars". Sounds great and makes you feel warm and fuzzy, until you put an ounce of thought into what you are proposing and realize its not that simple and your idea is actually just shit.

I literally just quoted you saying what you now deny saying, you fucking nut

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:50 pm I literally just made up a quote

All by yourself?

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:54 pm

spudoc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:00 pm

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:22 pm

spudoc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:55 pm

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:43 pm Guess I stumped Ol' spudoc...

lol

Stumped me with an opinion question? I chose not to participate because what you are asking isn't really part of the discussion.

Actually, it is.

But its OK.

You take those over-simplifications and run with 'em kiddo. You do you.

No it’s not. This discussion started out with me addressing a meme. You decided to say that taxes are theft and wanted to start a discussion on “good” and “bad” taxes. It’s not relevant and I don’t really care about it.

More accurately: You dismissed me under the fraudulent claim that I stand for 'taxes = theft'.

And when given the opportunity to curb your prejudice, and maybe learn something --> you have opted to "not really care about it".

Fraudulent claim that taxes =theft? You clearly stated that society needs to come up with solutions that don’t involve stealing from one group for the benefit of another. You literally used the word “stealing” in a place that the only concept you could be talking about was taxes.

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:01 am

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:54 pm

spudoc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:00 pm

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:22 pm

spudoc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:55 pm

Cassandros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:43 pm Guess I stumped Ol' spudoc...

lol

Stumped me with an opinion question? I chose not to participate because what you are asking isn't really part of the discussion.

Actually, it is.

But its OK.

You take those over-simplifications and run with 'em kiddo. You do you.

No it’s not. This discussion started out with me addressing a meme. You decided to say that taxes are theft and wanted to start a discussion on “good” and “bad” taxes. It’s not relevant and I don’t really care about it.

More accurately: You dismissed me under the fraudulent claim that I stand for 'taxes = theft'.

And when given the opportunity to curb your prejudice, and maybe learn something --> you have opted to "not really care about it".

Fraudulent claim that taxes =theft? You clearly stated that society needs to come up with solutions that don’t involve stealing from one group for the benefit of another. You literally used the word “stealing” in a place that the only concept you could be talking about was taxes.

Just because I don't want to feed everyone by stealing from some people doesn't automatically mean I think "tax = theft".

You are putting words in my mouth --> you are the fraud.

There are good taxes, there are bad, and there is outright theft. Convince me your 'feed everyone' bill is fair. (And realize that if its not fair --> its at best a 'bad tax' and at its worst its Theft).

On a farm, if an animal costs more than it benefits the farm, then you get rid of it.

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:15 am On a farm, if an animal costs more than it benefits the farm, then you get rid of it.

Society isn’t a business and people aren’t a commodity.

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:22 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:15 am On a farm, if an animal costs more than it benefits the farm, then you get rid of it.

Society isn’t a business and people aren’t a commodity.

I was just pointing out how you run a farm.

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:27 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:22 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:15 am On a farm, if an animal costs more than it benefits the farm, then you get rid of it.

Society isn’t a business and people aren’t a commodity.

I was just pointing out how you run a farm.

So what, is this just some stream of consciousness bullshit?

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:33 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:27 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:22 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:15 am On a farm, if an animal costs more than it benefits the farm, then you get rid of it.

Society isn’t a business and people aren’t a commodity.

I was just pointing out how you run a farm.

So what, is this just some stream of consciousness bullshit?

yep

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:33 am
So what, is this just some stream of consciousness bullshit?

don't you ever wonder what the pirates did with men on the ship that didn't pull their weight?

or what effects the "common good" principles would have had on the evolution of species if they had been implemented?

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:22 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:15 am On a farm, if an animal costs more than it benefits the farm, then you get rid of it.

Society isn’t a business and people aren’t a commodity.

You're right society is a construct and most people can fend for themselves, but if you want help the few who can't, you don't give all the food away at once and kill everyone else later from lack of food.

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:13 pm You tried to draw a moral equivalency between wanting to feed everyone using taxation and letting people starve, and you aren't trying to say some variant of the standard taxation is theft bullshit?

You never understand your own positions. It's always amusing.

Holy shit, you're dumber than Stapes. Oh well.

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:03 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:33 am
So what, is this just some stream of consciousness bullshit?

don't you ever wonder what the pirates did with men on the ship that didn't pull their weight?

or what effects the "common good" principles would have had on the evolution of species if they had been implemented?

Do you really formulate your positions on socio-economical issue by engaging in some pirate fantasy?
And the human species would have not survived if it had not been for the adoption of the “common good” where people engaged in cooperation rather than competition.

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:15 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:03 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:33 am
So what, is this just some stream of consciousness bullshit?

don't you ever wonder what the pirates did with men on the ship that didn't pull their weight?

or what effects the "common good" principles would have had on the evolution of species if they had been implemented?

Do you really formulate your positions on socio-economical issue by engaging in some pirate fantasy?
And the human species would have not survived if it had not been for the adoption of the “common good” where people engaged in cooperation rather than competition.

you think pirates are fiction?

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:21 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:15 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:03 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:33 am
So what, is this just some stream of consciousness bullshit?

don't you ever wonder what the pirates did with men on the ship that didn't pull their weight?

or what effects the "common good" principles would have had on the evolution of species if they had been implemented?

Do you really formulate your positions on socio-economical issue by engaging in some pirate fantasy?
And the human species would have not survived if it had not been for the adoption of the “common good” where people engaged in cooperation rather than competition.

you think pirates are fiction?

You think Pirates of the Caribbean is a documentary?

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:24 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:21 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:15 am

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:03 am

spudoc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:33 am
So what, is this just some stream of consciousness bullshit?

don't you ever wonder what the pirates did with men on the ship that didn't pull their weight?

or what effects the "common good" principles would have had on the evolution of species if they had been implemented?

Do you really formulate your positions on socio-economical issue by engaging in some pirate fantasy?
And the human species would have not survived if it had not been for the adoption of the “common good” where people engaged in cooperation rather than competition.

you think pirates are fiction?

You think Pirates of the Caribbean is a documentary?

necronomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:09 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:13 pm You tried to draw a moral equivalency between wanting to feed everyone using taxation and letting people starve, and you aren't trying to say some variant of the standard taxation is theft bullshit?

You never understand your own positions. It's always amusing.

Holy shit, you're dumber than Stapes. Oh well.

You love calling people dumb but you should go look in the mirror house wife

Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:34 am

necronomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:09 am

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:13 pm You tried to draw a moral equivalency between wanting to feed everyone using taxation and letting people starve, and you aren't trying to say some variant of the standard taxation is theft bullshit?

You never understand your own positions. It's always amusing.

Holy shit, you're dumber than Stapes. Oh well.

You love calling people dumb but you should go look in the mirror house wife

Only the ones that are fucking stupid.. also Im not vain, so no thanks. And calling me a house wife doesn't hurt my feelings. Its an honor and obviously you're jealous your wife doesn't fuck you as much as mine fucks me. Its ok. We have already established I've hurt your feelings. You're a big boy, you'll get over it eventually...you stupid fucking idiot.

Lol... Half a man

Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:18 am Lol... Half a man

Yet, still more of a man than you'll ever be...by far. Even if I cut that half in half, and chop my dick off, I would still be more of a man than you ever could be.