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CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:04 pm

Biker wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:54 pm

Stapes wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:49 pm

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say there is more to this story

Did the limb break yet? Did the black Lieutenant not return a library book in 1993?

Doesn’t look like he complied from what I’ve read

Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:15 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:04 pm

Biker wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:54 pm

Stapes wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:49 pm

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say there is more to this story

Did the limb break yet? Did the black Lieutenant not return a library book in 1993?

Doesn’t look like he complied from what I’ve read

Legally he didn't have to. And he shouldn't have, that cop is clearly mentally ill.

Republicans like Biker are more concerned about appearance than actually being able to do the job the taxpayers pay you for.

*Not a Republican

Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:32 pm

there is ZERO difference in what she is doing with BLM and what a guy like Joel Olstein or Jimmy Swaggert does with religion. Just milk it for every penny and have them gobble it up while they make you rich.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:13 am

I never get those on my feed

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:59 am

What the fuck is wrong with you

Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:17 am

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:59 am

What the fuck is wrong with you

What the fuck is wrong with you, faggot?

When a patrol car activated its siren and emergency lights behind Caron Nazario in December, the Army lieutenant says he was reluctant to immediately pull over. That stretch of road, just west of Norfolk, Va., was dark, and there didn't seem to be anywhere to stop safely.

So Nazario, who is Black and Latino, slowed down, put his blinker on, and — about a mile down the road — pulled over at a well-lit BP gas station, according to a federal lawsuit he filed earlier this month. At that point, two officers approached Nazario, guns drawn, yelling at him to get out of the car.

"What's going on?" Nazario, dressed in uniform, repeatedly asked.

Windsor Police Department officer Joe Gutierrez responded: "What's going on is you're fixing to ride the lightning, son."

Gutierrez — whose employment with the department has since been terminated following an internal investigation — and his partner Daniel Crocker are now the defendants in a lawsuit arguing that they violated Nazario's constitutional rights through the use of excessive force and unlawful search and seizure.

The complaint alleges that the officers' behavior is "consistent with a disgusting nationwide trend of law enforcement officers, who, believing they can operate with complete impunity, engage in unprofessional, discourteous, racially biased, dangerous, and sometimes deadly abuses of authority."



In a report filed on the night of the incident, Gutierrez says they were treating it as a "high risk traffic stop" because Nazario's vehicle had no tag displayed, he took a long time to stop, and he had "extremely dark" window tint.

But in the federal complaint, Nazario's attorney writes that the newly purchased Chevrolet Tahoe did have two temporary plates inside of his car, taped to the rear window and on the passenger side. The complaint alleges that by the time the officers approached Nazario's vehicle, they knew of the temporary plates — yet continued the high-risk felony stop anyway.

The officers decided to "pull their weapons, illegally detain Lt. Nazario, threaten to murder him, illegally spray him with [pepper spray], and illegally searched his vehicle," the complaint says.

The murder threat, the complaint claims, comes from Gutierrez's comment that Nazario was fixing to "ride the lightning" — a colloquial expression for execution that refers to death by electric chair.

In the police report, Gutierrez indicates that he threatened to use his Taser on Nazario. Nazario's lawyer, Jonathan Arthur, told NPR that even if Gutierrez meant to refer to using a Taser on Nazario when he talked about riding the lightning, he said, the video "leaves little doubt" that he also "meant and intended every word of the implicit meaning."

Multiple videos — from Nazario's cell phone and the body cameras worn by Crocker and Gutierrez — captured the interaction from several angles. At one point, Nazario said: "I'm honestly afraid to get out." In response, Gutierrez said: "Yeah, you should be."

Gutierrez proceeded to pepper-spray Nazario multiple times, footage shows. Nazario then got out of his vehicle and asked for a supervisor. Gutierrez responded by knocking him to the ground with "knee-strikes," the suit alleges. The officers then struck him, handcuffed and interrogated him. Paramedics arrived soon after to treat Nazario's eyes for the pepper spray.

Ultimately, Nazario was let go — but not before the officers "threatened Lt. Nazario's job and his commission in the United States Army if he spoke out knowing the harm criminal charges would cause him," the complaint says. That attempt to "extort" Nazario formed the basis of the complaint's argument that the officers violated Nazario's First Amendment rights.

Virginia lawmakers have called for the police officers to be investigated immediately. The Virginia Legislative Black Caucus said the officers must be "held accountable for their atrocious actions."

Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring called the incident unacceptable. "The Windsor Police Department needs to be fully transparent about what happened during the stop and what was done in response to it," Herring said.

Gov. Ralph Northam said on Sunday that he's directed Virginia State Police to conduct an independent investigation into what he called a "disturbing" incident.

As a result of last year's incident, Gutierrez was "terminated from his employment," the Town of Windsor said in a news release on Sunday. The decision was made following an internal investigation at the Windsor Police Department that led to "disciplinary action" as well as additional training that began in January 2021.

"The pursuit and ultimate stop resulted in the use of pepper spray against Lt. Nazario by Officer Gutierrez," the statement read. "At the conclusion of this investigation, it was determined that Windsor Police Department policy was not followed."

NPR tried unsuccessfully to reach Windsor police for comment. An email was not returned and their voicemail was full. It's unclear whether Gutierrez and Crocker have attorneys who could comment on their behalf.

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/11/98627181 ... t-is-fired

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:59 am

How is that relevant?

After the altercation, the suit says Officer Gutierrez said he understood why Nazario looked for a lighted place to pull over, saying: “I get it, the media spewing race relations between law enforcement and minorities. I get it.”


Clearly the medias fault

I don't get it: folk like Greg Kelly want Americans to be fully locked 'n loaded 24/7 in all aspects of life. Then when an alleged suspect is pulled over and and found with a "loaded GUN" in their car, there's always some implication of illegal possession and mal-intent of use. *Does* the Army lieutenant and honored member of the Medical Corp have a right to own and possess a weapon for personal security while out and about on his personal time, or does he *not*? Does the major crime of not having a licence tag on his car (which in fact he did have) negate his right to possessing a weapon?

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:08 am

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:59 am

How is that relevant?

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:35 pm I don't get it: folk like Greg Kelly want Americans to be fully locked 'n loaded 24/7 in all aspects of life. Then when an alleged suspect is pulled over and and found with a "loaded GUN" in their car, there's always some implication of illegal possession and mal-intent of use. *Does* the Army lieutenant and honored member of the Medical Corp have a right to own and possess a weapon for personal security while out and about on his personal time, or does he *not*? Does the major crime of not having a licence tag on his car (which in fact he did have) negate his right to possessing a weapon?

A belief system that's more flexible than an elastic band.

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:35 pm I don't get it: folk like Greg Kelly want Americans to be fully locked 'n loaded 24/7 in all aspects of life. Then when an alleged suspect is pulled over and and found with a "loaded GUN" in their car, there's always some implication of illegal possession and mal-intent of use. *Does* the Army lieutenant and honored member of the Medical Corp have a right to own and possess a weapon for personal security while out and about on his personal time, or does he *not*? Does the major crime of not having a licence tag on his car (which in fact he did have) negate his right to possessing a weapon?

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:08 am

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:59 am

How is that relevant?

The LT was not arrested nor ticketed, the cop was fired. Biker The "Totally not racist Democrat and Greg Kelly can get fucked

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:48 pm

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:35 pm I don't get it: folk like Greg Kelly want Americans to be fully locked 'n loaded 24/7 in all aspects of life. Then when an alleged suspect is pulled over and and found with a "loaded GUN" in their car, there's always some implication of illegal possession and mal-intent of use. *Does* the Army lieutenant and honored member of the Medical Corp have a right to own and possess a weapon for personal security while out and about on his personal time, or does he *not*? Does the major crime of not having a licence tag on his car (which in fact he did have) negate his right to possessing a weapon?

A belief system that's more flexible than an elastic band.

Greg Kelly want Americans to be fully locked 'n loaded 24/7 in all aspects of life.

Only if they're the "white...er...right kind of people."

P.S. But I wouldn't blame a police officer for being extra cautious if a person they pulled over had a visible gun nearby. I'd want to see both of their hands until they got away from it.

Biker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:04 am

I'm a big believer in Real Estate myself. Smart woman.