Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"

[CaptQuint]

War crimes don't bother vince none

[Charliesheen]

So what was an Iranian general up to in Iraq, anyhow?

[FSchmertz]

So what was an Iranian general up to in Iraq, anyhow?

Guess you didn't read the stuff on the previous page?

Most of the time, he's been up to no good. Supposedly this time, he might have been on a peace mission. And it's been alleged that we may have used that to set him up.

[Wut]

So what was an Iranian general up to in Iraq, anyhow?

What are American generals up to in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Germany, etc. etc. etc.

Does his presence in a country outside of his own warrant assassination?

[CaptQuint]

So what was an Iranian general up to in Iraq, anyhow?

Going to talk to The Iraqi Prime Minister at Trumps request you fucking dolt

[Antknot]

Where did you get that?

Shits pretty wild right now, things are being deleted and reappearing

That is crazy. Lots of shit just flying, both credible and nonsense

If it's true, holy fuck

Certainly makes you think Chump's threat to Iran's cultural sites might not just be his usual B.S., even though it would be a blatant war crime.

It's not the fact that Trump is too stupid to realize what horrible decisions he is making that worries me. I never believed he had any ability to think strategically. It's that senior military officials gave him those options in the first place. What the fuck were they thinking?

It wasn't " I'll give them pallets of cash.".

[CaptQuint]

Their own cash

[FSchmertz]

Where did you get that?

Shits pretty wild right now, things are being deleted and reappearing

That is crazy. Lots of shit just flying, both credible and nonsense

If it's true, holy fuck

Certainly makes you think Chump's threat to Iran's cultural sites might not just be his usual B.S., even though it would be a blatant war crime.

It's not the fact that Trump is too stupid to realize what horrible decisions he is making that worries me. I never believed he had any ability to think strategically. It's that senior military officials gave him those options in the first place. What the fuck were they thinking?

Well, if it can be proven that military officials were involved, Chump wouldn't be the only war criminal.

See: Nuremberg trials

[CaptQuint]

[AnalHamster]

Where did you get that?

Shits pretty wild right now, things are being deleted and reappearing

That is crazy. Lots of shit just flying, both credible and nonsense

If it's true, holy fuck

Certainly makes you think Chump's threat to Iran's cultural sites might not just be his usual B.S., even though it would be a blatant war crime.

It's not the fact that Trump is too stupid to realize what horrible decisions he is making that worries me. I never believed he had any ability to think strategically. It's that senior military officials gave him those options in the first place. What the fuck were they thinking?

They were thinking that the extreme option made the options they wanted him to select look more palatable in comparison. It's a standard ploy, they just misjudged how erratic and unpredictable he is. Remember this is the guy who has been resisting the usual proportional responses before this, which has encouraged Iran to push further. The military planners just assumed he'd be reluctant to start a war, since he has been. They didn't count on him being a tard who will be swayed by the TV.

The options included strikes on Iranian ships or missile facilities or against Iranian-backed militia groups in Iraq. The Pentagon also tacked on the choice of targeting General Suleimani, mainly to make other options seem reasonable.
...
When Mr. Trump chose the option of killing General Suleimani, top military officials, flabbergasted, were immediately alarmed about the prospect of Iranian retaliatory strikes on American troops in the region. It is unclear if General Milley or Mr. Esper pushed back on the president’s decision.

So now the fight against ISIS is suspended, US troops are getting booted out of Iraq, and Iran is back on course to develop a nuke. And Iran hasn't even struck back yet. If you'd offered the Ayotollah an american withdrawal from Iraq in exchange for this one guy, he'd have jumped at it. On top of that they get national unity at a time when they sorely needed it and the moderates supporting the hardliners. It's actually been a pretty good week for Iran.

[kwebber]

"Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate - he's weak and ineffective.

"So the only way he figures that he's going to get re-elected, and as sure as you're sitting there, is to start a war with Iran."

You forgot to credit the original source of that comment:

"Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate - he's weak and ineffective.
"So the only way he figures that he's going to get re-elected, and as sure as you're sitting there, is to start a war with Iran."

[Charliesheen]

So what was an Iranian general up to in Iraq, anyhow?

Going to talk to The Iraqi Prime Minister at Trumps request you fucking dolt

Right ...

[CaptQuint]

So what was an Iranian general up to in Iraq, anyhow?

Going to talk to The Iraqi Prime Minister at Trumps request you fucking dolt

Right ...

Keep sticking your fingers in your ears, you and your orange ball of lies will be dead soon enough.

[beagleboy]

[Charliesheen]

So what was an Iranian general up to in Iraq, anyhow?

Going to talk to The Iraqi Prime Minister at Trumps request you fucking dolt

Right ...

Keep sticking your fingers in your ears, you and your orange ball of lies will be dead soon enough.

As if the general is the best choice to send a message to an Iraqi.

[beagleboy]

The source for the supposedly freedom meeting is the PM of Iraq. Sorry but I seriously doubt a high level Iranian General is traveling to Iraq as a messenger boy. I believe that storyline as much as I believe Pompeo's stories justifying the strike.

When should we be expecting that impending terror strike that justified the attack? Or was his existence the only thing keeping it intact?

[Wut]

Seems like Trump is the one who has given Iran the means to keep their nuclear program.

[CHEEZY17]

Sorry, but I'm still having a hard time being sad this asshat is dead. Yes, another will take his place and if he's found to be plotting attacks on Americans or American interests we should take him out too. And so on and so on until, hopefully, the Iranian people tire of their leadership from the dark ages. Fuck them, fuck their backwards beliefs and fuck their sponsorship of terrorism throughout the world.

[beagleboy]

I don't think anyone cares if he's dead or alive. The point is that the killing was illegal, immoral, increased the odds of further terrorism / violence in the region and really has no end game solution for the problems it has raised.

People say they don't give a fuck about Iraq and the US should leave, this basically means if we leave, we are just going next door and Iraq will now be our enemy for the next 50 years along side Iran. It was a flat out idiotic decision to make unless what you really want is endless war.

Trump's methods are probably going to be similar to North Korea and now that's he's escalated the tension in the region to the highest possible point he can, he'll try and set up a buddy / buddy negotiation strategy. It's basically right out of his supposed negotiation strategy with his contractors on developments when he refuses to pay.

[Cassandros]

Trump is doing what he is supposed to do; he is taking the existing policy of trashing the Constitution under bullshit claims of national security and doing what the last m&m did... but doing so in a little more extreme and overt manner.

Bush started a drone assassination program that was iffy at best, Obama took it and expanded it (even using it against a US citizen), and now Trump is pushing the envelope a little further by ignoring some of the protocols that were set up as an illusion of checks and balances.

The game has been rigged for a long ass time; and both parties are guilty.

[VinceBordenIII]

US withdrawing from Iraq? Something is fishy here.

http://news.trust.org/item/20200106193750-gbx3f

BAGHDAD, Jan 6 (Reuters) - The United States-led military coalition against Islamic State said on Monday that it was pulling out of Iraq and would be repositioning forces over the next few days and weeks, a letter seen by Reuters showed.

"Sir, in deference to the sovereignty of the Republic of Iraq, and as requested by the Iraqi Parliament and the Prime Minister, CJTF-OIR will be repositioning forces over the course of the coming days and weeks to prepare for onward movement," read a letter from United States Marine Corps Brigadier General William H. Seely III, the commanding general of Task Force Iraq.

The authenticity of the letter, which was addressed to the Iraqi defence ministry's Combined Joint Operations Baghdad, was confirmed to Reuters independently by an Iraqi military source.

"We respect your sovereign decision to order our departure," it said. (Reporting by Ahmed Aboulenein Editing by Chizu Nomiyama)

We respect your sovereign decision to order our departure

[beagleboy]

I'll believe it when it happens.

Washington Post says the DOD has declared they will reposition troops within Iraq in anticipation of a possible withdrawal. Like previously, likely the decision is reversed once they can claim a threat exists again.

[Burn1dwn]

Sorry, but I'm still having a hard time being sad this asshat is dead. Yes, another will take his place and if he's found to be plotting attacks on Americans or American interests we should take him out too. And so on and so on until, hopefully, the Iranian people tire of their leadership from the dark ages. Fuck them, fuck their backwards beliefs and fuck their sponsorship of terrorism throughout the world.

So you think if we keep playing Wack-a-mole eventually the Iranians will get sick of it and vote out the mullahs?

[VinceBordenIII]

I'll believe it when it happens.

Washington Post says the DOD has declared they will reposition troops within Iraq in anticipation of a possible withdrawal. Like previously, likely the decision is reversed once they can claim a threat exists again.

This feels like a "you want It? YOU GOT IT!!" kind of move.

"No! Wait!"

[beagleboy]

Inept

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/politics ... index.html

The top US general said Monday a letter suggesting the US would withdraw troops from Iraq was released by mistake and poorly worded, telling reporters "that's not what's happening."
Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley sought to address the confusion that began after the leak of aletter to the Iraqi government from US Command in Baghdad suggesting US troops would be withdrawn from the country.
"That letter is a draft. It was a mistake, it was unsigned, it should not have been released ... (it was) poorly worded, implies withdrawal, that is not what's happening," Milley said.
"It's an honest mistake ... it should not have been sent," he added.