Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:18 am
I sure do. Through the company. All attained through collective bargaining and fought for by generations of union labor, myself included.
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Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 am
I sure do. Through the company. All attained through collective bargaining and fought for by generations of union labor, myself included.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 am
except from the article:spudoc wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:23 pmNo. Try again.necronomous wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:15 pmUSSRbeagleboy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pmNot even close. Some communist countries become communist because of overly corrupt governments with dramatic disparity in wealth and the rest after a dramatic revolution of forceful change. Name a single country that slid from a significantly socialistic economy to Communism.
There are currently 5 communist countries in the world remaining and all went through civil wars to get there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik ... tariat
According to Soviet ideology, Russia was in the transition from capitalism to socialism (referred to interchangeably under Lenin as the dictatorship of the proletariat), socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:45 am
Awesome. You are lucky to have that. I think Bikers point is that both your 401k and your pension are invested in the stock market and that a healthy and growing market benefits more than just the wealthy. You yourself and millions of others are benefiting right now.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 am
I sure do. Through the company. All attained through collective bargaining and fought for by generations of union labor, myself included.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:47 am
necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 amexcept from the article:spudoc wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:23 pmNo. Try again.necronomous wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:15 pmUSSRbeagleboy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pmNot even close. Some communist countries become communist because of overly corrupt governments with dramatic disparity in wealth and the rest after a dramatic revolution of forceful change. Name a single country that slid from a significantly socialistic economy to Communism.
There are currently 5 communist countries in the world remaining and all went through civil wars to get there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik ... tariat
According to Soviet ideology, Russia was in the transition from capitalism to socialism (referred to interchangeably under Lenin as the dictatorship of the proletariat), socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.
Russia was under an autocratic Tsarist monarchy before the Bolsheviks. A feudal system of peasants and aristocracy. There was no capitalism
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:54 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:45 amAwesome. You are lucky to have that. I think Bikers point is that both your 401k and your pension are invested in the stock market and that a healthy and growing market benefits more than just the wealthy. You yourself and millions of others are benefiting right now.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 am
I sure do. Through the company. All attained through collective bargaining and fought for by generations of union labor, myself included.
I'm willing to risk a dip in stocks if it means more workers in this country have livable wages. I'm not going to re-elect a morally corrupt criminal as President just so my portfolio grows.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:06 am
Quick. Somebody find me a meme aboutCHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:45 amAwesome. You are lucky to have that. I think Bikers point is that both your 401k and your pension are invested in the stock market and that a healthy and growing market benefits more than just the wealthy. You yourself and millions of others are benefiting right now.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:24 am
I sure do. Through the company. All attained through collective bargaining and fought for by generations of union labor, myself included.
Biting the hand that feeds the socialist.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:17 am
lol...there is a lot of ignorance about democratic socialism and authoritarianism. Capitalism and Social democracy can work great together. Except it should work for the majority of people not an elite class of corporate executives and big stockholders making all the decisions. We have a perfect example right now of the Republican party basically working for corporate lobbyist and dismantling as many regulations and protections they can get there hands on and stuffing there pockets as quick as they can all while paying no federal taxes.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:47 am
According to Soviet ideology Russia...socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:47 amnecronomous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 amexcept from the article:spudoc wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:23 pmNo. Try again.necronomous wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:15 pmUSSRbeagleboy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pmNot even close. Some communist countries become communist because of overly corrupt governments with dramatic disparity in wealth and the rest after a dramatic revolution of forceful change. Name a single country that slid from a significantly socialistic economy to Communism.
There are currently 5 communist countries in the world remaining and all went through civil wars to get there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik ... tariat
According to Soviet ideology, Russia was in the transition from capitalism to socialism (referred to interchangeably under Lenin as the dictatorship of the proletariat), socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.
Russia was under an autocratic Tsarist monarchy before the Bolsheviks. A feudal system of peasants and aristocracy. There was no capitalism
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:28 pm
Golly.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:17 am lol...there is a lot of ignorance about democratic socialism and authoritarianism. Capitalism and Social democracy can work great together. Except it should work for the majority of people not an elite class of corporate executives and big stockholders making all the decisions. We have a perfect example right now of the Republican party basically working for corporate lobbyist and dismantling as many regulations and protections they can get there hands on and stuffing there pockets as quick as they can all while paying no federal taxes.
Sounds a lot like voters from 3 or four states deciding what's best for the other 46. Is there another example of that in politics?
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:48 pm
Nope, The Electoral College gives voters in rural areas much more say in whose President than voters in cities.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:52 pm
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:00 pm
Be glad they do. Californias cities are being managed into shit-holes by Democrats. They want for the rest of the country, too.
Gavin Newsome will be running soon.
Gavin Newsome will be running soon.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:03 pm
So you admit what you commented before is complete bullshit as there is no combination of 5 states that can get a President to 270Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:00 pm Be glad they do. Californias cities are being managed into shit-holes by Democrats. They want for the rest of the country, too.
Gavin Newsome will be running soon.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:17 pm
You can keep saying this but it doesn't change the fact that these conditions never existed in Russia or China or any place else.necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:47 amAccording to Soviet ideology Russia...socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:47 amnecronomous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 amexcept from the article:spudoc wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:23 pmNo. Try again.necronomous wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:15 pmUSSRbeagleboy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pm
Not even close. Some communist countries become communist because of overly corrupt governments with dramatic disparity in wealth and the rest after a dramatic revolution of forceful change. Name a single country that slid from a significantly socialistic economy to Communism.
There are currently 5 communist countries in the world remaining and all went through civil wars to get there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik ... tariat
According to Soviet ideology, Russia was in the transition from capitalism to socialism (referred to interchangeably under Lenin as the dictatorship of the proletariat), socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.
Russia was under an autocratic Tsarist monarchy before the Bolsheviks. A feudal system of peasants and aristocracy. There was no capitalism
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:27 pm
Can't win? Change the rules. Or drag in the courts. It works for crybabies.
the electoral college got us Trump. It's working exactly as it should. It protects small states from the tyranny of liberal shit-holes. Someday you'll be grateful it does.
the electoral college got us Trump. It's working exactly as it should. It protects small states from the tyranny of liberal shit-holes. Someday you'll be grateful it does.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:38 pm
I'm not saying it, I'm quoting it.spudoc wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:17 pmYou can keep saying this but it doesn't change the fact that these conditions never existed in Russia or China or any place else.necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:47 amAccording to Soviet ideology Russia...socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:47 amnecronomous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:33 amexcept from the article:
According to Soviet ideology, Russia was in the transition from capitalism to socialism (referred to interchangeably under Lenin as the dictatorship of the proletariat), socialism being the intermediate stage to communism, with the latter being the final stage which follows after socialism.
Russia was under an autocratic Tsarist monarchy before the Bolsheviks. A feudal system of peasants and aristocracy. There was no capitalism
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:39 pm
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:45 pm
Pure projection everyone knows changing the rules when they cannot win is at the top of the GOP playbook. And you have a lot of balls mentioning dragging the courts and being a crybaby when that is Trumps pastime.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:27 pm Can't win? Change the rules. Or drag in the courts. It works for crybabies.
the electoral college got us Trump. It's working exactly as it should. It protects small states from the tyranny of liberal shit-holes. Someday you'll be grateful it does.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:39 pm
Tyranny of the majority. The Electoral College prevents it and ensures the concerns and voices of less populated states are still addressed. The elite already despise the flyover country, does anyone really think that if their votes are rendered meaningless that would improve?
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:58 pm
Amazing how conservatives lie to themselves. Ranking after ranking has red states at the bottom of livability and wealth. The U.N.compares Alabama's poverty to a 3rd world country and the worst in the developed world.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:27 pm Can't win? Change the rules. Or drag in the courts. It works for crybabies.
the electoral college got us Trump. It's working exactly as it should. It protects small states from the tyranny of liberal shit-holes. Someday you'll be grateful it does.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:06 pm
Mmmmmkay. Let me know when Huntsville joins up with the rest of the cool kids and starts posting human shit spots on the web.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:13 pm
The homeless problem is very bad and a tough problem to solve but homeless encampments in certain areas of cities don't compare to state wide systemic failures in education, health care, infant mortality like some of these red states. Your so focused on finding some blue trees to hate you don't see the fucking red forest.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:06 pm Mmmmmkay. Let me know when Huntsville joins up with the rest of the cool kids and starts posting human shit spots on the web.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:18 pm
No.
Homeless shitting and pissing over themselves and our parks is THE bellwether issue for a supposedly wealthy state like California.
The leader of your party doesn't give a flying finger fick about it. All she cares about is orange man bad.
Homeless shitting and pissing over themselves and our parks is THE bellwether issue for a supposedly wealthy state like California.
The leader of your party doesn't give a flying finger fick about it. All she cares about is orange man bad.
Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:23 pm
If red states are so horrible why are most of the top growing states red? Could it be people fleeing high tax blue states for lower taxes is a factor?