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Post by VinceBordenIII » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:58 pm

these people all lived together and influenced each other. The blues takes from old timee Scottish music, as well.

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Post by beagleboy » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:03 pm

Elvis, Chuck Berry, Ike Turner, Fats Domino were all in the same time period. Elvis gets most credit because he was the first WHITE Rock and Roller to be successful.

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Post by HighNDry » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:31 pm

beagleboy wrote:
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Elvis, Chuck Berry, Ike Turner, Fats Domino were all in the same time period. Elvis gets most credit because he was the first WHITE Rock and Roller to be successful.
Maybe we need a Race n Roll HOF?
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Flumper wrote:
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The original thief of American rhythm and blues was The King, Elvis. If Elvis would have gone nowhere, there probably would not be a Rolling Stones and such.
No. If it hadn't been him it would have been someone else. Almost every white artist (from hank williams to jimmy rogers to duane allman) were all getting their inspiration from the black musicians.
Or if you're Led Zeppelin you just straight up steal your music from them!
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Post by BigRedRetard » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:39 pm

JCW wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:00 pm
Flumper wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:31 pm
hawkfan8812 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:24 pm
The original thief of American rhythm and blues was The King, Elvis. If Elvis would have gone nowhere, there probably would not be a Rolling Stones and such.
No. If it hadn't been him it would have been someone else. Almost every white artist (from hank williams to jimmy rogers to duane allman) were all getting their inspiration from the black musicians.
Or if you're Led Zeppelin you just straight up steal your music from them!
This could be said of just about any rock band from the 50's and 60's. Zep just did it the best.

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Post by CHEEZY17 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:16 pm

Just for a quick comparison...Here is Travelin Riverside Blues by Robert Johnson. After is the "same" song so many think Led Zeppelin "stole".

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Personally, I think the "original" is basically unlistenable.
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Post by hawkfan8812 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:30 pm

The Lemon Song is a clear rip off.

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Post by BigRedRetard » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:34 pm

Eric Clapton's whole career was stolen from the black man. What a turd.

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Post by HighNDry » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:40 pm

Next, you're all going to tell me that Vanilla ice stole the riff from Under Pressure...
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Post by CHEEZY17 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:45 pm

HighNDry wrote:
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Next, you're all going to tell me that Vanilla ice stole the riff from Under Pressure...
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Post by BigRedRetard » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm

HighNDry wrote:
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Next, you're all going to tell me that Vanilla ice stole the riff from Under Pressure...
Vanilla Ice says its not the same!


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Post by kwebber » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:54 pm

hawkfan8812 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:24 pm
The original thief of American rhythm and blues was The King, Elvis. If Elvis would have gone nowhere, there probably would not be a Rolling Stones and such.
Not that I care anything aboot Elvis Pressley, but why call him a thief? He heard some music he enjoyed, and wanted to perform music like that. Is that stealing?

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Post by megman » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:58 pm

ZZ Top was being sued by John Lee Hookers estate. Hooker's "Boogie chillin'" and ZZ Top's La Grange are way too similar.
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Post by hawkfan8812 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:37 pm

kwebber wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:54 pm
hawkfan8812 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:24 pm
The original thief of American rhythm and blues was The King, Elvis. If Elvis would have gone nowhere, there probably would not be a Rolling Stones and such.
Not that I care anything aboot Elvis Pressley, but why call him a thief? He heard some music he enjoyed, and wanted to perform music like that. Is that stealing?
Yeah, thief was the wrong word.

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Post by Flumper » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:41 pm

i saw an interesting documentary on the roots of country and western music. one thing they touched on was the "stealing" of music back then. They did it without even thinking about it. I mean, it wasn't even considered wrong or bad. It was more like a compliment. If they heard a song and liked it they would either play it like it was or adapt it and even list themselves as the writers. they didn't even have a concept of "owning" a song.

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Post by FreakShowFanatic » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:50 pm

My thoughts are that there are only so many musical notes, beats and chords out there. In other words the possibilities are finite, so it comes down more to the way you present it that will determine your success.

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Post by HighNDry » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:54 pm

FreakShowFanatic wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:50 pm
My thoughts are that there are only so many musical notes, beats and chords out there. In other words the possibilities are finite, so it comes down more to the way you present it that will determine your success.
I want to see the math.
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Post by HighNDry » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:54 pm

BigRedRetard wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm
HighNDry wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:40 pm
Next, you're all going to tell me that Vanilla ice stole the riff from Under Pressure...
Vanilla Ice says its not the same!

Ha! What a fucking troll.
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Post by Charliesheen » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:12 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:16 pm
Just for a quick comparison...Here is Travelin Riverside Blues by Robert Johnson. After is the "same" song so many think Led Zeppelin "stole".

[media] [/media]

[media] [/media]

Personally, I think the "original" is basically unlistenable.
By comparison Ide have to agree. On an unrelated note Neal Pert would fuck up this song. Bonham makes it look so easy.

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Post by Deathproof » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm

I used to think the Hall of Fame was a fucking joke. But then Cheap Trick got in and legitimized it.
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Post by HighNDry » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:48 pm

Deathproof wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm
I used to think the Hall of Fame was a fucking joke. But then Cheap Trick got in and legitimized it.
Legitimized it legitimized it, or legitimized it as a joke?
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HighNDry wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:54 pm
BigRedRetard wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm
HighNDry wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:40 pm
Next, you're all going to tell me that Vanilla ice stole the riff from Under Pressure...
Vanilla Ice says its not the same!

Ha! What a fucking troll.

I LOLed at the end bit. If I recall he had to pay Queen after all was said and done.
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HighNDry wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:48 pm
Deathproof wrote:
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I used to think the Hall of Fame was a fucking joke. But then Cheap Trick got in and legitimized it.
Legitimized it legitimized it, or legitimized it as a joke?
Legitimized it. It's not a rock hall of fame without the greatest rock band to ever exist. It got even more legit when they added Nirvana. Now they just need the Gin Blossoms and they'll have the three best bands of all time, and it will undeniably be a true rock hall of fame.
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Post by HighNDry » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:48 pm

Deathproof wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:45 pm
HighNDry wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:48 pm
Deathproof wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm
I used to think the Hall of Fame was a fucking joke. But then Cheap Trick got in and legitimized it.
Legitimized it legitimized it, or legitimized it as a joke?
Legitimized it. It's not a rock hall of fame without the greatest rock band to ever exist. It got even more legit when they added Nirvana. Now they just need the Gin Blossoms and they'll have the three best bands of all time, and it will undeniably be a true rock hall of fame.
I’ll give you Cheap Trick and Nirvana, but saying the RnR HOF isn’t complete without Gin Blossoms is just crazy talk.
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Post by HighNDry » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:49 pm

JCW wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:47 pm
HighNDry wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:54 pm
BigRedRetard wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:46 pm
HighNDry wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:40 pm
Next, you're all going to tell me that Vanilla ice stole the riff from Under Pressure...
Vanilla Ice says its not the same!

Ha! What a fucking troll.

I LOLed at the end bit. If I recall he had to pay Queen after all was said and done.
I believe you’re right. What a dumbass he was (is).
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