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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:18 pm
by Reservoir Dog
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:16 pm Image
Tommyknockers!!!! My favourite King novel! :D

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:31 pm
by CaptQuint
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:18 pm
megman wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:02 pm
HighNDry wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:01 pm How is The Stand? Worth reading?
Yes. They ruined it with the mini-series but the book is worth it.
I used to have a huge crush on Laura San Giacomo, who was in it.

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Nadine honey, is that you?

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:40 pm
by megman
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:16 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:08 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:04 pm
HighNDry wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:01 pm How is The Stand? Worth reading?
You'll need some time on your hands, it's a doorstop. But yes, I wish I could read it for the first time again. I've read it a dozen times.
"There were worse things than crucifixion. There were teeth."
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Huh. I don't recall that. Just the blue. Must be getting old....

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:51 pm
by HighNDry
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:18 pm
megman wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:02 pm
HighNDry wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:01 pm How is The Stand? Worth reading?
Yes. They ruined it with the mini-series but the book is worth it.
I used to have a huge crush on Laura San Giacomo, who was in it.

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A shame we never got to see those cans in their prime.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:46 am
by CaptQuint
Despite zero confirmed coronavirus cases in New York, restaurants in Chinatown have reported a 70% drop in business over a 10 day period.

https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/m ... us-anxiety

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:07 pm
by CHEEZY17
Been a loooong time since I read The Stand.
I remember thinking the book overall was amazing but I think I was a bit disappointed at the ending. I want to say I remember thinking "This cant be the fucking end?" Even if that is the case I'd still recommend it as the journey to that point was top notch.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:55 pm
by HighNDry
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:07 pm Been a loooong time since I read The Stand.
I remember thinking the book overall was amazing but I think I was a bit disappointed at the ending. I want to say I remember thinking "This cant be the fucking end?" Even if that is the case I'd still recommend it as the journey to that point was top notch.
Isn’t that the gripe with most of his books, though? Books are great but endings usually fall flat. Read The Outsider recently. Absolutely hated the ending.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:29 pm
by Animal
oops. who would have thought that a 3rd world country would have difficulty reporting diseases caused by their people eating rats. 15,000 new cases reported because their testing methods weren't up to par.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:00 pm
by Animal
and....... first confirmed case in texas.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:30 pm
by DiverTexas
Flumper wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:00 pm and....... first confirmed case in texas.
Where?

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:36 pm
by Animal
DiverTexas wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:30 pm
Flumper wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:00 pm and....... first confirmed case in texas.
Where?
San Antonio. Quarantined at Lackland, I think.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:36 pm
by FSchmertz
DiverTexas wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:30 pm
Flumper wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:00 pm and....... first confirmed case in texas.
Where?
San Antonio

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/13 ... -cdc-says/

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:36 pm
by DiverTexas
San Antonio, too damn close.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:39 pm
by Animal
DiverTexas wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:36 pm San Antonio, too damn close.
Well, the good news is that they are "saying" that it isn't transferred by breathing (masks are not required). So, it takes personal contact. Cross touching. And, this person in San Antonio came from china where everyone has it.

They are also saying that once winter ends, it will die off on its own.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:50 pm
by FSchmertz
Flumper wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:29 pm oops. who would have thought that a 3rd world country would have difficulty reporting diseases caused by their people eating rats. 15,000 new cases reported because their testing methods weren't up to par.
China has reported a massive increase in the number of its citizens infected by the new coronavirus, after officials there changed how cases were defined. The numbers now include people who are less seriously ill.
So it's more a matter of reporting milder cases. WHO asked them to include milder cases, because without that they can't accurately determine real fatality rates. The way they were doing it exaggerated the fatality rate.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... -in-a-day/

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:51 pm
by DiverTexas
I heard that as well, warm weather seems to kill off the virus.

Thankfully the patient is under quarantine at Lackland AFB.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:52 pm
by FSchmertz
DiverTexas wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:51 pm I heard that as well, warm weather seems to kill off the virus.
At danger of making this political, I think that "fact" came from Trump.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... oronavirus

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:55 pm
by FSchmertz
DiverTexas wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:51 pmThankfully the patient is under quarantine at Lackland AFB.
Actually, they're now in quarantine in a local San Antonio hospital.
"All people who lived or traveled in Hubei Province, China, are considered at high risk of having been exposed to this virus and are subject to a temporary 14-day quarantine upon entry into the United States," the CDC said in a statement. "This is the first person under quarantine at JBSA-Lackland who had symptoms and tested positive for COVID-19. The individual is currently isolated and receiving medical care at a designated hospital nearby."
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/15th- ... t/2310541/

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:01 pm
by FSchmertz
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:58 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:52 pm
DiverTexas wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:51 pm I heard that as well, warm weather seems to kill off the virus.
At danger of making this political, I think that "fact" came from Trump.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... oronavirus
No sir. Trump is repeating what scientists are saying. The virus will return next winter. Just like the flu.
Nice to be certain about a virus we know next to nothing about yet.

We used to think you couldn't transmit it person to person.

Then we thought even if you could, it wouldn't happen easily.

Then we thought that it had next to no incubation period before you had symptoms, and you couldn't transmit it 'til then.

Imagine what we might know tomorrow, or next year?

Unwise to spout stuff with certainty until we get more information.

P.S. But science and evaluation of same never seemed a strength of his.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:18 pm
by FSchmertz
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:12 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:01 pm
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:58 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:52 pm
DiverTexas wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:51 pm I heard that as well, warm weather seems to kill off the virus.
At danger of making this political, I think that "fact" came from Trump.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... oronavirus
No sir. Trump is repeating what scientists are saying. The virus will return next winter. Just like the flu.
Nice to be certain about a virus we know next to nothing about yet.

We used to think you couldn't transmit it person to person.

Then we thought even if you could, it wouldn't happen easily.

Then we thought that it had next to no incubation period before you had symptoms, and you couldn't transmit it 'til then.

Imagine what we might know tomorrow, or next year?

Unwise to spout stuff with certainty until we get more information.

P.S. But science and evaluation of same never seemed a strength of his.
Scientists are basing this on what they already know about existing coronavirus

https://fortune.com/2020/02/10/coronavi ... er-winter/
You really should read what you post
Meanwhile, Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease and Policy at the University of Minnesota, says it's premature to count on warmer weather impacting this coronavirus' trajectory.

"A lot of people assume that because the SARS epidemic ended in the summer," he says. "We have no idea if that was a coincidence of not. That just may have happened to be the time we controlled it."
So there's lots of doubt, even among experts. So gubmit folks shouldn't issue proclamations.

But folks will hear what they want to hear.

P.S. I hope they're right, maybe it'll give time to create a vaccine?

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:30 pm
by Stapes
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:21 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:18 pm
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:12 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:01 pm
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:58 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:52 pm At danger of making this political, I think that "fact" came from Trump.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... oronavirus
No sir. Trump is repeating what scientists are saying. The virus will return next winter. Just like the flu.
Nice to be certain about a virus we know next to nothing about yet.

We used to think you couldn't transmit it person to person.

Then we thought even if you could, it wouldn't happen easily.

Then we thought that it had next to no incubation period before you had symptoms, and you couldn't transmit it 'til then.

Imagine what we might know tomorrow, or next year?

Unwise to spout stuff with certainty until we get more information.

P.S. But science and evaluation of same never seemed a strength of his.
Scientists are basing this on what they already know about existing coronavirus

https://fortune.com/2020/02/10/coronavi ... er-winter/
You really should read what you post
Meanwhile, Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease and Policy at the University of Minnesota, says it's premature to count on warmer weather impacting this coronavirus' trajectory.

"A lot of people assume that because the SARS epidemic ended in the summer," he says. "We have no idea if that was a coincidence of not. That just may have happened to be the time we controlled it."
So there's lots of doubt, even among experts. So gubmit folks shouldn't issue proclamations.

But folks will hear what they want to hear.

P.S. I hope they're right, maybe it'll give time to create a vaccine?
And you should really read what Trump said.

especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone

Trump is an illiterate moron. Who in God's name would listen to anything he says

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:35 pm
by allwhitemeat
maybe im a bit of a conspiracy theorist who just has a healthy sense of disbelief when it comes to governments, but does anyone wonder if the coronavirus has anything to do with the HIV resistant CRISPR babies made in China from 2018 that everyone has forgotten about. China is trying to use gene introduction technonolgy to make super humans, regardless of what they are telling the world. editing the genes of babies so they are born smarter, with better immune systems, less allergies etc. Pretty sure I saw this episode on Star Trek TNG, and the immune systems of the genetically altered babies responded to a normal virus, mutating it and making it deathly lethal for the un-augmented humans.

I heard reports that China was vaccinating millions of people in early December with an vaccine of unknown purpose, and then The Kung Flu suddenly appeared.

Yes, it sounds crazy, but its also exactly what people feared would happen when you start tinkering with the human immune system. Viruses are different than other organisms, they break themselves down and rebuild themselves based on your body's reaction to the virus, its what a Retro Virus is. And its only a matter of time before a virus meets with the right person to then create a mutated version of itself that NOBODY has a defense against.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:45 pm
by Stapes
I wouldn't put anything past the Chinese government. They consider people as disposable as fried rats and bats.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:56 pm
by allwhitemeat
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:47 pm
Stapes wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:45 pm I wouldn't put anything past the Chinese government. They consider people as disposable as fried rats and bats.
If the Chinese are eating the babies then he may be on to something.
ive actually heard they do eat the babies, or parts of them. crazy culture

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:27 pm
by Antknot
There are 200 in / around Atlanta being monitored. No actual cases but they had travelled to China.