Yes. If you need help with tricky words you only have to ask, you poor moron .Flumper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:51 pmdo you know what the word "all" even means?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:47 pmI see, so all the people who go or are born into poverty were criminals first. Makes a lot of sense.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:51 pmOf course there's a link. Criminality tends to lead to poverty. But poverty is not a causation for crime. It's not like being poor means you have to turn to crime. There are things called "jobs" that are remarkable solutions to poverty. The problem is that lazy and stupid people dont want to work, so they instead turn to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:48 pmYou don't think there's a link between poverty and crime?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:39 pmBecause job loss necessarily leads to gun violence. You're a bright one. You know, because losing your job somehow means you are required to start shooting people.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:30 am The police have not in fact been defunded. Minor point when seeking to blame something for something, but it kinda has to have happened already.
One factor may be petulance on the part of police not doing their jobs as effectively as a go slow protest against being held accountable for what they do, but it's one of a set. The surge in gun purchasing, the pandemic causing massive job losses and economic freefall, and the general perception that US society and institutions are breaking down into anarchy under the clown presidency. Then there's more speculative potential factors, just pulled from my ass here, but did your thriving and entrepeneurial drug dealing community manage to hold them corners during lockdown? Some fool try to take yo corner, yo knows yo gotta throw down.
I'd go with the surge in gun sales and the economic disaster as the prime movers behind the surge in gun violence, but it'll be a while before the evidence is in. One thing's for sure, no surge in gun violence in countries with proper gun control.
Poverty doesnt lead to crime. Laziness and stupidity do.
When will Democrats admit the Police aren't the Problem?
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Re: When will Democrats admit the Police aren't the Problem?
Not even remotely what I said. I cant tell if you're being deliberately stupid or if you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:47 pmI see, so all the people who go or are born into poverty were criminals first. Makes a lot of sense.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:51 pmOf course there's a link. Criminality tends to lead to poverty. But poverty is not a causation for crime. It's not like being poor means you have to turn to crime. There are things called "jobs" that are remarkable solutions to poverty. The problem is that lazy and stupid people dont want to work, so they instead turn to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:48 pmYou don't think there's a link between poverty and crime?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:39 pmBecause job loss necessarily leads to gun violence. You're a bright one. You know, because losing your job somehow means you are required to start shooting people.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:30 am The police have not in fact been defunded. Minor point when seeking to blame something for something, but it kinda has to have happened already.
One factor may be petulance on the part of police not doing their jobs as effectively as a go slow protest against being held accountable for what they do, but it's one of a set. The surge in gun purchasing, the pandemic causing massive job losses and economic freefall, and the general perception that US society and institutions are breaking down into anarchy under the clown presidency. Then there's more speculative potential factors, just pulled from my ass here, but did your thriving and entrepeneurial drug dealing community manage to hold them corners during lockdown? Some fool try to take yo corner, yo knows yo gotta throw down.
I'd go with the surge in gun sales and the economic disaster as the prime movers behind the surge in gun violence, but it'll be a while before the evidence is in. One thing's for sure, no surge in gun violence in countries with proper gun control.
Poverty doesnt lead to crime. Laziness and stupidity do.
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Go to the 7:00 mark to see these peaceful protesters engaging the police that came out to investigate a multiple shooting.
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Well let's walk you through it. You concede a link between poverty and crime, but deny poverty is a cause of crime because you assert the crime comes first and leads to poverty. Can you follow that?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pmNot even remotely what I said. I cant tell if you're being deliberately stupid or if you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:47 pmI see, so all the people who go or are born into poverty were criminals first. Makes a lot of sense.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:51 pmOf course there's a link. Criminality tends to lead to poverty. But poverty is not a causation for crime. It's not like being poor means you have to turn to crime. There are things called "jobs" that are remarkable solutions to poverty. The problem is that lazy and stupid people dont want to work, so they instead turn to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:48 pmYou don't think there's a link between poverty and crime?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:39 pmBecause job loss necessarily leads to gun violence. You're a bright one. You know, because losing your job somehow means you are required to start shooting people.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:30 am The police have not in fact been defunded. Minor point when seeking to blame something for something, but it kinda has to have happened already.
One factor may be petulance on the part of police not doing their jobs as effectively as a go slow protest against being held accountable for what they do, but it's one of a set. The surge in gun purchasing, the pandemic causing massive job losses and economic freefall, and the general perception that US society and institutions are breaking down into anarchy under the clown presidency. Then there's more speculative potential factors, just pulled from my ass here, but did your thriving and entrepeneurial drug dealing community manage to hold them corners during lockdown? Some fool try to take yo corner, yo knows yo gotta throw down.
I'd go with the surge in gun sales and the economic disaster as the prime movers behind the surge in gun violence, but it'll be a while before the evidence is in. One thing's for sure, no surge in gun violence in countries with proper gun control.
Poverty doesnt lead to crime. Laziness and stupidity do.
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I said crime tends to lead to poverty. Nowhere did I say that poverty is caused by crime. And nowhere did I say that all poverty is the result of crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:02 pmWell let's walk you through it. You concede a link between poverty and crime, but deny poverty is a cause of crime because you assert the crime comes first and leads to poverty. Can you follow that?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pmNot even remotely what I said. I cant tell if you're being deliberately stupid or if you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:47 pmI see, so all the people who go or are born into poverty were criminals first. Makes a lot of sense.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:51 pmOf course there's a link. Criminality tends to lead to poverty. But poverty is not a causation for crime. It's not like being poor means you have to turn to crime. There are things called "jobs" that are remarkable solutions to poverty. The problem is that lazy and stupid people dont want to work, so they instead turn to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:48 pmYou don't think there's a link between poverty and crime?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:39 pm
Because job loss necessarily leads to gun violence. You're a bright one. You know, because losing your job somehow means you are required to start shooting people.
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So poverty is linked to crime but the only way you can link them is to say the crime comes first and causes the poverty because it can't be the other way around?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:07 pmI said crime tends to lead to poverty. Nowhere did I say that poverty is caused by crime. And nowhere did I say that all poverty is the result of crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:02 pmWell let's walk you through it. You concede a link between poverty and crime, but deny poverty is a cause of crime because you assert the crime comes first and leads to poverty. Can you follow that?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pmNot even remotely what I said. I cant tell if you're being deliberately stupid or if you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:47 pmI see, so all the people who go or are born into poverty were criminals first. Makes a lot of sense.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:51 pmOf course there's a link. Criminality tends to lead to poverty. But poverty is not a causation for crime. It's not like being poor means you have to turn to crime. There are things called "jobs" that are remarkable solutions to poverty. The problem is that lazy and stupid people dont want to work, so they instead turn to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:48 pm
You don't think there's a link between poverty and crime?
Poverty doesnt lead to crime. Laziness and stupidity do.
Takes us back to my first mocking comment.
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You're in no position to mock. The only way to link them is to say the crime comes first. Because while crime often -- not always, but usually -- leads to poverty as an unavoidable result, poverty does not lead to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:11 pmSo poverty is linked to crime but the only way you can link them is to say the crime comes first and causes the poverty because it can't be the other way around?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:07 pmI said crime tends to lead to poverty. Nowhere did I say that poverty is caused by crime. And nowhere did I say that all poverty is the result of crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:02 pmWell let's walk you through it. You concede a link between poverty and crime, but deny poverty is a cause of crime because you assert the crime comes first and leads to poverty. Can you follow that?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pmNot even remotely what I said. I cant tell if you're being deliberately stupid or if you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:47 pmI see, so all the people who go or are born into poverty were criminals first. Makes a lot of sense.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:51 pm
Of course there's a link. Criminality tends to lead to poverty. But poverty is not a causation for crime. It's not like being poor means you have to turn to crime. There are things called "jobs" that are remarkable solutions to poverty. The problem is that lazy and stupid people dont want to work, so they instead turn to crime.
Poverty doesnt lead to crime. Laziness and stupidity do.
Takes us back to my first mocking comment.
The difference is in the chain of events. In scenario 1, a moron commits a crime and goes to jail. If he had a job, he likely loses it. Then, when he is released, he now has a criminal record and it is harder for him to get a job, and thus he likely earns no money and becomes pov. Ergo, crime led to poverty.
In scenario 2, a man in poverty doesnt have to turn to crime. He can instead go get a fucking job, which is the better response to poverty.
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Poverty does lead to crime. This is really not a controversial statement.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:55 pmYou're in no position to mock. The only way to link them is to say the crime comes first. Because while crime often -- not always, but usually -- leads to poverty as an unavoidable result, poverty does not lead to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:11 pmSo poverty is linked to crime but the only way you can link them is to say the crime comes first and causes the poverty because it can't be the other way around?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:07 pmI said crime tends to lead to poverty. Nowhere did I say that poverty is caused by crime. And nowhere did I say that all poverty is the result of crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:02 pmWell let's walk you through it. You concede a link between poverty and crime, but deny poverty is a cause of crime because you assert the crime comes first and leads to poverty. Can you follow that?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pmNot even remotely what I said. I cant tell if you're being deliberately stupid or if you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:47 pm
I see, so all the people who go or are born into poverty were criminals first. Makes a lot of sense.
Takes us back to my first mocking comment.
The difference is in the chain of events. In scenario 1, a moron commits a crime and goes to jail. If he had a job, he likely loses it. Then, when he is released, he now has a criminal record and it is harder for him to get a job, and thus he likely earns no money and becomes pov. Ergo, crime led to poverty.
In scenario 2, a man in poverty doesnt have to turn to crime. He can instead go get a fucking job, which is the better response to poverty.
Your declaration that you know crime leads to poverty but poverty does not lead to crime is political dimwittery, not an evidence based assertion. A man in poverty doesn't have to turn to crime, he's just more likely to.
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Except poverty doesn't lead to crime. The choice to turn to crime is what leads to crime. That's all. That's just a fact. To say otherwise is to imply there is no other option.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:24 pmPoverty does lead to crime. This is really not a controversial statement.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:55 pmYou're in no position to mock. The only way to link them is to say the crime comes first. Because while crime often -- not always, but usually -- leads to poverty as an unavoidable result, poverty does not lead to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:11 pmSo poverty is linked to crime but the only way you can link them is to say the crime comes first and causes the poverty because it can't be the other way around?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:07 pmI said crime tends to lead to poverty. Nowhere did I say that poverty is caused by crime. And nowhere did I say that all poverty is the result of crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:02 pmWell let's walk you through it. You concede a link between poverty and crime, but deny poverty is a cause of crime because you assert the crime comes first and leads to poverty. Can you follow that?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:57 pm
Not even remotely what I said. I cant tell if you're being deliberately stupid or if you just lack basic reading comprehension skills.
Takes us back to my first mocking comment.
The difference is in the chain of events. In scenario 1, a moron commits a crime and goes to jail. If he had a job, he likely loses it. Then, when he is released, he now has a criminal record and it is harder for him to get a job, and thus he likely earns no money and becomes pov. Ergo, crime led to poverty.
In scenario 2, a man in poverty doesnt have to turn to crime. He can instead go get a fucking job, which is the better response to poverty.
Your declaration that you know crime leads to poverty but poverty does not lead to crime is political dimwittery, not an evidence based assertion. A man in poverty doesn't have to turn to crime, he's just more likely to.
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Do you think people in poverty are more or less likely to turn to crime?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:28 pmExcept poverty doesn't lead to crime. The choice to turn to crime is what leads to crime. That's all. That's just a fact. To say otherwise is to imply there is no other option.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:24 pmPoverty does lead to crime. This is really not a controversial statement.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:55 pmYou're in no position to mock. The only way to link them is to say the crime comes first. Because while crime often -- not always, but usually -- leads to poverty as an unavoidable result, poverty does not lead to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:11 pmSo poverty is linked to crime but the only way you can link them is to say the crime comes first and causes the poverty because it can't be the other way around?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:07 pmI said crime tends to lead to poverty. Nowhere did I say that poverty is caused by crime. And nowhere did I say that all poverty is the result of crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:02 pm
Well let's walk you through it. You concede a link between poverty and crime, but deny poverty is a cause of crime because you assert the crime comes first and leads to poverty. Can you follow that?
Takes us back to my first mocking comment.
The difference is in the chain of events. In scenario 1, a moron commits a crime and goes to jail. If he had a job, he likely loses it. Then, when he is released, he now has a criminal record and it is harder for him to get a job, and thus he likely earns no money and becomes pov. Ergo, crime led to poverty.
In scenario 2, a man in poverty doesnt have to turn to crime. He can instead go get a fucking job, which is the better response to poverty.
Your declaration that you know crime leads to poverty but poverty does not lead to crime is political dimwittery, not an evidence based assertion. A man in poverty doesn't have to turn to crime, he's just more likely to.
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Re: When will Democrats admit the Police aren't the Problem?
since they were likely raised by criminals that ended up in poverty, yes.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:31 pm
Do you think people in poverty are more or less likely to turn to crime?
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More likely. However, that isnt because they're pov. More than likely, they turn to crime because they're fucking lazy, which is probably how they became pov as well.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:31 pmDo you think people in poverty are more or less likely to turn to crime?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:28 pmExcept poverty doesn't lead to crime. The choice to turn to crime is what leads to crime. That's all. That's just a fact. To say otherwise is to imply there is no other option.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:24 pmPoverty does lead to crime. This is really not a controversial statement.Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:55 pmYou're in no position to mock. The only way to link them is to say the crime comes first. Because while crime often -- not always, but usually -- leads to poverty as an unavoidable result, poverty does not lead to crime.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:11 pmSo poverty is linked to crime but the only way you can link them is to say the crime comes first and causes the poverty because it can't be the other way around?Deathproof wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:07 pm
I said crime tends to lead to poverty. Nowhere did I say that poverty is caused by crime. And nowhere did I say that all poverty is the result of crime.
Takes us back to my first mocking comment.
The difference is in the chain of events. In scenario 1, a moron commits a crime and goes to jail. If he had a job, he likely loses it. Then, when he is released, he now has a criminal record and it is harder for him to get a job, and thus he likely earns no money and becomes pov. Ergo, crime led to poverty.
In scenario 2, a man in poverty doesnt have to turn to crime. He can instead go get a fucking job, which is the better response to poverty.
Your declaration that you know crime leads to poverty but poverty does not lead to crime is political dimwittery, not an evidence based assertion. A man in poverty doesn't have to turn to crime, he's just more likely to.
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Those raised in a culture that puts crime before education tend to live the "thug life".
Funny how that works...
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Remember that Democrat HQ that got burned down and everybody blamed conservatives? Turns out it was a former volunteer staffer that worked there. WHOOPSIE!
Phoenix Police Make Arrest in Connection With Fire at Democratic Party Headquarters
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"The Phoenix Police Department has arrested a man in connection with a fire at the Maricopa County Democratic Party office building.
Matthew Egler was arrested Wednesday morning on arson charges. The 29-year-old was a former volunteer at the office but had recently been banned from continued volunteer service"
Phoenix Police Make Arrest in Connection With Fire at Democratic Party Headquarters
https://www.phoenix.gov/newsroom/police/1428
"The Phoenix Police Department has arrested a man in connection with a fire at the Maricopa County Democratic Party office building.
Matthew Egler was arrested Wednesday morning on arson charges. The 29-year-old was a former volunteer at the office but had recently been banned from continued volunteer service"
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Gee, wonder why he was banned
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Another example of the Democrats and the Taliban being on the same page.
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Re: When will Democrats admit the Police aren't the Problem?
I wonder why this story didn't get more coverage?