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Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:33 am
by DandyDon
Coal loses another battle, despite Trump

Last week the Tennessee Valley Authority voted to close the 49-year-old Paradise Fossil Unit 3 coal-fired generating plant in western Kentucky, citing operating costs, the need for repairs and “flat to declining” load. The board’s 5-2 vote came despite appeals from Trump to keep the plant and others like it open.

According to a U.S. Energy Information Administration report, the percentage of U.S. electricity generated by coal dropped 21 percent between 2008 and 2018.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/0 ... /23672261/

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:03 am
by stymiegreen
Trump made a campaign promise Don. And he wouldn't dream of letting any of these people down. If he says coal will make a resurgence then it will make a resurgence...and that's that. Reality and Trump Reality are two totally different things.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:20 am
by AnalHamster
Well come on now, it's hardly trump's fault if the executives running that plant are enemies of the people. They're probably colluding with Clinton.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:42 am
by CaptQuint
Perhaps there is some Federal Government Orphan Fund Trump can pilfer and reopen the coal plant with some cockamamie emergency

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:42 pm
by AnalHamster
Fuck trump for bullshitting them about what he could do for their industry, yes. He duped the poor dupes, and now he doesn't even have the decency to declare an emergency and give them money congress allocated for something else. Just sloppy presidenting.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:44 pm
by CaptQuint

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:55 pm
by CaptQuint
Last week the Tennessee Valley Authority voted to close the 49-year-old Paradise Fossil Unit 3 coal-fired generating plant in western Kentucky, citing operating costs, the need for repairs and “flat to declining” load.

Amnesia Biker rejects capitalism

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:57 pm
by AnalHamster
It is important to keep calling out trump's lies and failures, he can do a lot less damage with eroding support. He caved on the wall and the shutdown because his polling suffered, he's in the process of caving on the next wave of china tariffs because someone finally got it through to him that he'd be fucking his base again. Getting through to the trump cucks requires endless repetition, because they're pretty dumb and delusional to be trump cucks in the first place.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:58 pm
by AnalHamster
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:56 pm
captquint wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:55 pm Last week the Tennessee Valley Authority voted to close the 49-year-old Paradise Fossil Unit 3 coal-fired generating plant in western Kentucky, citing operating costs, the need for repairs and “flat to declining” load.

Amnesia Biker rejects capitalism
No, I just find it sick that you people celebrate people losing their livelihoods just so you can stick it to Trump
You are the only person in the thread who did that.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:04 pm
by CaptQuint
I remember how upset Trump was when journalists lost their livelihoods



Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:05 pm
by CaptQuint

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:08 pm
by CaptQuint

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:17 pm
by CaptQuint
Instead of federal programs or initiatives that could have helped them transition to different jobs or more modern energy production Trump gave them coal today coal tomorrow coal forever.

Hillary Clinton suggests those jobs are not coming back. "The way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs," she said Monday. Rather than reversing Obama's climate agenda, as Republicans have promised to do, Clinton wants to help coal country adapt. The $30 billion plan she released last fall calls for increased job training, small-business development, and infrastructure investment, especially in Appalachia. The plan also seeks to safeguard miners' healthcare and pensions. "I have been talking about helping coal country for a very long time," Clinton said this week.

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/03/47648565 ... -coal-jobs

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:54 pm
by AnalHamster
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:52 pm
analhamster wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:58 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:56 pm
captquint wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:55 pm Last week the Tennessee Valley Authority voted to close the 49-year-old Paradise Fossil Unit 3 coal-fired generating plant in western Kentucky, citing operating costs, the need for repairs and “flat to declining” load.

Amnesia Biker rejects capitalism
No, I just find it sick that you people celebrate people losing their livelihoods just so you can stick it to Trump
You are the only person in the thread who did that.
Nope, its the left that says it doesnt mind economic pain for people so long as Trump is damaged politically
Again, that would be you saying that. Sicko.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:57 pm
by stymiegreen
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:56 pm
captquint wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:55 pm Last week the Tennessee Valley Authority voted to close the 49-year-old Paradise Fossil Unit 3 coal-fired generating plant in western Kentucky, citing operating costs, the need for repairs and “flat to declining” load.

Amnesia Biker rejects capitalism
No, I just find it sick that you people celebrate people losing their livelihoods just so you can stick it to Trump
And when the original Shutdown was going on and neither you nor Trump gave half a fuck about those shitty government workers who we don't need anyway getting royally screwed...now you're trying to show up acting like you care about people's jobs? Yet another instance where you are painfully unaware of your own lack of credibility.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:03 pm
by AnalHamster
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:56 pm
You consistently make this mistake of 'the left' and 'the media' like it's all one thing and anyone saying anything speaks for all. It's a sign of a weak and feeble mind.

What Libertarian Bill Maher said was a recession would be the fastest way to get rid of trump and less damaging than the damage trump would otherwise be doing. I'd say that's broadly correct, if trump hadn't been riding the obama recovery he wouldn't have had the blind support to do half the crazy shit he's been doing.
https://deadline.com/2018/06/bill-maher ... 202415907/

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:03 pm
by CaptQuint
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Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:07 pm
by CaptQuint
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:04 pm
captquint wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:17 pm Instead of federal programs or initiatives that could have helped them transition to different jobs or more modern energy production Trump gave them coal today coal tomorrow coal forever.

Hillary Clinton suggests those jobs are not coming back. "The way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs," she said Monday. Rather than reversing Obama's climate agenda, as Republicans have promised to do, Clinton wants to help coal country adapt. The $30 billion plan she released last fall calls for increased job training, small-business development, and infrastructure investment, especially in Appalachia. The plan also seeks to safeguard miners' healthcare and pensions. "I have been talking about helping coal country for a very long time," Clinton said this week.

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/03/47648565 ... -coal-jobs
There are plenty of programs already that help transition workers. But coal is a cheap fuel and it can be burned cleanly. I think we'd be better off mandating new, clean coal technology while at the same time develop alternative energies. I know, too reasonable
Blatant lies

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:12 pm
by CaptQuint
Natural Gas is the agent of coal's destruction. Gas plants have less than half the emissions and are cheaper.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:14 pm
by AnalHamster
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:05 pm
analhamster wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:03 pm You consistently make this mistake of 'the left' and 'the media' like it's all one thing
It is the same thing, and thats a large part of the problem
That is simply a delusional statement.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:21 pm
by stymiegreen
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:02 pm
stymiegreen wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:57 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:56 pm
captquint wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:55 pm Last week the Tennessee Valley Authority voted to close the 49-year-old Paradise Fossil Unit 3 coal-fired generating plant in western Kentucky, citing operating costs, the need for repairs and “flat to declining” load.

Amnesia Biker rejects capitalism
No, I just find it sick that you people celebrate people losing their livelihoods just so you can stick it to Trump
And when the original Shutdown was going on and neither you nor Trump gave half a fuck about those shitty government workers who we don't need anyway getting royally screwed...now you're trying to show up acting like you care about people's jobs? Yet another instance where you are painfully unaware of your own lack of credibility.
Nonsense. I had empathy for the workers and its why I deplored the Dems for causing the shutdown to begin with
Gee...another instance where you actually ignore Trump's own words where he said he'd take blame for the shutdown just to blame it on the Dems....AGAIN. You wouldn't blame Trump if he slapped you in the face and told you it was the wind blowing. Lulz. Trump-cuck gon' cuck.

Re: Well imagine that

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:22 pm
by AnalHamster
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:17 pm
analhamster wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:14 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:05 pm
analhamster wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:03 pm You consistently make this mistake of 'the left' and 'the media' like it's all one thing
It is the same thing, and thats a large part of the problem
That is simply a delusional statement.
If you deny that the media is overwhelmingly left wing, then we have nothing further to discuss. Its not even a debate anymore
Ah the part where you shift the goalposts then run away. How very out of character for you.

There is in fact a spectrum in the media, with a left wing, a right wing and a centre. The most watched news network in the US is Fox, which is on the right. The outlets I prefer are in the middle.