Why get rid of the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1?

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Re: Why get rid of the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1?

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Animal wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:18 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:11 pm Kinda gotta go with flumpy on that one, it is by definition.
but hey, Joe is going to pass a huge infrastructure plan. and supply millions of jobs. wait. those are construction jobs which don't count since building a highway isn't a permanent job or anything. nevermind.
Biden does have an infrastructure plan you know, it's just not based on the dying fossil fuels industry. How many infratructure weeks did chump have without getting shit done? His infrastructure legacy is part of a pipeline and a very short fence. Day 5 is a little soon to be declaring Biden hasn't helped build any infrastructure. Day 1466 kinda is enough time to declare trump didn't do shit on this.
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Re: Why get rid of the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1?

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AnalHamster wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:22 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:18 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:11 pm Kinda gotta go with flumpy on that one, it is by definition.
but hey, Joe is going to pass a huge infrastructure plan. and supply millions of jobs. wait. those are construction jobs which don't count since building a highway isn't a permanent job or anything. nevermind.
Biden does have an infrastructure plan you know, it's just not based on the dying fossil fuels industry. How many infratructure weeks did chump have without getting shit done? His infrastructure legacy is part of a pipeline and a very short fence. Day 5 is a little soon to be declaring Biden hasn't helped build any infrastructure. Day 1466 kinda is enough time to declare trump didn't do shit on this.
No, I absolutely think that Biden will do an infrastructure plan. I'm just saying that his logic for cancelling the Pipeline was that all it provided were construction jobs which don't count since they aren't permanent jobs. So by cancelling the pipeline he wasn't really cancelling any real jobs.

Surely you can see the hypocrisy in that.

As far as Trump, he was definitely wanting to pass an infrastructure plan. And would have in that last year if not for Covid and all of the bailout plans that required. I'm in that business, and everyone was banking on an infrastructure bill to be passed in 2020 (pre-covid that is).
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Re: Why get rid of the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1?

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Trump was just incompetent, he didn't plan, he didn't typically employ people who could. You didn't grasp that over the last 4 years? He was just a bad manager. It's why his businesses have always gone tits up.

Biden's logic on the pipeline is presumably that climate change is actually a real thing after all, and a horribly expensive thing, and the future tech to invest in is not the old tech causing the problem. Do you want China to be the superpower this century?
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AnalHamster wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:38 pm Trump was just incompetent, he didn't plan, he didn't typically employ people who could. You didn't grasp that over the last 4 years? He was just a bad manager. It's why his businesses have always gone tits up.

Biden's logic on the pipeline is presumably that climate change is actually a real thing after all, and a horribly expensive thing, and the future tech to invest in is not the old tech causing the problem. Do you want China to be the superpower this century?
does biden's logic take into consideration that no matter what kind of green deals come along under his watch that he is going to be tied to oil consumption for at least the rest of his lifetime? and probably at least the rest of the lifetime of every person in Washington DC right now. Green stuff is great and everyone is for it, but don't shut down the shit we need in the mean time. that is stupid.
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Animal wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:43 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:38 pm Trump was just incompetent, he didn't plan, he didn't typically employ people who could. You didn't grasp that over the last 4 years? He was just a bad manager. It's why his businesses have always gone tits up.

Biden's logic on the pipeline is presumably that climate change is actually a real thing after all, and a horribly expensive thing, and the future tech to invest in is not the old tech causing the problem. Do you want China to be the superpower this century?
does biden's logic take into consideration that no matter what kind of green deals come along under his watch that he is going to be tied to oil consumption for at least the rest of his lifetime? and probably at least the rest of the lifetime of every person in Washington DC right now. Green stuff is great and everyone is for it, but don't shut down the shit we need in the mean time. that is stupid.
It is not being shut down, it just doesn't need to be expanded. Electric cars are on course to be overtaking petrol by 2025 in terms of price, the cost of renewables per megawatt hour is dropping below fossil fuels. You're behind the times grampy, the future is no longer in filthy canadian oil.
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Re: Why get rid of the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1?

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Grampa Joe could have not only cost the US all those jobs but now he could potentially cost US taxpayers as well. What a fucking clown.

TC Energy seeks more than $15 bln in damages from U.S. over Keystone XL
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 021-07-02/
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It's fine, Trump will pay the bill
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More "overperforming?" After Keystone XL cancelation, we're now importing more oil from Russia
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/01/23 ... ia-n443494
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Obviously Russia rigged the election and helped Joe get elected so that they could sell more oil and cancel the Keystone. Collusion is written all over it. We need an investigation.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:03 pm More "overperforming?" After Keystone XL cancelation, we're now importing more oil from Russia
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/01/23 ... ia-n443494
Couple that with shutting down exploration on federal lands. What could go wrong?
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I know that I, for one, am comforted knowing that the man that won't stand up to AOC and the other green progressives is the same man we expect to stand up to the leader of Russia and China.
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Animal wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:32 pm I know that I, for one, am comforted knowing that the man that won't stand up to AOC and the other green progressives is the same man we expect to stand up to the leader of Russia and China.
Days after his inauguration the guy who said he'd be "tough on China" literally had members of his administration that were in China bend over so the Chinese could anal swab their assholes. Neither Putin or Xi is worried about this clown.
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