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About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:58 pm
by CaptQuint
About a dozen mature trees and additional shrubs were cut down and dumped into the Potomac River from Trump National Golf Course property last week, an action that Loudoun County officials say could violate local ordinances covering work on floodplains.

The downed trees were spotted last Saturday by Steven Mckone, director of the Calleva River School, as he kayaked the river and turned into the George Washington Canal, a bypass often used by boaters to avoid a dam that blocks the river. Tree trunks, limbs and branches clogged the smaller passage.

“It was very fresh, the sawdust wasn’t even wet yet,” Mckone said. “Normally when people remove trees, they take the trees out, but these were dumped right in the river.”

Trees in a waterway can create dangerous conditions, where currents can pull watercraft into the branches, then trap boaters underwater in what is known as a strainer effect. In addition, trees along river banks are among the best ways to protect water quality and aquatic life, and prevent erosion, environmentalists say.


The general manager of the Trump property referred all questions to the organization’s corporate office, which did not respond to requests for an explanation or comment.

Loudoun public affairs officer Glen Barbour said the county’s urban forester and representatives from its planning and zoning office visited the site Thursday.


Land along the Potomac River in the Trump National Golf Club near Sterling, Va., where trees were cut.
“Based on the initial observation, I am told that there appears to be an issue with a number of trees removed from the flood plain, which would require a permit prior to any operation,” Barbour said. “The county is currently determining whether a violation of the ordinance occurred, and if so, what the appropriate course of action would be.”

Potomac Riverkeeper Network employees Dean Naujoks and Phillip Musegaas took a jetboat to the property earlier this week to see the situation for themselves. They said they saw about a dozen stumps with diameters of 14 to 24 inches, indicating mature and healthy trees, and trunks discarded along the shoreline.


The clear-cut was just off the fairways of the golf course, in what had been a small copse, Naujoks said. He and Musegaas reportedthe situation to local and state officials.

“Clear-cutting large trees this close to the river will undoubtedly impact the river,” said Musegaas, vice president of programs and litigation for the organization.

The cut trees could pose a safety hazard for paddlers, he said, while rain and high water could flush exposed sediment in the river. “Bad for the river, and bad for people who use it,” Musegaas said.


The riverbank, with tree stumps visible. (Dean Naujoks/Potomac Riverkeepers Network)
In 2010, the Trump club removed more than 400 trees from its property when it renovated its courses, upsetting environmentalists and drawing some concern from Loudoun officials. That project also included efforts to clean up the riverbank, which was polluted with trash and debris, Trump officials said at the time.


Nine months later, Trump told a Washington Post reporter that the tree removal was done to create a better view.
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“It was done so that people utilizing the services of the club — of which there are 1,000 members, it’s a very successful club — could have unobstructed views of the river, and because it was an environmental enhancement,” Trump said at the time.

At the time, the county considered but never enacted the Chesapeake Bay Preservation Act, which would have protected a 75-foot buffer along its riverfront, as Fairfax County and other jurisdictions do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vi ... f6a2eec3ed

Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:11 pm
by CaptQuint
Donald Trump has Civil War plaque at his golf course commemorating battle that never happened

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We all play golf courses that feature various memorials to people and events: benches, flagpoles, that sort of thing. At my home club, for instance, there's a stone marker honoring the memory of a longtime starter at the club from decades earlier.

Call me naive, but I've always operated under the assumption that this was at one point an actual person.

It's worth reconsidering only because of a New York Times report from November 2015 that says Donald Trump's Northern Virginia Trump National Golf Club features a plaque between the 14th and 15th holes honoring a Civil War battle at that precise spot. The inscription, signed by Trump, reads:

Credit: New York Times

“Many great American soldiers, both of the North and South, died at this spot. The casualties were so great that the water would turn red and thus became known as ‘The River of Blood.’ It is my great honor to have preserved this important section of the Potomac River!”

Nice sentiment, small problem: there apparently was no such battle.

The Times checked with various historians in the area who had trouble tying the site of Trump's course to any such event.

“No. Uh-uh. No way. Nothing like that ever happened there,” Richard Gillespie, the executive director of the Mosby Heritage Area Association, told the Times.

Gillespie went on to say the closest thing to what Trump was describing was a battle 11 miles up the river in 1861. “The River of Blood?” he said. “Nope, not there.”

During his campaign, Trump questioned how historians could dispute the battle. "How would they know," he told the Times. "Were they there?"

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/detail ... r-happened

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/p ... story.html

https://mashable.com/2017/05/02/trump-civil-war-golf/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_of_Blood_(monument)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donal ... -monument/

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Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:19 pm
by CaptQuint
Biker wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:18 pm So the battle took place, just not in that exact location. Got it

#TDS
Many great American soldiers, both of the North and South, died at this spot


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Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:25 pm
by Stapes
I'm surprised the plaque doesn't say George Washington crossed there and played a round.

Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:35 pm
by CaptQuint
Stapes wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:25 pm I'm surprised the plaque doesn't say George Washington crossed there and played a round.
Sadly, the few soldiers who did survive lived only to eventually die in the Bowling Green massacre.

Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:54 pm
by CHEEZY17
Save the trees!!!1!1!!!1!

Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:00 pm
by CaptQuint
CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:54 pm The law does not apply to Trumpy! Cut down healthy and dump them in the river instead of hauling them away!!! I love when rich people do the wrong thing and endanger the public!
In 2010, the Trump club removed more than 400 trees from its property when it renovated its courses, upsetting environmentalists and drawing some concern from Loudoun officials. That project also included efforts to clean up the riverbank, which was polluted with trash and debris, Trump officials said at the time.

Nine months later, Trump told a Washington Post reporter that the tree removal was done to create a better view.

“It was done so that people utilizing the services of the club — of which there are 1,000 members, it’s a very successful club — could have unobstructed views of the river, and because it was an environmental enhancement,” Trump said at the time.

Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:09 pm
by Stapes
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Stapes wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:25 pm I'm surprised the plaque doesn't say George Washington crossed there and played a round.
Sadly, the few soldiers who did survive lived only to eventually die in the Bowling Green massacre.
Wow. I forgot about that one. So many lies it just becomes white noise.

Re: About a dozen trees cut, dumped into Potomac River at Trump golf club in Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:11 pm
by CaptQuint
Stapes wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:09 pm
captquint wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Stapes wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:25 pm I'm surprised the plaque doesn't say George Washington crossed there and played a round.
Sadly, the few soldiers who did survive lived only to eventually die in the Bowling Green massacre.
Wow. I forgot about that one. So many lies it just becomes white noise.
This was the most attended inauguration PERIOD!!!!!!!