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saltydog wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:16 pm
Left out the “and train” out of his proposal.
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Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:26 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:16 pm
Left out the “and train” out of his proposal.
Just don't let the same people train them that trained that Uvalde ISD police chief, huh?
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Animal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:06 pm
Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:26 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:16 pm
Left out the “and train” out of his proposal.
Just don't let the same people train them that trained that Uvalde ISD police chief, huh?
No expert here, but, I'd expect teacher training to be safety and defensive as opposed to breaching tactics. Safety: When to shoot vs hide, awareness of what is behind target, etc. Situation driven: What to do If in a classroom, or in an auditorium, or playground (do schools still have those?)
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Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:09 pm No expert here, but, I'd expect teacher training to be safety and defensive as opposed to breaching tactics. Safety: When to shoot vs hide, awareness of what is behind target, etc. Situation driven: What to do If in a classroom, or in an auditorium, or playground (do schools still have those?)
And I'm certainly no expert either, but I would think the chief of police in charge of an active shooting scene at an elementary school would be trained to separate the shooter from the children as quickly as possible and at any cost. Maybe its not.
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Animal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:33 pm
Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:09 pm No expert here, but, I'd expect teacher training to be safety and defensive as opposed to breaching tactics. Safety: When to shoot vs hide, awareness of what is behind target, etc. Situation driven: What to do If in a classroom, or in an auditorium, or playground (do schools still have those?)
And I'm certainly no expert either, but I would think the chief of police in charge of an active shooting scene at an elementary school would be trained to separate the shooter from the children as quickly as possible and at any cost. Maybe its not.
You confuse training with bravery.
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Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:41 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:33 pm
Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:09 pm No expert here, but, I'd expect teacher training to be safety and defensive as opposed to breaching tactics. Safety: When to shoot vs hide, awareness of what is behind target, etc. Situation driven: What to do If in a classroom, or in an auditorium, or playground (do schools still have those?)
And I'm certainly no expert either, but I would think the chief of police in charge of an active shooting scene at an elementary school would be trained to separate the shooter from the children as quickly as possible and at any cost. Maybe its not.
You confuse training with bravery.
I doubt it. Because the police chief making the call wouldn't have been the one going inside.
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Animal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:47 pm
Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:41 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:33 pm
Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:09 pm No expert here, but, I'd expect teacher training to be safety and defensive as opposed to breaching tactics. Safety: When to shoot vs hide, awareness of what is behind target, etc. Situation driven: What to do If in a classroom, or in an auditorium, or playground (do schools still have those?)
And I'm certainly no expert either, but I would think the chief of police in charge of an active shooting scene at an elementary school would be trained to separate the shooter from the children as quickly as possible and at any cost. Maybe its not.
You confuse training with bravery.
I doubt it. Because the police chief making the call wouldn't have been the one going inside.
Was he the one elected to some other office but not sworn in at the time?
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I'm no expert either, but most of what I have read and heard about law enforcement training has said that it is most important to preserve the life of the officer first.
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Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:13 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:47 pm
Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:41 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:33 pm
Antknot wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:09 pm No expert here, but, I'd expect teacher training to be safety and defensive as opposed to breaching tactics. Safety: When to shoot vs hide, awareness of what is behind target, etc. Situation driven: What to do If in a classroom, or in an auditorium, or playground (do schools still have those?)
And I'm certainly no expert either, but I would think the chief of police in charge of an active shooting scene at an elementary school would be trained to separate the shooter from the children as quickly as possible and at any cost. Maybe its not.
You confuse training with bravery.
I doubt it. Because the police chief making the call wouldn't have been the one going inside.
Was he the one elected to some other office but not sworn in at the time?
i think he was elected to city council. and he was not sworn in at the city council meeting, but he was sworn in with a private ceremony later. The city said that he was legally elected and there are no investigations of him at this time. So, yes.
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B-Tender wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:40 pm I'm no expert either, but most of what I have read and heard about law enforcement training has said that it is most important to preserve the life of the officer first.
So much for the "protect" part of "To Serve and Protect" right?
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saltydog wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:28 pm
B-Tender wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:40 pm I'm no expert either, but most of what I have read and heard about law enforcement training has said that it is most important to preserve the life of the officer first.
So much for the "protect" part of "To Serve and Protect" right?
Meh, I think it's more nuanced than that. You don't want everyone acting like Cowboys, and yet at the same time, you don't want them sitting on the sideline waiting while carnage is being wreaked.
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The police are under no obligation to "protect" anyone.



This is but one example. I think the SCOTUS first made this ruling back in the late 60's, and its been reaffirmed and upheld many times since then.

Just one more racket within the police/prison industrial complex.
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That was fascinating. Do you blame the cops or the media for the fucked up narrative.
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Yes.

And policy makers too.
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He has something like 70% approval among democrats. How can this be?
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Charliesheen wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:31 pm He has something like 70% approval among democrats. How can this be?
young people don't respond to polls?
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Can someone repost the memes on the Texas power grid??
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So, we want to arm and train teachers to prevent school shootings?

Do we arm mall employees, grocery store clerks, the Walmart greeter, etc?

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saltydog wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:44 am So, we want to arm and train teachers to prevent school shootings?

Do we arm mall employees, grocery store clerks, the Walmart greeter, etc?

The Pro-Massacre Party loves this idea!
Hospital staff too!
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saltydog wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:07 am
saltydog wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:44 am So, we want to arm and train teachers to prevent school shootings?

Do we arm mall employees, grocery store clerks, the Walmart greeter, etc?

The Pro-Massacre Party loves this idea!
Hospital staff too!
Wait, I thought hospitals are gun-free zones? :?:
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