The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)

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Re: The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)

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Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:10 pm
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:25 am
necronomous wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:03 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:01 am
necronomous wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:21 pm
Bullshit.
bullshit on which part?
You absolutely want to mandate it for everyone you fucking socialist. You've admitted as such several times. Locked in bitch. And don't say circumstances have changed.
:lol: sorry, jenny. wrong again.
Jenny? LOL!!

That's fucking hilarious coming from the guy who thinks you take flu/covid shots to "protect others".
that's hilarious coming from someone so fucking stupid that they can't understand that if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.

If you are honestly too dumb to understand how that works then there is no help for you.
First off, the elderly got their shots on the same day the HC workers did.

Second, your precious mRNA shots do NOT prevent spread.

And last, you don't take flu/covid shots to "protect others". Derp.
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Cassandros wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:24 pm
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:10 pm
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:25 am
necronomous wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:03 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:01 am

bullshit on which part?
You absolutely want to mandate it for everyone you fucking socialist. You've admitted as such several times. Locked in bitch. And don't say circumstances have changed.
:lol: sorry, jenny. wrong again.
Jenny? LOL!!

That's fucking hilarious coming from the guy who thinks you take flu/covid shots to "protect others".
that's hilarious coming from someone so fucking stupid that they can't understand that if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.

If you are honestly too dumb to understand how that works then there is no help for you.
First off, the elderly got their shots on the same day the HC workers did.

Second, your precious mRNA shots do NOT prevent spread.

And last, you don't take flu/covid shots to "protect others". Derp.
actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part. but, regardless, what point do you think you are making?

People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus. Welcome to 2022.

And, yes, many people take the covid shots to protect others more than they do to protect themselves. That's just a fact.
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it looks like Cassandros has been reading all of Jenny Necro's posts the past two years.
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Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:25 pm it looks like Cassandros has been reading all of Jenny Necro's posts the past two years.
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Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:25 pm it looks like Cassandros has been reading all of Jenny Necro's posts the past two years.
Its easy to be smug when you ignore reality.

Mandates are wrong, and anyone who every supported them are either stupid or evil.

Which are you?
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Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:01 am
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:25 pm it looks like Cassandros has been reading all of Jenny Necro's posts the past two years.
Its easy to be smug when you ignore reality.

Mandates are wrong, and anyone who every supported them are either stupid or evil.

Which are you?
:lol: listen to Karen go!! you've learned well from Jenny Necro.
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Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:24 pm
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:10 pm
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:25 am
necronomous wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:03 am
You absolutely want to mandate it for everyone you fucking socialist. You've admitted as such several times. Locked in bitch. And don't say circumstances have changed.
:lol: sorry, jenny. wrong again.
Jenny? LOL!!

That's fucking hilarious coming from the guy who thinks you take flu/covid shots to "protect others".
that's hilarious coming from someone so fucking stupid that they can't understand that if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.

If you are honestly too dumb to understand how that works then there is no help for you.
First off, the elderly got their shots on the same day the HC workers did.

Second, your precious mRNA shots do NOT prevent spread.

And last, you don't take flu/covid shots to "protect others". Derp.
actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part. but, regardless, what point do you think you are making?

People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus. Welcome to 2022.

And, yes, many people take the covid shots to protect others more than they do to protect themselves. That's just a fact.
So, by your own admission: your point is even more wrong?

LOL!!!

No, you do not get flu/covid shots to "protect others", because they do NOT prevent spread. Stop being dumb/evil.
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Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:07 am
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:01 am
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:25 pm it looks like Cassandros has been reading all of Jenny Necro's posts the past two years.
Its easy to be smug when you ignore reality.

Mandates are wrong, and anyone who every supported them are either stupid or evil.

Which are you?
:lol: listen to Karen go!! you've learned well from Jenny Necro.
Answer the question.
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Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:07 am
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:01 am
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:25 pm it looks like Cassandros has been reading all of Jenny Necro's posts the past two years.
Its easy to be smug when you ignore reality.

Mandates are wrong, and anyone who every supported them are either stupid or evil.

Which are you?
:lol: listen to Karen go!! you've learned well from Jenny Necro.
It's McNecro, socialist
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Jenny and Cassandros should take this show on the road.
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Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:42 am Jenny and Cassandros should take this show on the road.
Sure, I can debate the positives while he is against. Being obsessed like this is sad.
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necronomous wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:43 am
Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:42 am Jenny and Cassandros should take this show on the road.
Sure, I can debate the positives while he is against. Being obsessed like this is sad.
he's arguing exactly the same information you have been posting for over a year now.
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Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:21 am
necronomous wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:43 am
Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:42 am Jenny and Cassandros should take this show on the road.
Sure, I can debate the positives while he is against. Being obsessed like this is sad.
he's arguing exactly the same information you have been posting for over a year now.
That I disagree with but fucks with your socialist head like nothing I've ever seen.
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Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part.
You debate yourself like a pro.

:lol:
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus.
Incorrect, sir.

The sooner you admit the truth, the sooner the healing can begin.
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Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part.
You debate yourself like a pro.

:lol:
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus.
Incorrect, sir.

The sooner you admit the truth, the sooner the healing can begin.

This is the kind of thinking the misinformation that nuts like Necro have been spreading has resulted in. Its like listening to people that believe in Bigfoot.
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Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Are we still believing this? :lol:
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Biker wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Are we still believing this? :lol:
only because the facts show it to be true. Obviously, QAnon disagrees.
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Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:45 pm
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part.
You debate yourself like a pro.

:lol:
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus.
Incorrect, sir.

The sooner you admit the truth, the sooner the healing can begin.

This is the kind of thinking the misinformation that nuts like Necro have been spreading has resulted in. Its like listening to people that believe in Bigfoot.
Where do you think I spread it? I would like to hear this.
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Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:45 pm
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part.
You debate yourself like a pro.

:lol:
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus.
Incorrect, sir.

The sooner you admit the truth, the sooner the healing can begin.

This is the kind of thinking the misinformation that nuts like Necro have been spreading has resulted in. Its like listening to people that believe in Bigfoot.
Well, let's review the facts: mRNA shots A) do not prevent spread, B) do not confer immunity, and therefore C) are useless for "protecting others".

Seems like the only one peddling "misinformation" --> is you.
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Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:45 pm
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part.
You debate yourself like a pro.

:lol:
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus.
Incorrect, sir.

The sooner you admit the truth, the sooner the healing can begin.

This is the kind of thinking the misinformation that nuts like Necro have been spreading has resulted in. Its like listening to people that believe in Bigfoot.
Well, let's review the facts: mRNA shots A) do not prevent spread, B) do not confer immunity, and therefore C) are useless for "protecting others".

Seems like the only one peddling "misinformation" --> is you.
you are going to have to take up this nonsense with someone that agrees with you. talk it out with Necro.
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Animal wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:13 am
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:45 pm
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part.
You debate yourself like a pro.

:lol:
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus.
Incorrect, sir.

The sooner you admit the truth, the sooner the healing can begin.

This is the kind of thinking the misinformation that nuts like Necro have been spreading has resulted in. Its like listening to people that believe in Bigfoot.
Well, let's review the facts: mRNA shots A) do not prevent spread, B) do not confer immunity, and therefore C) are useless for "protecting others".

Seems like the only one peddling "misinformation" --> is you.
you are going to have to take up this nonsense with someone that agrees with you. talk it out with Necro.
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Animal wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:13 am
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:45 pm
Cassandros wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:38 am
Animal wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:07 pm if you work in a nursing home it would be smart to be vaccinated so your odds of catching covid and giving it to an old person would be less.[/b]
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm actually, the elderly got their shots months before the health care workers did, for the most part.
You debate yourself like a pro.

:lol:
Animal wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:24 pm People getting covid shots, absolutely slow down the spread of the virus.
Incorrect, sir.

The sooner you admit the truth, the sooner the healing can begin.

This is the kind of thinking the misinformation that nuts like Necro have been spreading has resulted in. Its like listening to people that believe in Bigfoot.
Well, let's review the facts: mRNA shots A) do not prevent spread, B) do not confer immunity, and therefore C) are useless for "protecting others".

Seems like the only one peddling "misinformation" --> is you.
you are going to have to take up this nonsense with someone that agrees with you. talk it out with Necro.
Denial isn't pretty.
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'We were lied to by everyone:' Ben Shapiro walks back support for Covid vaccine

"We were lied to by everyone. We were lied to by the scientists. We were lied to by Pfizer. We were lied to by the government. We were lied to by the Biden administration ... I don't like being lied to."



Ben Shapiro, who has been an outspoken advocate for the Covid-19 mRNA vaccines, said during his show on Tuesday that he, like many others around the world, had been lied to regarding the efficacy of the vaccines, specifically with regard to their ability to prevent transmission of the novel coronavirus.

On Tuesday's episode of "The Ben Shapiro Show," he said, "It is now perfectly clear that we were lied to. And we were lied to at a very high level and from very, very early on by both the vaccine companies, in terms of the ability of the vaccine to prevent transmission, and ... by our politicians who apparently knew better."

Shapiro's stated during the episode that part of what changed his stance was after Pfizer executive Janine Small said in an Oct. 10 hearing before members of the EU that the company didn’t know if the Covid-19 mRNA vaccine it had developed would prevent transmission, yet the vaccine was marketed that it would.

The editor emeritus of the Daily Wire also slammed the Biden administration for having that knowledge at the beginning of his term in office yet continued to parrot the narrative that the vaccine would stop transmission of the virus.

Shapiro cited an article published in the Washington Post which suggested that the Biden administration knew by the summer of 2021 that the vaccines "did a far worse job of blocking infection than originally expected, as potency waned ... Still, the political imperative remained."

This from the outlet which previously called the now debunked claim the "most pernicious anti-vaccine talking point," and used the false narrative to attack Republicans such as Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis who claimed early on that the vaccines "are not preventing infection."

Former White House COVID response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx admitted in July that she had known that the Covid-19 vaccines "were not going to protect against infection," and added, "we overplayed the vaccines."

Shapiro stressed that the false narratives could undermine Americans’ faith in medical institutions and their government saying that when "it turns out these things are lies ... people's distrust in the institution is going to skyrocket."

During the episode, Shapiro noted that the push for Americans to get vaccinated was based on the claim that there was "robust data on the lowering of the risk of death, particularly if you were old and vulnerable, from baseline COVID," and that the case was "fairly strong" given the large amount of Americans who are obese and a large amount of elderly in the population.

Additionally, Shapiro said that the government and medical experts made the case, "largely on the basis of Pfizer claims and Moderna claims," that taking the vaccines would lower transmission rates which would, in turn, slow the spread of the disease and bring an end to the pandemic.
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Did you hear that Pfizer just announced it has a vaccine against RSV for pregnant women? Its 82% effective at keeping newborns safe for the first 6 months or so. Can I get a cha-ching?
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But is it free?
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