What happened to the Left?

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Re: What happened to the Left?

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Animal wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:56 am
Geist wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:48 am
Animal wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:38 am
Geist wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:13 am
Charliesheen wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:30 pm Cliff notes please. I trust you.
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Genetics play a role in homosexuality but so does environment. Dynamics of the family unit play a significant role in expression of genes related to homosexuality - being homo is conditionally beneficial at the familial level in terms of competition for resources. There's a number of ways the gene itself can still pass on (gays still love babies) but the gene itself is still going to be shared and passed on by family. Only in recent history is homosexuality even an issue, made so because of religious conjecture.
so, if environment plays a role, does that mean adjustments to the environment can affect the outcome?
Pre-natal conditions, genetic predisposition, place in hierarchy of siblings. Variables can always be tinkers with. If you're asking if you can eugenics away the gays, that would be a fruitless endeavor.
so, if you map a person's genetics and do a survey of the family, you can mathematically predict the odds of gay?
You'd need a lot more info than that. Usually.

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Only in recent history is homosexuality even an issue,
Yeah, it’s an issue now…
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Geist wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:13 am
Charliesheen wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:30 pm Cliff notes please. I trust you.
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Genetics play a role in homosexuality but so does environment. Dynamics of the family unit play a significant role in expression of genes related to homosexuality - being homo is conditionally beneficial at the familial level in terms of competition for resources. There's a number of ways the gene itself can still pass on (gays still love babies) but the gene itself is still going to be shared and passed on by family. Only in recent history is homosexuality even an issue, made so because of religious conjecture.
BS. Maybe we can all agree since the dawn of humanity around 2-3% of the population has suffered from a malfunction gene in their DNA sequence. You mention 5,000 years. I say go back 10,000, 100,000+ years. Not only were they shunned and ostracized but probably killed on site. Why? Because when the human species is doing nothing but trying to survive, they offer nothing to their family, tribe, town or civilization. I think I read that 250,000 years ago, there were probably only 20,000-50,000 humans on the whole planet tucked into a corner of Africa. So why are they tolerated now? Because in the last 2 handful generations, a few lucky nations have become energy/economic/food production rich enough that they can indulge the tiny minority from prosecution. Is that good enough? Hell no. Now they want extra rights and privileges including teaching our children that this lifestyle is totally normal. BS.
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:58 am
Geist wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:13 am
Charliesheen wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:30 pm Cliff notes please. I trust you.
TL;DR

Genetics play a role in homosexuality but so does environment. Dynamics of the family unit play a significant role in expression of genes related to homosexuality - being homo is conditionally beneficial at the familial level in terms of competition for resources. There's a number of ways the gene itself can still pass on (gays still love babies) but the gene itself is still going to be shared and passed on by family. Only in recent history is homosexuality even an issue, made so because of religious conjecture.
BS. Maybe we can all agree since the dawn of humanity around 2-3% of the population has suffered from a malfunction gene in their DNA sequence. You mention 5,000 years. I say go back 10,000, 100,000+ years. Not only were they shunned and ostracized but probably killed on site. Why? Because when the human species is doing nothing but trying to survive, they offer nothing to their family, tribe, town or civilization. I think I read that 250,000 years ago, there were probably only 20,000-50,000 humans on the whole planet tucked into a corner of Africa. So why are they tolerated now? Because in the last 2 handful generations, a few lucky nations have become energy/economic/food production rich enough that they can indulge the tiny minority from prosecution. Is that good enough? Hell no. Now they want extra rights and privileges including teaching our children that this lifestyle is totally normal. BS.
Literally nothing you think is correct. Please jump in a wood chipper, you're fucking useless.
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Geist wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:48 am
Animal wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:38 am
Geist wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:13 am
Charliesheen wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:30 pm Cliff notes please. I trust you.
TL;DR

Genetics play a role in homosexuality but so does environment. Dynamics of the family unit play a significant role in expression of genes related to homosexuality - being homo is conditionally beneficial at the familial level in terms of competition for resources. There's a number of ways the gene itself can still pass on (gays still love babies) but the gene itself is still going to be shared and passed on by family. Only in recent history is homosexuality even an issue, made so because of religious conjecture.
so, if environment plays a role, does that mean adjustments to the environment can affect the outcome?
Pre-natal conditions, genetic predisposition, place in hierarchy of siblings. Variables can always be tinkers with. If you're asking if you can eugenics away the gays, that would be a fruitless endeavor.
"Fruitless". I see what you did there.
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This whole homosexual debate is just another reason for the Right to hate.

I have best friends that are gay. I have probably 20+ gay friends and acquaintances. When I was a kid, two gay guys babysat us (3 boys) all the time. We knew they were a couple. I had gay teachers.

Not once has a gay person ever tried to influence me about being gay. They were just gay. No issue. Normal people.

What is your problem down there?
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Refusal to modify dangerous behaviors.
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Charliesheen wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:59 pm Refusal to modify dangerous behaviors.
Like the inaction of the Catholic Church?

Religion has done far, far more damage to humanity than what appears to be accepted knowledge around here of (checks notes....)... a genetic defect.
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That’s one loopy fuckin comparison.
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Charliesheen wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:45 pm That’s one loopy fuckin comparison.
From what I've gathered from the commentary here, the abhorrent (and ignored) behavior of the Catholic Church was due to a rampant amount of genetic defective clergy. Do I have that right?
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/artic ... 48433.html
But there’s a more important potential pitfall than decorum. Despite repeated bipartisan warnings about the national security risks of TikTok, the administration continues to make use of the Chinese-owned social networking app. While the White House and President Biden do not have official TikTok accounts, they actively court those with large followings on the platform.
Biden admin partnering with the communists to save its bacon. Anything to stay in power. How “democratic.”
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saltydog wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:49 pm
Charliesheen wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:45 pm That’s one loopy fuckin comparison.
From what I've gathered from the commentary here, the abhorrent (and ignored) behavior of the Catholic Church was due to a rampant amount of genetic defective clergy. Do I have that right?
I suppose you have a point there.



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