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Re: Why would Russia invade Ukraine?

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Animal wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:01 am so am i hearing this news report right? most of the ukranian soldiers are using "plywood" rifles? wtf? I have heard that same kind of news report 3 different times today.

i also heard that russia is moving mobile blood banks into the area. that's a pretty impressive move if this is all a troll job on their part.
you're assuming those rumors are true
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-60257080
China has joined Russia in opposing further Nato expansion as the two countries move closer together in the face of Western pressure.
Moscow and Beijing issued a statement showcasing their agreement on a raft of issues during a visit by Russia's Vladimir Putin for the Winter Olympics.
Mr Putin claims Western powers are using the Nato defence alliance to undermine Russia.
It comes amid tensions over Ukraine, which he denies planning to invade.
Some 100,000 Russian troops remain at the border with Ukraine, which is a former Soviet republic. Mr Putin, who has written that Russians and Ukrainians are "one nation", has demanded that Ukraine be barred from joining Nato.
While the lengthy joint statement did not refer directly to Ukraine, the two countries accused Nato of espousing a Cold War ideology.
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A journalist FINALLY doing his job. Refreshing

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Dont sweat it. Pincushion is on the scene! :lol:

Fresh Off Disaster At U.S. Border, Kamala Harris Tapped For Special Role With Ukraine
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Hasn't enough gone wrong for Ukraine already? Now Camilla is in charge of getting people to like them? They are fucked.
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Their Chicken Kiev is to die for. :rockout:
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Animal wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:42 am Hasn't enough gone wrong for Ukraine already? Now Camilla is in charge of getting people to like them? They are fucked.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:28 am
Animal wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:42 am Hasn't enough gone wrong for Ukraine already? Now Camilla is in charge of getting people to like them? They are fucked.
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If Ukraine was a stock, this news would have been enough to bring on the short sellers.
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How many Americans would do this? In my heart I want to say "All of them." My brain however says "probably not as many as you hope."

Ukraine’s new military branch: Citizens protecting their neighborhood
A journalist, a data analyst and an improv comedy specialist are just three examples of the everyday people signing up as Russian troops threaten Ukraine.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... t-defense/
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I just heard on the news that the Ukranian President has been told that the invasion will start Wednesday. And that the markets are responding right now to the same news.
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Animal wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:22 pm I just heard on the news that the Ukranian President has been told that the invasion will start Wednesday. And that the markets are responding right now to the same news.
Does it strike you as odd that Russia informs Ukraine what day the invasion will commence? This whole thing is whacked
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Biker wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:54 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:22 pm I just heard on the news that the Ukranian President has been told that the invasion will start Wednesday. And that the markets are responding right now to the same news.
Does it strike you as odd that Russia informs Ukraine what day the invasion will commence? This whole thing is whacked
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WASHINGTON, March 18 (UPI) -- U.S. forces on Tuesday dropped 360,000 leaflets over southern Iraq telling Iraqi soldiers not to use chemical or biological weapons and warning civilians to avoid military sites, with an invasion of Iraq possibly just a day away, according to U.S. Central Command.

One day after the Office of Homeland Security raised the domestic threat alert to "orange," or "high alert," all American forces and their families in Europe were put on a boosted threat alert Tuesday. The entire European theater -- including Turkey -- is now operating under force protection condition "Charlie," meaning officials believe a terrorist or military attack is imminent, a EUCOM official said.

President George W. Bush announced in a televised address Monday that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and his sons had 48 hours to leave Iraq, the only way to avert a war with the United States.

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CHEEZY17 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:52 am How many Americans would do this? In my heart I want to say "All of them." My brain however says "probably not as many as you hope."

Ukraine’s new military branch: Citizens protecting their neighborhood
A journalist, a data analyst and an improv comedy specialist are just three examples of the everyday people signing up as Russian troops threaten Ukraine.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... t-defense/
I guess it depends. If basically all “free and independent” media make out the patriots as the ones preventing “peace”, then it may take the reds a little longer to crush the populace.
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Okay, has Russia finally pushed this bluff as far as they can? Are they about ready to sit down and try to negotiate whatever it is that they have staged all of this for?

I am ready to think that must be the case. The markets are simply just not responding to this as if its an imminent fact that there will be an invasion. When stories about Trump or Prince Andrew top the news instead of a chance for WWIII to start, this has all got to be a big pile of nothing.

But every time I start to think this I am reminded of Sadam just recklessly carrying out his bluff until he was drug out of a hole in the ground and hanged. Or Qadafi hiding in a storm pipe until they literally beat him to death.
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Animal wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:08 pm Okay, has Russia finally pushed this bluff as far as they can? Are they about ready to sit down and try to negotiate whatever it is that they have staged all of this for?

I am ready to think that must be the case. The markets are simply just not responding to this as if its an imminent fact that there will be an invasion. When stories about Trump or Prince Andrew top the news instead of a chance for WWIII to start, this has all got to be a big pile of nothing.

But every time I start to think this I am reminded of Sadam just recklessly carrying out his bluff until he was drug out of a hole in the ground and hanged. Or Qadafi hiding in a storm pipe until they literally beat him to death.
What bluff? Putin isn't afraid of whoever is caretaking Joe Biden. Like the rest of the world, he has no respect for Biden's handlers, because he, like the rest of the world, knows Biden's handlers are weak and cowardly. Guaranteed he'll commence the invasion whenever he feels ready, because he knows he can.
And he will laugh at our country's meager, ineffectual response. And why shouldn't he? We don't know who is actually in charge of our country, and it's painfully obvious that our addle-brained, dementia-ridden pseudo-president will be made Vladimir Putin's prison bitch. We're now at a point where Russia, which is essentially a glorified third world country, feels emboldened to give the world the finger because the United States -- traditionally the world's babysitter -- has no leadership.
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Deathproof wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:38 am
Animal wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:08 pm Okay, has Russia finally pushed this bluff as far as they can? Are they about ready to sit down and try to negotiate whatever it is that they have staged all of this for?

I am ready to think that must be the case. The markets are simply just not responding to this as if its an imminent fact that there will be an invasion. When stories about Trump or Prince Andrew top the news instead of a chance for WWIII to start, this has all got to be a big pile of nothing.

But every time I start to think this I am reminded of Sadam just recklessly carrying out his bluff until he was drug out of a hole in the ground and hanged. Or Qadafi hiding in a storm pipe until they literally beat him to death.
What bluff? Putin isn't afraid of whoever is caretaking Joe Biden. Like the rest of the world, he has no respect for Biden's handlers, because he, like the rest of the world, knows Biden's handlers are weak and cowardly. Guaranteed he'll commence the invasion whenever he feels ready, because he knows he can.
And he will laugh at our country's meager, ineffectual response. And why shouldn't he? We don't know who is actually in charge of our country, and it's painfully obvious that our addle-brained, dementia-ridden pseudo-president will be made Vladimir Putin's prison bitch. We're now at a point where Russia, which is essentially a glorified third world country, feels emboldened to give the world the finger because the United States -- traditionally the world's babysitter -- has no leadership.
if he doesn't invade Ukraine, then that would be the bluff.
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Animal wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:18 am
Deathproof wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:38 am
Animal wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:08 pm Okay, has Russia finally pushed this bluff as far as they can? Are they about ready to sit down and try to negotiate whatever it is that they have staged all of this for?

I am ready to think that must be the case. The markets are simply just not responding to this as if its an imminent fact that there will be an invasion. When stories about Trump or Prince Andrew top the news instead of a chance for WWIII to start, this has all got to be a big pile of nothing.

But every time I start to think this I am reminded of Sadam just recklessly carrying out his bluff until he was drug out of a hole in the ground and hanged. Or Qadafi hiding in a storm pipe until they literally beat him to death.
What bluff? Putin isn't afraid of whoever is caretaking Joe Biden. Like the rest of the world, he has no respect for Biden's handlers, because he, like the rest of the world, knows Biden's handlers are weak and cowardly. Guaranteed he'll commence the invasion whenever he feels ready, because he knows he can.
And he will laugh at our country's meager, ineffectual response. And why shouldn't he? We don't know who is actually in charge of our country, and it's painfully obvious that our addle-brained, dementia-ridden pseudo-president will be made Vladimir Putin's prison bitch. We're now at a point where Russia, which is essentially a glorified third world country, feels emboldened to give the world the finger because the United States -- traditionally the world's babysitter -- has no leadership.
if he doesn't invade Ukraine, then that would be the bluff.
Would be. But he's not bluffing.
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Bluffing or not, China is taking notes watching how the west responds.
Honestly, I think our (the wests in general) clusterfuck of a response all but guarantees a move on Taiwan.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:16 am Bluffing or not, China is taking notes watching how the west responds.
Honestly, I think our (the wests in general) clusterfuck of a response all but guarantees a move on Taiwan.
The Chinese know that Biden is weak but also that he and the Democrats do their bidding. Will be interesting to see how it all goes down
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I think that powerful speech Biden gave the other day really made Putin shit himself.

Laughing… he shit himself laughing
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No shit

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