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QillerDaemon wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 3:10 pm I don't know what your party is, it doesn't seem to have a consistent platform. Or even any platform. Just abortion, hate, and lies.

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Look 👀 who voted no on codifying Roe, none other than Joe Manchin
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Who wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 2:43 am Look 👀 who voted no on codifying Roe, none other than Joe Manchin
I'm actually generally pro-choice but Thank God for that man.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:42 am
Who wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 2:43 am Look 👀 who voted no on codifying Roe, none other than Joe Manchin
I'm actually generally pro-choice but Thank God for that man.
He should be regarded as an American hero at this point. He has prevented a lot of catastrophes from happening.
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peterosehaircut wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 12:54 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:42 am
Who wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 2:43 am Look 👀 who voted no on codifying Roe, none other than Joe Manchin
I'm actually generally pro-choice but Thank God for that man.
He should be regarded as an American hero at this point. He has prevented a lot of catastrophes from happening.
How so?
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Who wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 1:27 pm
peterosehaircut wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 12:54 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:42 am
Who wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 2:43 am Look 👀 who voted no on codifying Roe, none other than Joe Manchin
I'm actually generally pro-choice but Thank God for that man.
He should be regarded as an American hero at this point. He has prevented a lot of catastrophes from happening.
How so?
By voting against several Democrat policies.
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QillerDaemon wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 3:10 pm
Deathproof wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 11:16 pm I don't know what your party is, it doesn't seem to have a consistent platform. Or even any platform. Just abortion, hate, and lies.
Spoken like someone who didn't grow up in the South with Dixie-crats as their elected representatives. What you said is an old fib, a whole-cloth rewriting of the actual history, but damn do you righties love to tell it now. But I remember. What I remember is all the conservative Democrats moving almost to a man (except for fossils like Manchin) to the Republican Party into the 80's. I have no doubt that even LBJ would have become a Republican, the truth behind that man is the stuff of your present party. Your current party is not the party of Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon, or even Reagan. I don't know what your party is, it doesn't seem to have a consistent platform. Or even any platform. Just abortion, hate, and lies.

By the way, to get back on topic: it must be noted that the leaked SCOTUS document implies that Roe v Wade should return back to the states for them to decide. Fine, so why are a lot of Republicans suddenly all for a federal law against abortion? Is it a states rights issue, or isn't it?
Actually, what I said was spoken like someone who has studied American history. Those "dixiecrats" you people like to bring up whenever someone cites the actual, factual, real racist history of the Democrat party are mythical at nest and a deliberate lie at worst. You guys love to talk about the "party shift", meaning Republicans and democrats changed outlooks on issues of race, but... the party shift didn't happen. And a little basic research proves it.

What you're referring to is the misguided and false idea that a bunch of racist democrats (redundant, I know) got upset with Democrat colleagues who finally, after striking it down several times, got in line with Republicans who had all along been supporting and voting in favor of the Civil Rights Act. The story goes that those staunch, stubborn racists "left the democrat party and joined the Republicans" to preserve racist ideals in the South. However, the truth doesn't match up with the story.
Exactly ONE racist Democrat senator -- Strom Thurmond -- defected to the Republican party, and he did so long before Nixon's time. Exactly ONE racist Democrat Congressman-- Albert Watson of South Carolina -- joined the GOP. The rest of those "dixiecrats" stayed with the Democrat party and voted overwhelmingly along Democrat party lines for the rest of their political careers, and that is an easily-researched matter of public record.

The South, as a whole, became Republican during the 1970s and 1990s, and had nothing to do with Nixon or the "southern strategy" the democrats have been lying about for decades. The Republican party, in actuality, is still the party of Luncol , Reagan, Eisenhower, and even Martin Luther King Jr, who was a Republican.

Your party is still the party of lies and racism.
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Deathproof wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 1:34 pm
By voting against several Democrat policies.
And that's all the Republican Party is these days, the party that only votes against someone else's policies, just "'cuz".

How much history do you want to rewrite to paint over that Trump and the Republican Party had almost the entire US national government under control, with its first prime directive to kill "Obamacare" (aka ACA, which a surprising number of Americans support as such), and DIDN'T EVEN ACCOMPLISH THAT! Much less anything else substantial. Tried to rewrite NAFTA. Put up a little bit of wall, which Mexico didn't pay a dime for. Because Trump had no idea what to accomplish, certainly anything of benefit to the average (not wealthy) American citizen. The only actual policy was "NO!", and nothing is all the US got under 45.

I'm not going to try to reply to your drivel about rewriting Democrat Party history, except to say that until the 80's, the Republican Party was moribund in Texas and Florida. Nobody was voting for Republicans a hundred years ago, and only a dribble fifty years ago, in either state. But now the Republican Party has run both states for at least the last 20 years, and still try to blame Democrats for policies both parties willingly voted for, and many of which worked fine until the Republicans started making "adjustments" to those policies. Rewrite all you want, the actual history is still out there. At least it will be as long as you don't try to paint it over with a hue of "CRT", fighting some cultural war you insist on fighting.
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QillerDaemon wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:00 pm
Deathproof wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 1:34 pm
By voting against several Democrat policies.
And that's all the Republican Party is these days, the party that only votes against someone else's policies, just "'cuz".

How much history do you want to rewrite to paint over that Trump and the Republican Party had almost the entire US national government under control, with its first prime directive to kill "Obamacare" (aka ACA, which a surprising number of Americans support as such), and DIDN'T EVEN ACCOMPLISH THAT! Much less anything else substantial. Tried to rewrite NAFTA. Put up a little bit of wall, which Mexico didn't pay a dime for. Because Trump had no idea what to accomplish, certainly anything of benefit to the average (not wealthy) American citizen. The only actual policy was "NO!", and nothing is all the US got under 45.

I'm not going to try to reply to your drivel about rewriting Democrat Party history, except to say that until the 80's, the Republican Party was moribund in Texas and Florida. Nobody was voting for Republicans a hundred years ago, and only a dribble fifty years ago, in either state. But now the Republican Party has run both states for at least the last 20 years, and still try to blame Democrats for policies both parties willingly voted for, and many of which worked fine until the Republicans started making "adjustments" to those policies. Rewrite all you want, the actual history is still out there. At least it will be as long as you don't try to paint it over with a hue of "CRT", fighting some cultural war you insist on fighting.
you seem to have a real problem understanding the switch from democrats to republicans. the reason texas is majority repubican now is because as people rose in income and wealth their children rejected the democrat form of governing and joined the republican style of governing. The parties and their views on anything didn't change. The children switched parties. The parents remained democrat and their kids switched to republican.
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Generally speaking when it comes to a lot of democrat positions the absolute correct response/action is "no". And many people seem to agree as the R party continues to grow.
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saltydog wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:28 pm
actually, the word you are both looking for is "untrue".
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Animal wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:36 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:28 pm
actually, the word you are both looking for is "untrue".
That settles it.
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saltydog wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 7:31 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:36 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:28 pm
actually, the word you are both looking for is "untrue".
That settles it.
its a false statement and just more misinformation spread by the left. The Catholic church not only will have a mass for a stillborn child, they allow the burials in Catholic cemeteries, they do full funerals for stillborn babies, they even have special prayers that they will do for stillborn babies.
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Animal wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 7:52 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 7:31 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:36 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:28 pm
actually, the word you are both looking for is "untrue".
That settles it.
its a false statement and just more misinformation spread by the left. The Catholic church not only will have a mass for a stillborn child, they allow the burials in Catholic cemeteries, they do full funerals for stillborn babies, they even have special prayers that they will do for stillborn babies.
The majority of catholics are democrat.
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QillerDaemon wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:00 pm
Deathproof wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 1:34 pm
By voting against several Democrat policies.
And that's all the Republican Party is these days, the party that only votes against someone else's policies, just "'cuz".

How much history do you want to rewrite to paint over that Trump and the Republican Party had almost the entire US national government under control, with its first prime directive to kill "Obamacare" (aka ACA, which a surprising number of Americans support as such), and DIDN'T EVEN ACCOMPLISH THAT! Much less anything else substantial. Tried to rewrite NAFTA. Put up a little bit of wall, which Mexico didn't pay a dime for. Because Trump had no idea what to accomplish, certainly anything of benefit to the average (not wealthy) American citizen. The only actual policy was "NO!", and nothing is all the US got under 45.

I'm not going to try to reply to your drivel about rewriting Democrat Party history, except to say that until the 80's, the Republican Party was moribund in Texas and Florida. Nobody was voting for Republicans a hundred years ago, and only a dribble fifty years ago, in either state. But now the Republican Party has run both states for at least the last 20 years, and still try to blame Democrats for policies both parties willingly voted for, and many of which worked fine until the Republicans started making "adjustments" to those policies. Rewrite all you want, the actual history is still out there. At least it will be as long as you don't try to paint it over with a hue of "CRT", fighting some cultural war you insist on fighting.
Notice how when presented with irrefutable evidence that racism is part of the fabric of the Democrat party, you shift gears and move on to something else. That is so typical.

However. It’s true that the voters missed a huge opportunity when they had control of both houses and the presidency. I blame rhinos for that including the former speaker of the house who is no longer in government but is now slopping himself at the corporate trough.
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Charliesheen wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 12:35 pm Notice how when presented with irrefutable evidence that racism is part of the fabric of the Democrat party, you shift gears and move on to something else. That is so typical.
What "irrefutable evidence" you got? I grew up on the deep Texas coast, and had cousins who lived not far from the Deer Park KKK lodge. A few of them even participated in the group, standing out openly on street corners in Deer Park and Pasadena in hoods and sheets protesting black and brown people. I know they all voted Democrat, since their Democratic Party then were the Dixie-crats. This wasn't the same Democrat Party found in the Northeast or many (not all) western states. This was a Democrat Party of the traditional southern (ie former Confederate) states. It was almost a different polictical party altogether. I saw them move to the Republican Party in the 80's along with many, almost all, of the previously Democratic politicians, I suppose to follow Reagan, himself a former California Democrat. It left a shell of a formerly strong Democrat Party as more of the old white racists move to the Republican Party. You want to know where all the old Democrat racists are now? They are now the makeup of the modern Republican Party. And in most instances the Democrat Party of the southern states is a mere shell, basically powerless. I guess you could say you won in the southern US. Congratulations.

Not that it really matters a whole lot to me, personally, I'm the mirror image of Cheezy. He's a supposed Libertarian that pretty much whole-cloth supports the Republican Party. I'm a Green Party member who still puts some faith in the modern southern' Democrat Party. You can't really blame us for the state of either political party we're not really a party to.
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Ah, yes, the party of "pro-life" and "family values": votes against emergency funding for the baby formula shortage.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvn9ba/ ... a-shortage

192 House Republicans voted against a $28 million emergency funding bill to address the baby formula shortage.
An overwhelming majority of House Republicans voted against a bill Wednesday providing a bare minimum amount of funding to tackle the ongoing baby formula shortage, a problem that they keep complaining about, while a smaller group of far-right Republicans apparently don’t think infants from poor families deserve food.

The House passed a pair of bills Wednesday aimed at alleviating the crisis, including one providing $28 million in emergency funding to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to address the shortage. The money would also be used to increase staff at the FDA, such as inspectors who could help the agency accelerate the approval process for formula manufacturers, Democratic Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut told NBC News following the vote.
I know most you righties have given little or any real thought about abortion, it doesn't concern you or your family, it's only a matter for the poors. It's just something you have to get rid of to justify your "I'm a true rightie!" card. Women with enough means will still get a safe "D&C" since their own medical privacy will be honored, but women without means will just have to do without. Then have babies they can't feed, going to shitty run-down schools, and have little future beyond being fodder. Interesting that most of you have shown no real religious pretext (except for Chuckles, maybe?) for getting rid of abortion rights, so it must be some kind of economic thing for you. I hope you're proud of doing it, and will enjoy the consequences.
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QillerDaemon wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 2:06 pm Ah, yes, the party of "pro-life" and "family values": votes against emergency funding for the baby formula shortage.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvn9ba/ ... a-shortage

192 House Republicans voted against a $28 million emergency funding bill to address the baby formula shortage.
An overwhelming majority of House Republicans voted against a bill Wednesday providing a bare minimum amount of funding to tackle the ongoing baby formula shortage, a problem that they keep complaining about, while a smaller group of far-right Republicans apparently don’t think infants from poor families deserve food.

The House passed a pair of bills Wednesday aimed at alleviating the crisis, including one providing $28 million in emergency funding to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to address the shortage. The money would also be used to increase staff at the FDA, such as inspectors who could help the agency accelerate the approval process for formula manufacturers, Democratic Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut told NBC News following the vote.
I know most you righties have given little or any real thought about abortion, it doesn't concern you or your family, it's only a matter for the poors. It's just something you have to get rid of to justify your "I'm a true rightie!" card. Women with enough means will still get a safe "D&C" since their own medical privacy will be honored, but women without means will just have to do without. Then have babies they can't feed, going to shitty run-down schools, and have little future beyond being fodder. Interesting that most of you have shown no real religious pretext (except for Chuckles, maybe?) for getting rid of abortion rights, so it must be some kind of economic thing for you. I hope you're proud of doing it, and will enjoy the consequences.
Charliesheen wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 2:15 pm She blames Biden. Which is silly. All he’s doing is watching Murder She Wrote while former Obama operatives run the show. Still, I would smash that

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Animal wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 2:20 pm that's all you need to know about it.
Because Boebert says so? C'mon, Animal, you're smarter than this.
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QillerDaemon wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 2:30 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 2:20 pm that's all you need to know about it.
Because Boebert says so? C'mon, Animal, you're smarter than this.
i am smart enough to know that Nancy Pelosi can fuck anything up and ask for money that is unnecessary, regardless the source of that news. Most of the reason this country is in the sad fucking shape that its in right now is because of Pelosi's reckless spending. You don't succeed in business (or anything else) by continually throwing money at problems. You succeed by finding people that can solve problems in the first place.
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