Re: Way to go Texas
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:11 pm
remind me who is being dramatic again?
Own it, Tex-tard.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:21 pmremind me who is being dramatic again?
hahhahahahha. you must have missed your nap.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:32 pmOwn it, Tex-tard.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:21 pmremind me who is being dramatic again?
THE BIG LIE is alive and well in Texas!Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:37 pmhahhahahahha. you must have missed your nap.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:32 pmOwn it, Tex-tard.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:21 pmremind me who is being dramatic again?
Troll Level: Off the charts.
Last I heard, Eastern Washington State wanted to join with Idaho and leave the Western part.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:28 pmI thought California was the state known for talking about secession?QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:05 pmBut only with the approval of the federal government. That is, can't split on their own volition, legally.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:26 amMyth/ We can't. The only thing extra we were allowed when we joined was the option to split into up to 5 separate States. Of course, at that time we claimed half of present day NM/Colorado and way up to Montana.
Of course, this whole notion is bullshit and saber rattling. First thing off, that means if Texas decides to become its own country (again, since the feds in the 1830's didn't want it as a state), its citizens are no longer Americans, and have no rights and liberties of acting as Americans. The US Constitution no longer applies to Texas and its citizens. As a country, all international (since Texas will be outside the bounds of the USA, it's now an international state) agreements have to be renegotiated. Mexico (and Canada) may decide you need a visa to enter their countries, which is not needed by Americans. And they provide no mechanism to obtain one. Extra points if the US govt also decides to implement an entry visa. Crossing the Sabine or the Red River won't be so easy.
Right off the bat, Texas is going to need income, a lot of it, and that means taxes. No more funds from DC, Texas is on its own for the cash to run its new state. All new treaties with the same countries the US had treaties with, but without the power of the US to make those treaties. Those lucrative military bases, potentially gone. O yea, you hate the federal govt, but love the money those bases make. You have to come up with your own constitution, what are the articles that make it up? I really don't think a single person in Texas has the real political will to make succession actually happen. Just more hot air out of a state full of it.
Illinois and Southern Arizona have the same nutty fantasies as well. Its all noise to rile up the flanksFSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:15 pmLast I heard, Eastern Washington State wanted to join with Idaho and leave the Western part.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:28 pmI thought California was the state known for talking about secession?QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:05 pmBut only with the approval of the federal government. That is, can't split on their own volition, legally.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:26 amMyth/ We can't. The only thing extra we were allowed when we joined was the option to split into up to 5 separate States. Of course, at that time we claimed half of present day NM/Colorado and way up to Montana.
Of course, this whole notion is bullshit and saber rattling. First thing off, that means if Texas decides to become its own country (again, since the feds in the 1830's didn't want it as a state), its citizens are no longer Americans, and have no rights and liberties of acting as Americans. The US Constitution no longer applies to Texas and its citizens. As a country, all international (since Texas will be outside the bounds of the USA, it's now an international state) agreements have to be renegotiated. Mexico (and Canada) may decide you need a visa to enter their countries, which is not needed by Americans. And they provide no mechanism to obtain one. Extra points if the US govt also decides to implement an entry visa. Crossing the Sabine or the Red River won't be so easy.
Right off the bat, Texas is going to need income, a lot of it, and that means taxes. No more funds from DC, Texas is on its own for the cash to run its new state. All new treaties with the same countries the US had treaties with, but without the power of the US to make those treaties. Those lucrative military bases, potentially gone. O yea, you hate the federal govt, but love the money those bases make. You have to come up with your own constitution, what are the articles that make it up? I really don't think a single person in Texas has the real political will to make succession actually happen. Just more hot air out of a state full of it.
All pointless cuckoo stuff.
Fuck, if only.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:28 pmI thought California was the state known for talking about secession?QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:05 pmBut only with the approval of the federal government. That is, can't split on their own volition, legally.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:26 amMyth/ We can't. The only thing extra we were allowed when we joined was the option to split into up to 5 separate States. Of course, at that time we claimed half of present day NM/Colorado and way up to Montana.
Of course, this whole notion is bullshit and saber rattling. First thing off, that means if Texas decides to become its own country (again, since the feds in the 1830's didn't want it as a state), its citizens are no longer Americans, and have no rights and liberties of acting as Americans. The US Constitution no longer applies to Texas and its citizens. As a country, all international (since Texas will be outside the bounds of the USA, it's now an international state) agreements have to be renegotiated. Mexico (and Canada) may decide you need a visa to enter their countries, which is not needed by Americans. And they provide no mechanism to obtain one. Extra points if the US govt also decides to implement an entry visa. Crossing the Sabine or the Red River won't be so easy.
Right off the bat, Texas is going to need income, a lot of it, and that means taxes. No more funds from DC, Texas is on its own for the cash to run its new state. All new treaties with the same countries the US had treaties with, but without the power of the US to make those treaties. Those lucrative military bases, potentially gone. O yea, you hate the federal govt, but love the money those bases make. You have to come up with your own constitution, what are the articles that make it up? I really don't think a single person in Texas has the real political will to make succession actually happen. Just more hot air out of a state full of it.
Well, to your credit you've set the bar so high.Deathproof wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:36 pmThey apparently think if they call it a lie enough times, it'll become one.
We still do.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:15 pmLast I heard, Eastern Washington State wanted to join with Idaho and leave the Western part.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:28 pmI thought California was the state known for talking about secession?QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:05 pmBut only with the approval of the federal government. That is, can't split on their own volition, legally.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:26 amMyth/ We can't. The only thing extra we were allowed when we joined was the option to split into up to 5 separate States. Of course, at that time we claimed half of present day NM/Colorado and way up to Montana.
Of course, this whole notion is bullshit and saber rattling. First thing off, that means if Texas decides to become its own country (again, since the feds in the 1830's didn't want it as a state), its citizens are no longer Americans, and have no rights and liberties of acting as Americans. The US Constitution no longer applies to Texas and its citizens. As a country, all international (since Texas will be outside the bounds of the USA, it's now an international state) agreements have to be renegotiated. Mexico (and Canada) may decide you need a visa to enter their countries, which is not needed by Americans. And they provide no mechanism to obtain one. Extra points if the US govt also decides to implement an entry visa. Crossing the Sabine or the Red River won't be so easy.
Right off the bat, Texas is going to need income, a lot of it, and that means taxes. No more funds from DC, Texas is on its own for the cash to run its new state. All new treaties with the same countries the US had treaties with, but without the power of the US to make those treaties. Those lucrative military bases, potentially gone. O yea, you hate the federal govt, but love the money those bases make. You have to come up with your own constitution, what are the articles that make it up? I really don't think a single person in Texas has the real political will to make succession actually happen. Just more hot air out of a state full of it.
All pointless cuckoo stuff.
I would support leaving Seattle and Olympia behind, but Idaho can go fuck themselves.Homebrew wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:00 pmWe still do.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:15 pmLast I heard, Eastern Washington State wanted to join with Idaho and leave the Western part.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:28 pmI thought California was the state known for talking about secession?QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:05 pmBut only with the approval of the federal government. That is, can't split on their own volition, legally.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:26 amMyth/ We can't. The only thing extra we were allowed when we joined was the option to split into up to 5 separate States. Of course, at that time we claimed half of present day NM/Colorado and way up to Montana.
Of course, this whole notion is bullshit and saber rattling. First thing off, that means if Texas decides to become its own country (again, since the feds in the 1830's didn't want it as a state), its citizens are no longer Americans, and have no rights and liberties of acting as Americans. The US Constitution no longer applies to Texas and its citizens. As a country, all international (since Texas will be outside the bounds of the USA, it's now an international state) agreements have to be renegotiated. Mexico (and Canada) may decide you need a visa to enter their countries, which is not needed by Americans. And they provide no mechanism to obtain one. Extra points if the US govt also decides to implement an entry visa. Crossing the Sabine or the Red River won't be so easy.
Right off the bat, Texas is going to need income, a lot of it, and that means taxes. No more funds from DC, Texas is on its own for the cash to run its new state. All new treaties with the same countries the US had treaties with, but without the power of the US to make those treaties. Those lucrative military bases, potentially gone. O yea, you hate the federal govt, but love the money those bases make. You have to come up with your own constitution, what are the articles that make it up? I really don't think a single person in Texas has the real political will to make succession actually happen. Just more hot air out of a state full of it.
All pointless cuckoo stuff.
Yup. One of the more recent ideas I've heard about would be to split both Washington and Oregon along the mountain range and making western Washington and Oregon one state and the eastern halves another. This sounds like a better plan to me personally.hawkfan8812 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:58 pmI would support leaving Seattle and Olympia behind, but Idaho can go fuck themselves.Homebrew wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:00 pmWe still do.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:15 pmLast I heard, Eastern Washington State wanted to join with Idaho and leave the Western part.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:28 pmI thought California was the state known for talking about secession?QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:05 pmBut only with the approval of the federal government. That is, can't split on their own volition, legally.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:26 am
Myth/ We can't. The only thing extra we were allowed when we joined was the option to split into up to 5 separate States. Of course, at that time we claimed half of present day NM/Colorado and way up to Montana.
Of course, this whole notion is bullshit and saber rattling. First thing off, that means if Texas decides to become its own country (again, since the feds in the 1830's didn't want it as a state), its citizens are no longer Americans, and have no rights and liberties of acting as Americans. The US Constitution no longer applies to Texas and its citizens. As a country, all international (since Texas will be outside the bounds of the USA, it's now an international state) agreements have to be renegotiated. Mexico (and Canada) may decide you need a visa to enter their countries, which is not needed by Americans. And they provide no mechanism to obtain one. Extra points if the US govt also decides to implement an entry visa. Crossing the Sabine or the Red River won't be so easy.
Right off the bat, Texas is going to need income, a lot of it, and that means taxes. No more funds from DC, Texas is on its own for the cash to run its new state. All new treaties with the same countries the US had treaties with, but without the power of the US to make those treaties. Those lucrative military bases, potentially gone. O yea, you hate the federal govt, but love the money those bases make. You have to come up with your own constitution, what are the articles that make it up? I really don't think a single person in Texas has the real political will to make succession actually happen. Just more hot air out of a state full of it.
All pointless cuckoo stuff.
Sounds like the western side of the new state will be CA lite, and the other WY heavy.Homebrew wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:12 pmYup. One of the more recent ideas I've heard about would be to split both Washington and Oregon along the mountain range and making western Washington and Oregon one state and the eastern halves another. This sounds like a better plan to me personally.hawkfan8812 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:58 pmI would support leaving Seattle and Olympia behind, but Idaho can go fuck themselves.Homebrew wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:00 pmWe still do.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:15 pmLast I heard, Eastern Washington State wanted to join with Idaho and leave the Western part.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:28 pmI thought California was the state known for talking about secession?QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:05 pm
But only with the approval of the federal government. That is, can't split on their own volition, legally.
Of course, this whole notion is bullshit and saber rattling. First thing off, that means if Texas decides to become its own country (again, since the feds in the 1830's didn't want it as a state), its citizens are no longer Americans, and have no rights and liberties of acting as Americans. The US Constitution no longer applies to Texas and its citizens. As a country, all international (since Texas will be outside the bounds of the USA, it's now an international state) agreements have to be renegotiated. Mexico (and Canada) may decide you need a visa to enter their countries, which is not needed by Americans. And they provide no mechanism to obtain one. Extra points if the US govt also decides to implement an entry visa. Crossing the Sabine or the Red River won't be so easy.
Right off the bat, Texas is going to need income, a lot of it, and that means taxes. No more funds from DC, Texas is on its own for the cash to run its new state. All new treaties with the same countries the US had treaties with, but without the power of the US to make those treaties. Those lucrative military bases, potentially gone. O yea, you hate the federal govt, but love the money those bases make. You have to come up with your own constitution, what are the articles that make it up? I really don't think a single person in Texas has the real political will to make succession actually happen. Just more hot air out of a state full of it.
All pointless cuckoo stuff.
Maybe we can get them to take the Eastern side of our state too. It would suck to lose Tahoe but they can have Death Valley, Barstow, and the Salton Sea. Palm Springs can be a western protected region like the Gaza Strip.B-Tender wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pmSounds like the western side of the new state will be CA lite, and the other WY heavy.Homebrew wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:12 pmYup. One of the more recent ideas I've heard about would be to split both Washington and Oregon along the mountain range and making western Washington and Oregon one state and the eastern halves another. This sounds like a better plan to me personally.hawkfan8812 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:58 pmI would support leaving Seattle and Olympia behind, but Idaho can go fuck themselves.