Let's make a New Gun Law

[Animal]

Yes you do.

It's doesn't have a chance...at all. But you know that.

All your examples are non comparable. But you know that.

You're responding like a person with a lot of money and not worried that a law costs a lot of money and disproportionately effects poorer people. But you know that too.

what example do you need of a law that punishes the many in order to limit the few? I gave some, but you resort to your canned "comparing apples to bananas" argument. That's always the first sign you are completely out of thoughts. You'll need to watch a few episodes of Tucker Carlson to come up with some slippery slope, virtue signaling, white guilt kind of stuff.

[peterosehaircut]

JFC people.

When the 2nd Amendment was drafted nearly 250 years ago, a "personal" weapon likely couldn't fire at a rate of more than one shot every 8-10 seconds or so.

Don't any of you think there's a little bit of deeper thought required? Let's consider the authors being unable to fathom the capability of death machines currently available on the market.

Guns have been a common tool in the hands of American citizens since our nation's founding. High capacity semi automatic rifles and hand guns have been readily available to the public for over 100 years now, the post office used to deliver them to your house no questions asked. Hell when I was in high school half of the cars in the parking lot had guns in them during hunting season with zero problems.
Even the AR15 platform has been available to the general public since what? The early 60's?
Yet somehow guns are now the problem and not the culture we've become?

[necronomous]

Yes you do.

It's doesn't have a chance...at all. But you know that.

All your examples are non comparable. But you know that.

You're responding like a person with a lot of money and not worried that a law costs a lot of money and disproportionately effects poorer people. But you know that too.

what example do you need of a law that punishes the many in order to limit the few? I gave some, but you resort to your canned "comparing apples to bananas" argument. That's always the first sign you are completely out of thoughts. You'll need to watch a few episodes of Tucker Carlson to come up with some slippery slope, virtue signaling, white guilt kind of stuff.

I don't watch tucker but nice try. I never disagreed that laws punish the many because of the few...why is that the part you're focusing on. That's not the bad comparison part. I agree that laws limit the many because of the few and guess what. THATS THE FUCKING POINT. The reason they aren't comparable is because those are restrictions that ARE NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY GRANTED. So if there are restrictions on those, oh fucking well. But there is a reason we have the right to bear arms as a constitutional amendment, and infringing upon it is wrong.

And I have plenty to say, stop deflecting.

[Antknot]

No slippery slope right

Well damn, there goes ammo prices again.

[saltydog]

No slippery slope right

Well damn, there goes ammo prices again.

Good

[Animal]

JFC people.

When the 2nd Amendment was drafted nearly 250 years ago, a "personal" weapon likely couldn't fire at a rate of more than one shot every 8-10 seconds or so.

Don't any of you think there's a little bit of deeper thought required? Let's consider the authors being unable to fathom the capability of death machines currently available on the market.

Guns have been a common tool in the hands of American citizens since our nation's founding. High capacity semi automatic rifles and hand guns have been readily available to the public for over 100 years now, the post office used to deliver them to your house no questions asked. Hell when I was in high school half of the cars in the parking lot had guns in them during hunting season with zero problems.
Even the AR15 platform has been available to the general public since what? The early 60's?
Yet somehow guns are now the problem and not the culture we've become?

it is definitely the culture that we have become. But how do you keep the ones that are damaged by the culture from getting their hands on the AR-15? That seems to be their weapon of choice. How do you keep it legal to own and buy one and yet keep those idiots from getting one to play into their delusional fantasies? We all know that there is never going to be a mental health obstacle that performs the function of weeding them out of the process.

There are dozens of weapons that have been deemed "destructive devices" and are not legal to own in the US without going through some special hoops. You have to get pre-approved by the ATF. You have to pay for a tax stamp ($200). You have to get additional approval and pay tax stamps on each piece of ammunition. Machine guns, cannons, sawed off shotguns, grenades, bombs, missiles, etc. That law was passed in response to the Al Capone era of lawlessness and heavily armed mobsters. Maybe its time to just add the AR-15 to that list and require the same things to purchase one. Then we aren't making any new laws, just applying an existing law and updating what's on it.

[Burn1dwn]

it is definitely the culture that we have become. But how do you keep the ones that are damaged by the culture from getting their hands on the AR-15? That seems to be their weapon of choice. How do you keep it legal to own and buy one and yet keep those idiots from getting one to play into their delusional fantasies? We all know that there is never going to be a mental health obstacle that performs the function of weeding them out of the process.

There are dozens of weapons that have been deemed "destructive devices" and are not legal to own in the US without going through some special hoops. You have to get pre-approved by the ATF. You have to pay for a tax stamp ($200). You have to get additional approval and pay tax stamps on each piece of ammunition. Machine guns, cannons, sawed off shotguns, grenades, bombs, missiles, etc. That law was passed in response to the Al Capone era of lawlessness and heavily armed mobsters. Maybe its time to just add the AR-15 to that list and require the same things to purchase one. Then we aren't making any new laws, just applying an existing law and updating what's on it.

And that is the annoying thing about this issue, most gun owners are sensible people but it is impossible to take a common sense approach to gun ownership regulation because the 2A nutters won't even agree to waiting periods and special taxes. Making guns harder to obtain is a non-starter for many of them.

Even when there is evidence that waiting periods reduce suicide rates, give time for a proper background check and stop potential shooters from making rash decisions with guns.

Even when the Supreme Court has made it clear that the Legislative branch has the power to do so. It is completely nonsensical.

[necronomous]

it is definitely the culture that we have become. But how do you keep the ones that are damaged by the culture from getting their hands on the AR-15? That seems to be their weapon of choice. How do you keep it legal to own and buy one and yet keep those idiots from getting one to play into their delusional fantasies? We all know that there is never going to be a mental health obstacle that performs the function of weeding them out of the process.

There are dozens of weapons that have been deemed "destructive devices" and are not legal to own in the US without going through some special hoops. You have to get pre-approved by the ATF. You have to pay for a tax stamp ($200). You have to get additional approval and pay tax stamps on each piece of ammunition. Machine guns, cannons, sawed off shotguns, grenades, bombs, missiles, etc. That law was passed in response to the Al Capone era of lawlessness and heavily armed mobsters. Maybe its time to just add the AR-15 to that list and require the same things to purchase one. Then we aren't making any new laws, just applying an existing law and updating what's on it.

And that is the annoying thing about this issue, most gun owners are sensible people but it is impossible to take a common sense approach to gun ownership regulation because the 2A nutters won't even agree to waiting periods and special taxes. Making guns harder to obtain is a non-starter for many of them.

Even when there is evidence that waiting periods reduce suicide rates, give time for a proper background check and stop potential shooters from making rash decisions with guns.

Even when the Supreme Court has made it clear that the Legislative branch has the power to do so. It is completely nonsensical.

How much longer? How much tax? We already have a waiting period, so how much longer? And how much tax? Tax isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the amount Animal was suggesting is just ridiculous. And how far do we keep going. Because now it's the AR 15 that's the weapon of choice, there will be another, do we just keep impeding everyone's constitutional rights, or do we actually solve the real problem of it not being the gun, but the people.

[Animal]

it is definitely the culture that we have become. But how do you keep the ones that are damaged by the culture from getting their hands on the AR-15? That seems to be their weapon of choice. How do you keep it legal to own and buy one and yet keep those idiots from getting one to play into their delusional fantasies? We all know that there is never going to be a mental health obstacle that performs the function of weeding them out of the process.

There are dozens of weapons that have been deemed "destructive devices" and are not legal to own in the US without going through some special hoops. You have to get pre-approved by the ATF. You have to pay for a tax stamp ($200). You have to get additional approval and pay tax stamps on each piece of ammunition. Machine guns, cannons, sawed off shotguns, grenades, bombs, missiles, etc. That law was passed in response to the Al Capone era of lawlessness and heavily armed mobsters. Maybe its time to just add the AR-15 to that list and require the same things to purchase one. Then we aren't making any new laws, just applying an existing law and updating what's on it.

And that is the annoying thing about this issue, most gun owners are sensible people but it is impossible to take a common sense approach to gun ownership regulation because the 2A nutters won't even agree to waiting periods and special taxes. Making guns harder to obtain is a non-starter for many of them.

Even when there is evidence that waiting periods reduce suicide rates, give time for a proper background check and stop potential shooters from making rash decisions with guns.

Even when the Supreme Court has made it clear that the Legislative branch has the power to do so. It is completely nonsensical.

How much longer? How much tax? We already have a waiting period, so how much longer? And how much tax? Tax isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the amount Animal was suggesting is just ridiculous. And how far do we keep going. Because now it's the AR 15 that's the weapon of choice, there will be another, do we just keep impeding everyone's constitutional rights, or do we actually solve the real problem of it not being the gun, but the people.

I think we do both. We first limit their access to guns, while you guys get to work on the mental health aspects. Imagine it as two lines (one is gun control and one is mental health) and at some point those two lines will converge. But its up to everyone how long that takes. If you are really concerned about protecting gun rights, then you better get to work on mental health. Because that's what's going to stop it from expanding.

And, what waiting period do we already have? Explain this waiting period that we have right now.

[Animal]

i think i found where Necro gets his solutions to the mass shootings. If you close your eyes, you can almost imagine its him talking. Just the first minute and half.

[necronomous]

it is definitely the culture that we have become. But how do you keep the ones that are damaged by the culture from getting their hands on the AR-15? That seems to be their weapon of choice. How do you keep it legal to own and buy one and yet keep those idiots from getting one to play into their delusional fantasies? We all know that there is never going to be a mental health obstacle that performs the function of weeding them out of the process.

There are dozens of weapons that have been deemed "destructive devices" and are not legal to own in the US without going through some special hoops. You have to get pre-approved by the ATF. You have to pay for a tax stamp ($200). You have to get additional approval and pay tax stamps on each piece of ammunition. Machine guns, cannons, sawed off shotguns, grenades, bombs, missiles, etc. That law was passed in response to the Al Capone era of lawlessness and heavily armed mobsters. Maybe its time to just add the AR-15 to that list and require the same things to purchase one. Then we aren't making any new laws, just applying an existing law and updating what's on it.

And that is the annoying thing about this issue, most gun owners are sensible people but it is impossible to take a common sense approach to gun ownership regulation because the 2A nutters won't even agree to waiting periods and special taxes. Making guns harder to obtain is a non-starter for many of them.

Even when there is evidence that waiting periods reduce suicide rates, give time for a proper background check and stop potential shooters from making rash decisions with guns.

Even when the Supreme Court has made it clear that the Legislative branch has the power to do so. It is completely nonsensical.

How much longer? How much tax? We already have a waiting period, so how much longer? And how much tax? Tax isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the amount Animal was suggesting is just ridiculous. And how far do we keep going. Because now it's the AR 15 that's the weapon of choice, there will be another, do we just keep impeding everyone's constitutional rights, or do we actually solve the real problem of it not being the gun, but the people.

I think we do both. We first limit their access to guns, while you guys get to work on the mental health aspects. Imagine it as two lines (one is gun control and one is mental health) and at some point those two lines will converge. But its up to everyone how long that takes. If you are really concerned about protecting gun rights, then you better get to work on mental health. Because that's what's going to stop it from expanding.

And, what waiting period do we already have? Explain this waiting period that we have right now.

We had to wait a week to get a background check done.

[necronomous]

i think i found where Necro gets his solutions to the mass shootings. If you close your eyes, you can almost imagine its him talking. Just the first minute and half.

Don't know what that is.

[Animal]

it is definitely the culture that we have become. But how do you keep the ones that are damaged by the culture from getting their hands on the AR-15? That seems to be their weapon of choice. How do you keep it legal to own and buy one and yet keep those idiots from getting one to play into their delusional fantasies? We all know that there is never going to be a mental health obstacle that performs the function of weeding them out of the process.

There are dozens of weapons that have been deemed "destructive devices" and are not legal to own in the US without going through some special hoops. You have to get pre-approved by the ATF. You have to pay for a tax stamp ($200). You have to get additional approval and pay tax stamps on each piece of ammunition. Machine guns, cannons, sawed off shotguns, grenades, bombs, missiles, etc. That law was passed in response to the Al Capone era of lawlessness and heavily armed mobsters. Maybe its time to just add the AR-15 to that list and require the same things to purchase one. Then we aren't making any new laws, just applying an existing law and updating what's on it.

And that is the annoying thing about this issue, most gun owners are sensible people but it is impossible to take a common sense approach to gun ownership regulation because the 2A nutters won't even agree to waiting periods and special taxes. Making guns harder to obtain is a non-starter for many of them.

Even when there is evidence that waiting periods reduce suicide rates, give time for a proper background check and stop potential shooters from making rash decisions with guns.

Even when the Supreme Court has made it clear that the Legislative branch has the power to do so. It is completely nonsensical.

How much longer? How much tax? We already have a waiting period, so how much longer? And how much tax? Tax isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the amount Animal was suggesting is just ridiculous. And how far do we keep going. Because now it's the AR 15 that's the weapon of choice, there will be another, do we just keep impeding everyone's constitutional rights, or do we actually solve the real problem of it not being the gun, but the people.

I think we do both. We first limit their access to guns, while you guys get to work on the mental health aspects. Imagine it as two lines (one is gun control and one is mental health) and at some point those two lines will converge. But its up to everyone how long that takes. If you are really concerned about protecting gun rights, then you better get to work on mental health. Because that's what's going to stop it from expanding.

And, what waiting period do we already have? Explain this waiting period that we have right now.

We had to wait a week to get a background check done.

I don't know what state you are in, but there are very few states that require any kind of waiting period for any gun purchase. I think there are 7 states. The last AR I bought, I was probably at the place 15 minutes until I was walking out the door with it.

California – 10 days
District of Columbia – 10 days
Florida – 3 days or the time it takes to complete required background checks, whichever occurs later
Hawaii – 14 days
Illinois – 72 hours
Rhode Island – 7 days
Minnesota - 7 days (on handguns and assault rifles only)
Washgington - 10 days (semiautomatic rifles only)

There is no federal law on waiting periods.

[necronomous]

it is definitely the culture that we have become. But how do you keep the ones that are damaged by the culture from getting their hands on the AR-15? That seems to be their weapon of choice. How do you keep it legal to own and buy one and yet keep those idiots from getting one to play into their delusional fantasies? We all know that there is never going to be a mental health obstacle that performs the function of weeding them out of the process.

There are dozens of weapons that have been deemed "destructive devices" and are not legal to own in the US without going through some special hoops. You have to get pre-approved by the ATF. You have to pay for a tax stamp ($200). You have to get additional approval and pay tax stamps on each piece of ammunition. Machine guns, cannons, sawed off shotguns, grenades, bombs, missiles, etc. That law was passed in response to the Al Capone era of lawlessness and heavily armed mobsters. Maybe its time to just add the AR-15 to that list and require the same things to purchase one. Then we aren't making any new laws, just applying an existing law and updating what's on it.

And that is the annoying thing about this issue, most gun owners are sensible people but it is impossible to take a common sense approach to gun ownership regulation because the 2A nutters won't even agree to waiting periods and special taxes. Making guns harder to obtain is a non-starter for many of them.

Even when there is evidence that waiting periods reduce suicide rates, give time for a proper background check and stop potential shooters from making rash decisions with guns.

Even when the Supreme Court has made it clear that the Legislative branch has the power to do so. It is completely nonsensical.

How much longer? How much tax? We already have a waiting period, so how much longer? And how much tax? Tax isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the amount Animal was suggesting is just ridiculous. And how far do we keep going. Because now it's the AR 15 that's the weapon of choice, there will be another, do we just keep impeding everyone's constitutional rights, or do we actually solve the real problem of it not being the gun, but the people.

I think we do both. We first limit their access to guns, while you guys get to work on the mental health aspects. Imagine it as two lines (one is gun control and one is mental health) and at some point those two lines will converge. But its up to everyone how long that takes. If you are really concerned about protecting gun rights, then you better get to work on mental health. Because that's what's going to stop it from expanding.

And, what waiting period do we already have? Explain this waiting period that we have right now.

We had to wait a week to get a background check done.

I don't know what state you are in, but there are very few states that require any kind of waiting period for any gun purchase. I think there are 7 states. The last AR I bought, I was probably at the place 15 minutes until I was walking out the door with it.

California – 10 days
District of Columbia – 10 days
Florida – 3 days or the time it takes to complete required background checks, whichever occurs later
Hawaii – 14 days
Illinois – 72 hours
Rhode Island – 7 days
Minnesota - 7 days (on handguns and assault rifles only)
Washgington - 10 days (semiautomatic rifles only)

There is no federal law on waiting periods.

As there shouldn't be. That being said, still had to wait a week on a background check.

[Animal]

As there shouldn't be. That being said, still had to wait a week on a background check.

So its all just about the convenience for you personally. How long it takes, what it costs, etc. Body counts don't matter.

[saltydog]

As there shouldn't be. That being said, still had to wait a week on a background check.

So its all just about the convenience for you personally. How long it takes, what it costs, etc. Body counts don't matter.

It's the American Way.

[Animal]

As there shouldn't be. That being said, still had to wait a week on a background check.

So its all just about the convenience for you personally. How long it takes, what it costs, etc. Body counts don't matter.

It's the American Way.

Necro is just standing up for the rights of the impatient, selfish, and poor. Because any changes would have a huge impact on his family.

[necronomous]

As there shouldn't be. That being said, still had to wait a week on a background check.

So its all just about the convenience for you personally. How long it takes, what it costs, etc. Body counts don't matter.

Nice straw man. If that makes your virtue signaling feel better.
20k people die on the road from accidents but we aren't getting rid of cars. Well the intention wasn't to kill. Yeah but they died.

Heart related deaths are the highest death count. Company's who serve us sugar related products know it's them so they are willingly killing us. It's intentional. You going after them?

Handguns are the highest death count among guns. You going after them? Or do little black kids not matter to you?
In fact there are several school shootings each year in poorer neighborhoods. Where was your concern then?

Most gun deaths are suicide. After the person commits suicide, I think we should arrest the adults left behind because they agreed to have the gun in most cases.

Flu related deaths are 12 to 60k each year (except last year). We can actually stop the flu with masks. We don't wear them. Apparently 12 to 60k is an acceptable death loss for you. You don't care about people dying from the flu do you?

All we can do right? That's your motto now, so let's start taking shit down. Yeah that's what I thought. Virtue signaling. You sound like BLM going after cops though they are the ones that kill black people the least. No they don't really attack the problem either. Like you.

[Animal]

As there shouldn't be. That being said, still had to wait a week on a background check.

So its all just about the convenience for you personally. How long it takes, what it costs, etc. Body counts don't matter.

Nice straw man. If that makes your virtue signaling feel better.
20k people die on the road from accidents but we aren't getting rid of cars. Well the intention wasn't to kill. Yeah but they died.

Heart related deaths are the highest death count. Company's who serve us sugar related products know it's them so they are willingly killing us. It's intentional. You going after them?

Handguns are the highest death count among guns. You going after them? Or do little black kids not matter to you?
In fact there are several school shootings each year in poorer neighborhoods. Where was your concern then?

Most gun deaths are suicide. After the person commits suicide, I think we should arrest the adults left behind because they agreed to have the gun in most cases.

Flu related deaths are 12 to 60k each year (except last year). We can actually stop the flu with masks. We don't wear them. Apparently 12 to 60k is an acceptable death loss for you. You don't care about people dying from the flu do you?

All we can do right? That's your motto now, so let's start taking shit down. Yeah that's what I thought. Virtue signaling. You sound like BLM going after cops though they are the ones that kill black people the least. No they don't really attack the problem either. Like you.

if that is honestly your argument, then you are obviously way too stupid to have an opinion on this. Thanks though.

[necronomous]

As there shouldn't be. That being said, still had to wait a week on a background check.

So its all just about the convenience for you personally. How long it takes, what it costs, etc. Body counts don't matter.

Nice straw man. If that makes your virtue signaling feel better.
20k people die on the road from accidents but we aren't getting rid of cars. Well the intention wasn't to kill. Yeah but they died.

Heart related deaths are the highest death count. Company's who serve us sugar related products know it's them so they are willingly killing us. It's intentional. You going after them?

Handguns are the highest death count among guns. You going after them? Or do little black kids not matter to you?
In fact there are several school shootings each year in poorer neighborhoods. Where was your concern then?

Most gun deaths are suicide. After the person commits suicide, I think we should arrest the adults left behind because they agreed to have the gun in most cases.

Flu related deaths are 12 to 60k each year (except last year). We can actually stop the flu with masks. We don't wear them. Apparently 12 to 60k is an acceptable death loss for you. You don't care about people dying from the flu do you?

All we can do right? That's your motto now, so let's start taking shit down. Yeah that's what I thought. Virtue signaling. You sound like BLM going after cops though they are the ones that kill black people the least. No they don't really attack the problem either. Like you.

if that is honestly your argument, then you are obviously way too stupid to have an opinion on this. Thanks though.

So I do to you what you do to me, and then accuse me of being too stupid after doing what you did. Nice job talk about not having a good argument.

Also, why don't you want to address those things? Especially the sugar things. They are willfully killing us. It's murder by the thousands.

[Animal]

Nice straw man. If that makes your virtue signaling feel better.
20k people die on the road from accidents but we aren't getting rid of cars. Well the intention wasn't to kill. Yeah but they died.

Heart related deaths are the highest death count. Company's who serve us sugar related products know it's them so they are willingly killing us. It's intentional. You going after them?

Handguns are the highest death count among guns. You going after them? Or do little black kids not matter to you?
In fact there are several school shootings each year in poorer neighborhoods. Where was your concern then?

Most gun deaths are suicide. After the person commits suicide, I think we should arrest the adults left behind because they agreed to have the gun in most cases.

Flu related deaths are 12 to 60k each year (except last year). We can actually stop the flu with masks. We don't wear them. Apparently 12 to 60k is an acceptable death loss for you. You don't care about people dying from the flu do you?

All we can do right? That's your motto now, so let's start taking shit down. Yeah that's what I thought. Virtue signaling. You sound like BLM going after cops though they are the ones that kill black people the least. No they don't really attack the problem either. Like you.

if that is honestly your argument, then you are obviously way too stupid to have an opinion on this. Thanks though.

So I do to you what you do to me, and then accuse me of being too stupid after doing what you did. Nice job

Also, why don't you want to address those things? Especially the sugar things. They are willfully killing us. It's murder by the thousands.

Look moron.

I don't even know how many billions of dollars are spent on automobile safety each year. Are you so braindead that you don't understand the leaps and bounds that car safety has achieved in your lifetime? Do you know what an airbag is? Or a backup camera? Take a guess at why a windshield costs so much to replace. Or guess what driver assist is. Have you heard of autonomous driving and do you know what the point of it is going to be?

Did you know that only about half the adults in the US get a flu vaccine each year? And do you know why that number is so low? Its because of fucktards, like yourself, that spread rumors about how vaccines don't work.

Now, how about my virtue signaling for those wealthy white kids in Uvalde that died in the school shooting. Do you know what the median income for a person living in Uvalde is? Its $18,000 a year. And your chances of finding someone that speaks spanish are far greater than a person that speaks english. So don't think you are going to lecture me on the plight of the poor people. Unless I'm wrong, I'm the one trying to find a solution so that those events can't happen again. You, on the other hand are worried about the inconvenience that might inflict on you and the rights you feel so entitled to.

Most of those handgun deaths you are talking about are at the hands of people that acquired a handgun illegally. Which is not what we are talking about. If we were talking about that, then you wouldn't be flapping about your constitutional rights.

And I don't even know what the fuck your point is about suicide. Maybe you should try it.

[necronomous]

Nice straw man. If that makes your virtue signaling feel better.
20k people die on the road from accidents but we aren't getting rid of cars. Well the intention wasn't to kill. Yeah but they died.

Heart related deaths are the highest death count. Company's who serve us sugar related products know it's them so they are willingly killing us. It's intentional. You going after them?

Handguns are the highest death count among guns. You going after them? Or do little black kids not matter to you?
In fact there are several school shootings each year in poorer neighborhoods. Where was your concern then?

Most gun deaths are suicide. After the person commits suicide, I think we should arrest the adults left behind because they agreed to have the gun in most cases.

Flu related deaths are 12 to 60k each year (except last year). We can actually stop the flu with masks. We don't wear them. Apparently 12 to 60k is an acceptable death loss for you. You don't care about people dying from the flu do you?

All we can do right? That's your motto now, so let's start taking shit down. Yeah that's what I thought. Virtue signaling. You sound like BLM going after cops though they are the ones that kill black people the least. No they don't really attack the problem either. Like you.

if that is honestly your argument, then you are obviously way too stupid to have an opinion on this. Thanks though.

So I do to you what you do to me, and then accuse me of being too stupid after doing what you did. Nice job

Also, why don't you want to address those things? Especially the sugar things. They are willfully killing us. It's murder by the thousands.

Look moron.

I don't even know how many billions of dollars are spent on automobile safety each year. Are you so braindead that you don't understand the leaps and bounds that car safety has achieved in your lifetime? Do you know what an airbag is? Or a backup camera? Take a guess at why a windshield costs so much to replace. Or guess what driver assist is. Have you heard of autonomous driving and do you know what the point of it is going to be?

Did you know that only about half the adults in the US get a flu vaccine each year? And do you know why that number is so low? Its because of fucktards, like yourself, that spread rumors about how vaccines don't work.

Now, how about my virtue signaling for those wealthy white kids in Uvalde that died in the school shooting. Do you know what the median income for a person living in Uvalde is? Its $18,000 a year. And your chances of finding someone that speaks spanish are far greater than a person that speaks english. So don't think you are going to lecture me on the plight of the poor people. Unless I'm wrong, I'm the one trying to find a solution so that those events can't happen again. You, on the other hand are worried about the inconvenience that might inflict on you and the rights you feel so entitled to.

Most of those handgun deaths you are talking about are at the hands of people that acquired a handgun illegally. Which is not what we are talking about. If we were talking about that, then you wouldn't be flapping about your constitutional rights.

And I don't even know what the fuck your point is about suicide. Maybe you should try it.

Look moron. Right back at you.

I don't even know how many billions of dollars are spent on automobile safety each year. Are you so braindead that you don't understand the leaps and bounds that car safety has achieved in your lifetime? Do you know what an airbag is? Or a backup camera? Take a guess at why a windshield costs so much to replace. Or guess what driver assist is. Have you heard of autonomous driving and do you know what the point of it is going to be?

And yet 20k still die. It's like we aren't addressing the real problem huh.

Did you know that only about half the adults in the US get a flu vaccine each year? And do you know why that number is so low? Its because of fucktards, like yourself, that spread rumors about how vaccines don't work.

I get the flu vaccine. I don't talk about how it doesn't work. I also didn't talk about how the Corona one worked either. I was proving you're inept at understanding people and situations like this one. You love to strawman. Also that doesn't address the fact that you could be masking now which actually has an effect against the flu unlike Corona. But you don't. Because you virtue signal.

Now, how about my virtue signaling for those wealthy white kids in Uvalde that died in the school shooting. Do you know what the median income for a person living in Uvalde is? Its $18,000 a year. And your chances of finding someone that speaks spanish are far greater than a person that speaks english. So don't think you are going to lecture me on the plight of the poor people. Unless I'm wrong, I'm the one trying to find a solution so that those events can't happen again. You, on the other hand are worried about the inconvenience that might inflict on you and the rights you feel so entitled to.

You're virtue signaling because you don't care as much as you pretend to, or you would actually give a damn about out the ones you haven't discussed. Like the sugar industry willfully killing people, or gang violence. But you don't because you are clearly a virtue signaler

Most of those handgun deaths you are talking about are at the hands of people that acquired a handgun illegally. Which is not what we are talking about. If we were talking about that, then you wouldn't be flapping about your constitutional rights.

Most school shootings are done by guns that are illegally obtained as well. You're just leaving off those pesky black kids.
And I don't even know what the fuck your point is about suicide. Maybe you should try it.

suicide is the leading killer of people... usually with handguns, but of all gun deaths. Why not push to get rid of guns altogether?
Also I disagree with you. And on somethings I agree with you. But I have always considered you a decent person. And I always thought we were cool with each other. But to wish me to commit suicide. Yeah I see what kind of person you really are. As low as AH I see.

I know it doesn't mean anything to you, but I had genuine respect for you. Now I see you're just a piece of shit.

And no need to tell me you didn't care, or I never mattered, or because I'm too stupid, or what have you. You've already proved you're ignorant, no need to double down.

[Animal]

And no need to tell me you didn't care, or I never mattered, or because I'm too stupid, or what have you. You've already proved you're ignorant, no need to double down.

you have to admit, when a thread is started about a particular event and a single issue, and then you split off into every conceivable issue you can think of and start throwing around buzzwords you read on facebook, like virtue signaling, goalposts, strawmen, and such, then you are pretty stupid. am i right?

[Burn1dwn]

Do you two need to be put in the corner for time-outs?

So anyways....Necro, you are against waiting periods (or longer background checks) for AR-15s but not handguns? Or against the waiting periods all together?

As a champion of mental health, would the tangible evidence that waiting periods help lower suicide rates come into your line of thinking? Or is any infringement on your right to bear arms wrong in your opinion.

I can't imagine you believe uzis should be legal?

[Animal]

obviously you don't care about poor black kids. duh.