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And before the knee jerkers chime in, yes, I believe Islamic schools deserve the same treatment as Chirstian and Jew ones

Supreme Court rules Maine tuition program violates First Amendment for excluding religious schools

The Supreme Court ruled in the case of Carson v. Makin


The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 Tuesday that a Maine tuition assistance program violated the First Amendment's Free Exercise Clause for excluding religious schools from eligibility.

The program provides tuition assistance for students without a local public school to attend private institutions – as long as the funding is not used for religious or "sectarian" teaching.

"Maine’s ‘nonsectarian’ requirement for its otherwise generally available tuition assistance payments violates the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the court's opinion in the case of Carson v. Maykin. "Regardless of how the benefit and restriction are described, the program operates to identify and exclude otherwise eligible schools on the basis of their religious exercise."

Roberts stated that with Maine providing the benefit of tuition assistance, they cannot condition those benefits in a way that "effectively penalizes the free exercise of religion."

Religious schools were allowed under the program before 1981, but then Maine adopted its "non-sectarian" requirement, citing the First Amendment. Roberts noted that this addition was made after Maine’s attorney general determined that funding private religious schools would violate the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause. The Supreme Court ruled in 2002 that a program where private citizens made the decision as to where the money was going would not violate the clause.

The Supreme Court made that same determination on Tuesday.

"[A] neutral benefit program in which public funds flow to religious organizations through the independent choices of private benefit recipients does not offend the Establishment Clause," Roberts wrote.

A lower court ruling in Maine's favor had said that the real benefit was not tuition assistance, but the provision of the "rough equivalent of the public school education that Maine may permissible require to be secular."
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I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:34 pm I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
Don't get too comfortable. You know liberals: when they can't win (like the 2020 election), they change the rules. Don't put it past them to add 4 more seats and install more liberal activists as justices. Four more carbon copies of that evil, corrupt old cunt Ruth Vader Ginsburg, may she rot in hell.
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Deathproof wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:43 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:34 pm I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
Don't get too comfortable. You know liberals: when they can't win (like the 2020 election), they change the rules. Don't put it past them to add 4 more seats and install more liberal activists as justices. Four more carbon copies of that evil, corrupt old cunt Ruth Vader Ginsburg, may she rot in hell.
Wonderful representation of humanity you two.
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saltydog wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:50 pm
Deathproof wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:43 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:34 pm I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
Don't get too comfortable. You know liberals: when they can't win (like the 2020 election), they change the rules. Don't put it past them to add 4 more seats and install more liberal activists as justices. Four more carbon copies of that evil, corrupt old cunt Ruth Vader Ginsburg, may she rot in hell.
Wonderful representation of humanity you two.
Don't lump me in with his opinions- I have my own. I totally agree with him about RVG but the whole court packing is never happening. FDR tried it back in the 1930's and probably the biggest stain of his 3 term Presidency. Of course, Liberals back then had scruples like putting Country before Party. Now- not so much.
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:05 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:50 pm
Deathproof wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:43 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:34 pm I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
Don't get too comfortable. You know liberals: when they can't win (like the 2020 election), they change the rules. Don't put it past them to add 4 more seats and install more liberal activists as justices. Four more carbon copies of that evil, corrupt old cunt Ruth Vader Ginsburg, may she rot in hell.
Wonderful representation of humanity you two.
Don't lump me in with his opinions- I have my own. I totally agree with him about RVG but the whole court packing is never happening. FDR tried it back in the 1930's and probably the biggest stain of his 3 term Presidency. Of course, Liberals back then had scruples like putting Country before Party. Now- not so much.
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:05 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:50 pm
Deathproof wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:43 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:34 pm I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
Don't get too comfortable. You know liberals: when they can't win (like the 2020 election), they change the rules. Don't put it past them to add 4 more seats and install more liberal activists as justices. Four more carbon copies of that evil, corrupt old cunt Ruth Vader Ginsburg, may she rot in hell.
Wonderful representation of humanity you two.
Don't lump me in with his opinions- I have my own. I totally agree with him about RVG but the whole court packing is never happening. FDR tried it back in the 1930's and probably the biggest stain of his 3 term Presidency. Of course, Liberals back then had scruples like putting Country before Party. Now- not so much.
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Animal wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:11 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:05 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:50 pm
Deathproof wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:43 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:34 pm I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
Don't get too comfortable. You know liberals: when they can't win (like the 2020 election), they change the rules. Don't put it past them to add 4 more seats and install more liberal activists as justices. Four more carbon copies of that evil, corrupt old cunt Ruth Vader Ginsburg, may she rot in hell.
Wonderful representation of humanity you two.
Don't lump me in with his opinions- I have my own. I totally agree with him about RVG but the whole court packing is never happening. FDR tried it back in the 1930's and probably the biggest stain of his 3 term Presidency. Of course, Liberals back then had scruples like putting Country before Party. Now- not so much.
* 4 terms.
3 terms and dead in his mistresses arm at Hot Springs Ga starting his 4th. If you've ever seen photos of his butch wife Eleanor, probably see why 3 is more appropriate.
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CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:22 pm 3 terms and dead in his mistresses arm at Hot Springs Ga starting his 4th. If you've ever seen photos of his butch wife Eleanor, probably see why 3 is more appropriate.
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Eleanor was still a butch/Dyke. Just ask Who.
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Animal wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:47 pm
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Animal wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:47 pm
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Animal wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:47 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:22 pm 3 terms and dead in his mistresses arm at Hot Springs Ga starting his 4th. If you've ever seen photos of his butch wife Eleanor, probably see why 3 is more appropriate.
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Any objections taxing churches?
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saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
Like Republicans pay taxes, :lol: :lol:
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Who wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:53 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
Like Republicans pay taxes, :lol: :lol:
if we don't, then why is the platform of every democrat to raise taxes on republicans?
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saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
I've always been of the opinion that churches absolutely should pay taxes. But so should Jewish temples and whatever the muslims call their terrorist training centers. There's no legitimate reason for any of them to be tax-exempt.
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saltydog wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:50 pm
Deathproof wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:43 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:34 pm I hope the Liberal wing of SCOTUS gets really really used to being on the losing side 6-3 for the next 20 years. Trump flipped almost 1/3 the Court with young Conservative justices in only 4 years. It's the main reason I voted for him in 2016 knowing what Cackles would do with the same opportunity. Disaster averted.
Don't get too comfortable. You know liberals: when they can't win (like the 2020 election), they change the rules. Don't put it past them to add 4 more seats and install more liberal activists as justices. Four more carbon copies of that evil, corrupt old cunt Ruth Vader Ginsburg, may she rot in hell.
Wonderful representation of humanity you two.
That's the thing: we are. Conservatives are better people than your crowd. I get that that's hard for you to admit, what with ingrained, misguided, unearned sense of moral superiority you liberals like to assume, but its a fact. You aren't the good guys.
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saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
Absolutely tax them. I could see at a lower rate though and if they want to get political then they can pay a regular rate like the rest of us.
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Roe v. Wade overturned

Another "Major win for choice!", Biker?
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Animal wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:27 am
Who wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:53 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
Like Republicans pay taxes, :lol: :lol:
if we don't, then why is the platform of every democrat to raise taxes on republicans?
Like Republicans pay taxes :lol:
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Who wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:49 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:27 am
Who wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:53 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
Like Republicans pay taxes, :lol: :lol:
if we don't, then why is the platform of every democrat to raise taxes on republicans?
Like Republicans pay taxes :lol:
Shall we list all the high profile Democrats that were charged with tax evasion over the years vs GOP, or nah?

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Who wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:53 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
Like Republicans pay taxes, :lol: :lol:
As if the country would work if 85% of the tax payers stopped paying taxes.
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Biker wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:35 pm
Who wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:49 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:27 am
Who wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:53 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:41 am Any objections taxing churches?
Like Republicans pay taxes, :lol: :lol:
if we don't, then why is the platform of every democrat to raise taxes on republicans?
Like Republicans pay taxes :lol:
Shall we list all the high profile Democrats that were charged with tax evasion over the years vs GOP, or nah?

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