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More perspective and stats that emo Salty doesnt want you to see. Just rely on emotion!!!11!!!11!!

How many people die from gun-related injuries in the U.S. each year?

In 2021, the most recent year for which complete data is available, 48,830 people died from gun-related injuries in the U.S., according to the CDC. That figure includes gun murders and gun suicides, along with three less common types of gun-related deaths tracked by the CDC: those that were accidental, those that involved law enforcement and those whose circumstances could not be determined. The total excludes deaths in which gunshot injuries played a contributing, but not principal, role. (CDC fatality statistics are based on information contained in official death certificates, which identify a single cause of death.)



What share of U.S. gun deaths are murders and what share are suicides?

Though they tend to get less public attention than gun-related murders, suicides have long accounted for the majority of U.S. gun deaths. In 2021, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (26,328), while 43% were murders (20,958), according to the CDC. The remaining gun deaths that year were accidental (549), involved law enforcement (537) or had undetermined circumstances (458).

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... n-the-u-s/
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Animal wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:46 am
FSchmertz wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 5:52 pm Reading the linked article:

Garcia underwent firearms proficiency training for his work as a commissioned security officer


...


Garcia was approved to work as a security guard in Texas from April 2016 until April 2020, when his license expired
Oh boy, that makes me feel "very secure."


I have some doubts about their background/mental health testing then.
i thought i heard on the news that he was in the military and was discharged because of mental illness?
If so, did that happen before he went into the "security biz"?

Anyhow, that linked article only talked about security training, including gun use.
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm

Number of death in 2022: 3.27 million
Number of gun murders 2022: 21k
= 0.64%

Now break that down into gang/drug related murders: To be conservative, probally 50%
=0.32%


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TAKE DA GUNZ!!!!!
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Gun deaths = acceptable

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U.S. Traffic Deaths Estimated to Rise to 46,000 For 2022

Traffic levels are still down four percent over pre-COVID-19 levels, but deaths are up nearly 22 percent since 2020.


For all of 2021, traffic deaths were at a 16-year high, at around 43,000. In response, the federal government did basically nothing besides promise some future programs and funding, and we likely will get another record-breaking year in 2022 for car crash fatalities, according to a recent estimate.
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Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 2:13 am
U.S. Traffic Deaths Estimated to Rise to 46,000 For 2022

Traffic levels are still down four percent over pre-COVID-19 levels, but deaths are up nearly 22 percent since 2020.


For all of 2021, traffic deaths were at a 16-year high, at around 43,000. In response, the federal government did basically nothing besides promise some future programs and funding, and we likely will get another record-breaking year in 2022 for car crash fatalities, according to a recent estimate.
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Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:57 am https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm

Number of death in 2022: 3.27 million
Number of gun murders 2022: 21k
= 0.64%

Now break that down into gang/drug related murders: To be conservative, probally 50%
=0.32%


EmoSalty's answer?

TAKE DA GUNZ!!!!!
Critical thinking is not part of the plan for this group.
Realistically, a child is probably more likely to die in a traffic accident on the way to school than in a school shooting.
Now Salty will of course say that a statement like that means I am ok with school shootings. No, it just means that there is actual real world data and facts that have to be considered. What am I doing about this? Locally in our district we are pushing for a rotating dedicated police officer to be on school grounds throughout the school year.
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FSchmertz wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:54 am
Animal wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:46 am
FSchmertz wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 5:52 pm Reading the linked article:

Garcia underwent firearms proficiency training for his work as a commissioned security officer


...


Garcia was approved to work as a security guard in Texas from April 2016 until April 2020, when his license expired
Oh boy, that makes me feel "very secure."


I have some doubts about their background/mental health testing then.
i thought i heard on the news that he was in the military and was discharged because of mental illness?
If so, did that happen before he went into the "security biz"?

Anyhow, that linked article only talked about security training, including gun use.
Probably. He was discharged from the Army 10 or 15 years ago for being mentally crazy. I don't think he even completed basic training before they realized he was sick in the head. I think we are going to find that there is no better example for alarm bells about a person being a mental threat and this guy.

He is an example of a guy that wanted to commit suicide and in the process take out as many people as possible to get some headlines. Which he got.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 11:25 am Now Salty will of course say that a statement like that means I am ok with school shootings. No, it just means that there is actual real world data and facts that have to be considered. What am I doing about this? Locally in our district we are pushing for a rotating dedicated police officer to be on school grounds throughout the school year.
Its a female thing to be blindly led by emotions so you and I couldnt possibly understand the logic
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Animal wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:45 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:54 am
Animal wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:46 am
FSchmertz wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 5:52 pm Reading the linked article:

Garcia underwent firearms proficiency training for his work as a commissioned security officer


...


Garcia was approved to work as a security guard in Texas from April 2016 until April 2020, when his license expired
Oh boy, that makes me feel "very secure."


I have some doubts about their background/mental health testing then.
i thought i heard on the news that he was in the military and was discharged because of mental illness?
If so, did that happen before he went into the "security biz"?

Anyhow, that linked article only talked about security training, including gun use.
Probably. He was discharged from the Army 10 or 15 years ago for being mentally crazy. I don't think he even completed basic training before they realized he was sick in the head. I think we are going to find that there is no better example for alarm bells about a person being a mental threat and this guy.

He is an example of a guy that wanted to commit suicide and in the process take out as many people as possible to get some headlines. Which he got.
Yeah, sounds like the security training people may have some explaining to do if the dude got a less than honorable discharge and still qualified for their programs (much less that he got employment in that field).

And it also leads to the question of whether or not the guy should've been able to get a gun permit.

P.S. It's not as simple as the anti-gunz crowd seems to think. So not all lefties (or centrists as I claim to be) are on board with that stuff.
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This is an article written by Malcolm Gladwell 8 years ago about school shootings. I remember reading a different version of it in one of his books. It involves nuance, so it may be ill-fitted for some of our members.

https://www.newyorker.com/ ...
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FSchmertz wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 4:03 pmYeah, sounds like the security training people may have some explaining to do if the dude got a less than honorable discharge and still qualified for their programs (much less that he got employment in that field).

And it also leads to the question of whether or not the guy should've been able to get a gun permit.

P.S. It's not as simple as the anti-gunz crowd seems to think. So not all lefties (or centrists as I claim to be) are on board with that stuff.
I can't imagine that security companies wouldn't require pretty specific background checks and a discharge from the army because of mental health problems would (should) be a red flag that can't be dismissed. But, with health privacy laws like they are, maybe the Army can't divulge that information in a background check. It says that since his discharge he has worked for 3 different security companies. But he lost his license to do that work 3 years ago, so who knows what he has been doing for $$ the past 3 years. The police searched his parents house, so he might have lived there on and off, and they said he had recently been living in a motel room or one of those weekly rental motel type places.

there is literally nothing that you can read about this guy that doesn't scream "C-R-A-Z-Y!!!!!".
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Biker wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 pm
disco.moon wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:42 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 6:37 pm
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All emotion and completely devoid of logic, statistics, and reason. But thats what women do
Of course.
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saltydog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:00 am
Bump
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:00 am
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Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
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disco.moon wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:34 pm
Biker wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 pm
disco.moon wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:42 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 6:37 pm
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All emotion and completely devoid of logic, statistics, and reason. But thats what women do
Of course.
Giving you people the right to vote has been counter productive, to say the least
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Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:46 pm
disco.moon wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:34 pm
Biker wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:48 pm
disco.moon wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:42 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 6:37 pm
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All emotion and completely devoid of logic, statistics, and reason. But thats what women do
Of course.
Giving you people the right to vote has been counter productive, to say the least
Oh, most definitely.
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Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:00 am
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Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:00 am
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Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
They had the House and 60 senate seats, Rick.
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Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm
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Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
They had the House and 60 senate seats, Rick.
They had a supermajority for 72 days, Forrest.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:03 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:00 am
Bump
Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
They had the House and 60 senate seats, Rick.
They had a supermajority for 72 days, Forrest.
Nope, but whatever. How come they didnt do it then? You know, it was such a pressing issue and all
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Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:04 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:03 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm

Bump
Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
They had the House and 60 senate seats, Rick.
They had a supermajority for 72 days, Forrest.
Nope, but whatever. How come they didnt do it then? You know, it was such a pressing issue and all
Please try to know what you're talking about.
However, the Senate supermajority only lasted for a period of 72 working days while the Senate was actually in session.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_Uni ... s_Congress
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:03 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 1:00 am
Bump
Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
They had the House and 60 senate seats, Rick.
They had a supermajority for 72 days, Forrest.
72 working days while the Senate was in session. Which was actually over a year. It ended in February 2010.
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Animal wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:12 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:03 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:43 pm

Bump
Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
They had the House and 60 senate seats, Rick.
They had a supermajority for 72 days, Forrest.
72 working days while the Senate was in session. Which was actually over a year. It ended in February 2010.
No. The Senate was in session for a total of 191 days that year.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:20 pm
Animal wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:12 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 10:03 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 pm

Democrats had a super majority for a year and a half during obamas first term. Why no action then?
No. They didn't.
They had the House and 60 senate seats, Rick.
They had a supermajority for 72 days, Forrest.
72 working days while the Senate was in session. Which was actually over a year. It ended in February 2010.
No. The Senate was in session for a total of 191 days that year.
The Super majority ended on February 4, 2010 when Scott Brown was elected. If you think that's wrong, then tell me when it ended.
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