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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:25 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:54 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:49 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:27 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:12 pm

If the weapons ban was so great, why did the Democrats allow it to sunset?
The Republicans blocked it.
Except during the first of the Obama Admin
The Republicans filibustered 40+ times during Obama's first year in office.

Keep trying, Forrest.
They were filibuster proof for at least 72 days under your own admission. Keep swinging, Rick
The Republicans blocked the Dems attempt to extend the ban on assault weapons.
Go look it up, Forrest.

Gawd... I don't even know why I bother talking to you. You're a fucking moronic idiot.
They were powerless to stop them. All the Dems had to do was call a cloture vote (60 votes) to bring the bill to the floor for a vote. They didn’t do that
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Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 11:32 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:25 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:54 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:49 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:27 pm

The Republicans blocked it.
Except during the first of the Obama Admin
The Republicans filibustered 40+ times during Obama's first year in office.

Keep trying, Forrest.
They were filibuster proof for at least 72 days under your own admission. Keep swinging, Rick
The Republicans blocked the Dems attempt to extend the ban on assault weapons.
Go look it up, Forrest.

Gawd... I don't even know why I bother talking to you. You're a fucking moronic idiot.
They were powerless to stop them. All the Dems had to do was call a cloture vote (60 votes) to bring the bill to the floor for a vote. They didn’t do that
Maybe there weren't enough massacres to warrant the selective attention you wish they had.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:08 pm
Animal wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 1:57 pm The argument here isn't how they wasted their use of that time, its whether the time existed in the first place. which it did.
Yes, it existed. I've already said that. (try paying attention)
The Dems didn't have a Supermajority when Obama took office. The Dems didn't have 60 seats until Franken was seated in July 2009. But even then, there were 2 Dems who were busy dying, so the Dems had 60 seats but only 58 votes. It was a Supermajority in name only.
After Kennedy died his seat was taken by Kirk so the Dems had 60 seats but only 59 votes. Again, a Supermajority in name only.
Robert Byrd died. (Dem)
The "Supermajority" was lost when Brown was seated in Jan.2010.

The Dems had a Supermajority for 72 Senate working days out of 191 days the Senate was in session. Not a year and a half. Not 2 years. 72 days.

Here's the timeline:

In January 2009, there were 56 Senate Democrats and two independents who caucused with Democrats. This combined total of 58 included Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), whose health was failing and was unable to serve. As a practical matter, in the early months of Obama's presidency, the Senate Democratic caucus had 57 members on the floor for day-to-day legislating.

In April 2009, Pennsylvania's Arlen Specter switched parties. This meant there were 57 Democrats, and two independents who caucused with Democrats, for a caucus of 59. But with Kennedy ailing, there were still "only" 58 Democratic caucus members in the chamber.

In May 2009, Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) was hospitalized, bringing the number of Senate Dems in the chamber down to 57.

In July 2009, Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) was finally seated after a lengthy recount/legal fight. At that point, the Democratic caucus reached 60, but two of its members, Kennedy and Byrd, were unavailable for votes.

In August 2009, Kennedy died, and Democratic caucus again stood at 59.

In September 2009, Sen. Paul Kirk (D-Mass.) filled Kennedy's vacancy, bringing the caucus back to 60, though Byrd's health continued to deteriorate.

In January 2010, Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) replaced Kirk, bringing the Democratic caucus back to 59 again.

In June 2010, Byrd died, and the Democratic caucus fell to 58, where it stood until the midterms.
fair enough. and that's a pretty accurate timeline.
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saltydog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 11:33 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 11:32 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:25 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 10:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:54 pm
Biker wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:49 pm

Except during the first of the Obama Admin
The Republicans filibustered 40+ times during Obama's first year in office.

Keep trying, Forrest.
They were filibuster proof for at least 72 days under your own admission. Keep swinging, Rick
The Republicans blocked the Dems attempt to extend the ban on assault weapons.
Go look it up, Forrest.

Gawd... I don't even know why I bother talking to you. You're a fucking moronic idiot.
They were powerless to stop them. All the Dems had to do was call a cloture vote (60 votes) to bring the bill to the floor for a vote. They didn’t do that
Maybe there weren't enough massacres to warrant the selective attention you wish they had.
There were, but again it was mostly on the darkies side of town and the Dems like Sen Byrd didn’t care all that much
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Just a reminder that Biker's a fan of dead humans.
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saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:54 pm Just a reminder that Biker's a fan of dead humans.
That’s just stupid, even for you
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Biker wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:56 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:54 pm Just a reminder that Biker's a fan of dead humans.
That’s just stupid, even for you
Where's your gun control ideas troll?
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saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:20 pm
Biker wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:56 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:54 pm Just a reminder that Biker's a fan of dead humans.
That’s just stupid, even for you
Where's your gun control ideas troll?
How about we make it illegal to kill anyone? What? We already have that law and it doesn't work? Obviously another law will work then.
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Animal wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:26 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:20 pm
Biker wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:56 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:54 pm Just a reminder that Biker's a fan of dead humans.
That’s just stupid, even for you
Where's your gun control ideas troll?
How about we make it illegal to kill anyone? What? We already have that law and it doesn't work? Obviously another law will work then.
Must be nice to be the smartest man in a 2 mile radius.
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saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:20 pm
Biker wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:56 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:54 pm Just a reminder that Biker's a fan of dead humans.
That’s just stupid, even for you
Where's your gun control ideas troll?
Stop being a pussy and tell us what law you want to see enacted? It’s ok, we already know so just say it
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Biker wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:35 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:20 pm
Biker wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:56 pm
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 7:54 pm Just a reminder that Biker's a fan of dead humans.
That’s just stupid, even for you
Where's your gun control ideas troll?
Stop being a pussy and tell us what law you want to see enacted? It’s ok, we already know so just say it
You don't have a solution because you root for cleansing.
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saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:43 pm You don't have a solution because you root for cleansing.
look, you stupid fuck. the only solution you have posted was already done within months of the mass shooting less than 20 miles away in the thread you posted it as a solution. So, anyone with that level of retarded ideas isn't allowed to comment. so take a big drink of shut the fuck up.
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Salty's solution is to confiscate everyones guns. He's just too scared to type it.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:49 pm Salty's solution is to confiscate everyones guns. He's just too scared to type it.
Not plausible. Swing and a miss Sgt. Presumptuous.
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saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:57 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:49 pm Salty's solution is to confiscate everyones guns. He's just too scared to type it.
Not plausible. Swing and a miss Sgt. Presumptuous.
OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 am
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:57 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:49 pm Salty's solution is to confiscate everyones guns. He's just too scared to type it.
Not plausible. Swing and a miss Sgt. Presumptuous.
OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
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Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:16 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 am
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:57 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:49 pm Salty's solution is to confiscate everyones guns. He's just too scared to type it.
Not plausible. Swing and a miss Sgt. Presumptuous.
OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
Bingo. Every solution he comes up with has already been implemented in most places already
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Biker wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:16 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 am
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:57 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:49 pm Salty's solution is to confiscate everyones guns. He's just too scared to type it.
Not plausible. Swing and a miss Sgt. Presumptuous.
OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
Bingo. Every solution he comes up with has already been implemented in most places already
Thoughts and prayers sure seem to work fine, right?
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saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:49 pm
Biker wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:16 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 am
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:57 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:49 pm Salty's solution is to confiscate everyones guns. He's just too scared to type it.
Not plausible. Swing and a miss Sgt. Presumptuous.
OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
Bingo. Every solution he comes up with has already been implemented in most places already
Thoughts and prayers sure seem to work fine, right?
what's your solution?
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Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:50 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:49 pm
Biker wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:16 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 am
saltydog wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:57 pm

Not plausible. Swing and a miss Sgt. Presumptuous.
OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
Bingo. Every solution he comes up with has already been implemented in most places already
Thoughts and prayers sure seem to work fine, right?
what's your solution?
I'm sure any potential solution will be inadequate or refuted by you and your pro-massacre pals.

Thoughts and prayers are enough.
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saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:54 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:50 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:49 pm
Biker wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:16 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 am

OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
Bingo. Every solution he comes up with has already been implemented in most places already
Thoughts and prayers sure seem to work fine, right?
what's your solution?
I'm sure any potential solution will be inadequate or refuted by you and your pro-massacre pals.

Thoughts and prayers are enough.
and.....once again. you have nothing. the only thing you provide is blame.
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Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:56 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:54 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:50 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:49 pm
Biker wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:16 pm

he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
Bingo. Every solution he comes up with has already been implemented in most places already
Thoughts and prayers sure seem to work fine, right?
what's your solution?
I'm sure any potential solution will be inadequate or refuted by you and your pro-massacre pals.

Thoughts and prayers are enough.
and.....once again. you have nothing. the only thing you provide is blame.
A fan of massacres, I am not.
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saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 5:25 pm A fan of massacres, I am not.
then i would suggest you stop bitching and try to come up with a solution.
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Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 5:26 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 5:25 pm A fan of massacres, I am not.
then i would suggest you stop bitching and try to come up with a solution.
I thought bitching was a requirement to post here. I should reread the orientation handbook.
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saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:54 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:50 pm
saltydog wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:49 pm
Biker wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:16 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:52 am

OK, so give us the Salty Solution (TM)
he's only ever posted one solution and it was to implement "gun buy back" programs around the country. Its too bad the dumb fuck isn't aware that is already done in almost every city around. It's about as effective as handing out free sandwiches to the homeless and expecting it to change anything.

the truth is that the NRA probably applauds gun buy backs (they probably promote them) so they have new customers.
Bingo. Every solution he comes up with has already been implemented in most places already
Thoughts and prayers sure seem to work fine, right?
what's your solution?
I'm sure any potential solution will be inadequate or refuted by you and your pro-massacre pals.

Thoughts and prayers are enough.
They're about as effective as the solutions you've suggested. Oh, wait...
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