Not a bad idea
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Re: Not a bad idea
Anything to keep the young 'uns from being involved.
Racism, sexism, now ageism! Yay for old, white supremacists!
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Racism, sexism, now ageism! Yay for old, white supremacists!
Wait, you don't qualify yet you identify the most with them?
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Re: Not a bad idea
I could get behind that.
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Re: Not a bad idea
Enlistment age thoughts?
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I like this idea.
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WHAT. SHOULD. BE. THE. AGE. FOR. MILITARY. ENLISTMENT?
Or are you going to continue to be a bitch that won't answer a question?
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Re: Not a bad idea
I suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 12:47 amWHAT. SHOULD. BE. THE. AGE. FOR. MILITARY. ENLISTMENT?
Or are you going to continue to be a bitch that won't answer a question?
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Old enough for armed conflict, yet can't cast a vote. Sounds unreasonable.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 12:47 amWHAT. SHOULD. BE. THE. AGE. FOR. MILITARY. ENLISTMENT?
Or are you going to continue to be a bitch that won't answer a question?
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As I said, they would know that going in. A personal choice: not ok with it? Dont join.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:11 amOld enough for armed conflict, yet can't cast a vote. Sounds unreasonable.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.
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You mean... like voting?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 12:47 amWHAT. SHOULD. BE. THE. AGE. FOR. MILITARY. ENLISTMENT?
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Well, if the legal age were 25 there wouldnt be a choice; they would be ineligible. The military option would be just that: an option. Join if you want and dont join if you dont like the rules.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:22 amYou mean... like voting?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.
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So raise the military age to 25 as well.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:36 amWell, if the legal age were 25 there wouldnt be a choice; they would be ineligible. The military option would be just that: an option. Join if you want and dont join if you dont like the rules.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:22 amYou mean... like voting?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.
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I wouldnt have a problem with that either. I know times change but I look at most 18 and 19 year olds today and I think "holy shit. This is the age group that won WWII?"Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:40 amSo raise the military age to 25 as well.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:36 amWell, if the legal age were 25 there wouldnt be a choice; they would be ineligible. The military option would be just that: an option. Join if you want and dont join if you dont like the rules.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:22 amYou mean... like voting?
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So, young minds cannot have the intellect to cast a vote, yet willingly enlisting is reasonable. Got it.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:18 amAs I said, they would know that going in. A personal choice: not ok with it? Dont join.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:11 amOld enough for armed conflict, yet can't cast a vote. Sounds unreasonable.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.
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As I stated above: if you want to make the enlistment age 25 I'd be ok with that too. Thats a tricky one though. You probably dont understand this but coming from where I came from you have to understand that for many people of all races and ethnicities, the military is sometimes their best option. Poor and less educated people especially. The military provides a rewarding career path that in many other ways is simply impossible. I'd hate to take that opportunity away from them.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 3:33 amSo, young minds cannot have the intellect to cast a vote, yet willingly enlisting is reasonable. Got it.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:18 amAs I said, they would know that going in. A personal choice: not ok with it? Dont join.
Perhaps enlist at 18 but combat is not an option unless you opt in for it? I'm willing to find a solution that works for everyone.
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Old enough for a choppadicketomy but not old enough for a cigarette or tattoo. See how this works?saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:11 amOld enough for armed conflict, yet can't cast a vote. Sounds unreasonable.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.
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Driving age?Biker wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 12:56 pmOld enough for a choppadicketomy but not old enough for a cigarette or tattoo. See how this works?saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 2:11 amOld enough for armed conflict, yet can't cast a vote. Sounds unreasonable.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 amI suppose if they still want to join at 18 they should be able. It would be a personal choice.
Drinking age?
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Re: Not a bad idea
Old enough to die for your country (when we go to war, declared or not) but not old enough to vote?
Also note that there's a documented increased risk of dying when you're in the military, regardless of whether you're actively being shot at.
Yeah, unless you change the mandatory draft registration age to the voting age, I'm not buying this.
And good luck selling this to the military.
P.S. There's no minimum age to purchase guns in a lot of States btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_ ... e#Overview (yeah I'm aware Federal Law doesn't allow selling to people below 18)
P.P.S. Smells like more GOP efforts to try to increase their chances in elections by not letting votes by "those people." Of course, they'd never try that. /s Signed the Geriatric Old (White) People's party.
Also note that there's a documented increased risk of dying when you're in the military, regardless of whether you're actively being shot at.
Yeah, unless you change the mandatory draft registration age to the voting age, I'm not buying this.
And good luck selling this to the military.
P.S. There's no minimum age to purchase guns in a lot of States btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_ ... e#Overview (yeah I'm aware Federal Law doesn't allow selling to people below 18)
P.P.S. Smells like more GOP efforts to try to increase their chances in elections by not letting votes by "those people." Of course, they'd never try that. /s Signed the Geriatric Old (White) People's party.
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Someone found the motive here. The GOP is deathly afraid of the youth vote. It probably doesn't help them that they haven't won a popular vote in nearly 2 decades.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:10 pm Old enough to die for your country (when we go to war, declared or not) but not old enough to vote?
Also note that there's a documented increased risk of dying when you're in the military, regardless of whether you're actively being shot at.
Yeah, unless you change the mandatory draft registration age to the voting age, I'm not buying this.
And good luck selling this to the military.
P.S. There's no minimum age to purchase guns in a lot of States btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_ ... e#Overview (yeah I'm aware Federal Law doesn't allow selling to people below 18)
P.P.S. Smells like more GOP efforts to try to increase their chances in elections by not letting votes by "those people." Of course, they'd never try that. /s Signed the Geriatric Old (White) People's party.
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we all know what your motive is for protecting the youth vote.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:48 pmSomeone found the motive here. The GOP is deathly afraid of the youth vote. It probably doesn't help them that they haven't won a popular vote in nearly 2 decades.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:10 pm Old enough to die for your country (when we go to war, declared or not) but not old enough to vote?
Also note that there's a documented increased risk of dying when you're in the military, regardless of whether you're actively being shot at.
Yeah, unless you change the mandatory draft registration age to the voting age, I'm not buying this.
And good luck selling this to the military.
P.S. There's no minimum age to purchase guns in a lot of States btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_ ... e#Overview (yeah I'm aware Federal Law doesn't allow selling to people below 18)
P.P.S. Smells like more GOP efforts to try to increase their chances in elections by not letting votes by "those people." Of course, they'd never try that. /s Signed the Geriatric Old (White) People's party.
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Oh? This should be good .Animal wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:55 pmwe all know what your motive is for protecting the youth vote.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:48 pmSomeone found the motive here. The GOP is deathly afraid of the youth vote. It probably doesn't help them that they haven't won a popular vote in nearly 2 decades.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:10 pm Old enough to die for your country (when we go to war, declared or not) but not old enough to vote?
Also note that there's a documented increased risk of dying when you're in the military, regardless of whether you're actively being shot at.
Yeah, unless you change the mandatory draft registration age to the voting age, I'm not buying this.
And good luck selling this to the military.
P.S. There's no minimum age to purchase guns in a lot of States btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_ ... e#Overview (yeah I'm aware Federal Law doesn't allow selling to people below 18)
P.P.S. Smells like more GOP efforts to try to increase their chances in elections by not letting votes by "those people." Of course, they'd never try that. /s Signed the Geriatric Old (White) People's party.
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hang on to your hat.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 5:23 pmOh? This should be good .Animal wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:55 pmwe all know what your motive is for protecting the youth vote.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:48 pmSomeone found the motive here. The GOP is deathly afraid of the youth vote. It probably doesn't help them that they haven't won a popular vote in nearly 2 decades.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:10 pm Old enough to die for your country (when we go to war, declared or not) but not old enough to vote?
Also note that there's a documented increased risk of dying when you're in the military, regardless of whether you're actively being shot at.
Yeah, unless you change the mandatory draft registration age to the voting age, I'm not buying this.
And good luck selling this to the military.
P.S. There's no minimum age to purchase guns in a lot of States btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_ ... e#Overview (yeah I'm aware Federal Law doesn't allow selling to people below 18)
P.P.S. Smells like more GOP efforts to try to increase their chances in elections by not letting votes by "those people." Of course, they'd never try that. /s Signed the Geriatric Old (White) People's party.
They mostly vote democrat. That's why its funny that even if someone mentions raising the age it triggers you.
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Re: Not a bad idea
While they're at it they should raise the age to buy a gun to 25.saltydog wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:48 pmSomeone found the motive here. The GOP is deathly afraid of the youth vote. It probably doesn't help them that they haven't won a popular vote in nearly 2 decades.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:10 pm Old enough to die for your country (when we go to war, declared or not) but not old enough to vote?
Also note that there's a documented increased risk of dying when you're in the military, regardless of whether you're actively being shot at.
Yeah, unless you change the mandatory draft registration age to the voting age, I'm not buying this.
And good luck selling this to the military.
P.S. There's no minimum age to purchase guns in a lot of States btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_ ... e#Overview (yeah I'm aware Federal Law doesn't allow selling to people below 18)
P.P.S. Smells like more GOP efforts to try to increase their chances in elections by not letting votes by "those people." Of course, they'd never try that. /s Signed the Geriatric Old (White) People's party.