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Handy dandy in that it doesn't have what it claims to have.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:40 pm FRAUD DOESNT REALLY HAPPEN ON ANY MEANINGFUL LEVEL!!!!!!1111!!!1
Here is a handy dandy voter and election fraud interactive site that RD found showing all of the cases and convictions
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
But sorry to bust up the dupe circlejerk. Carry on.May 14, 2021 wrote: I make this point with some regularity because the Heritage Foundation’s database of fraud cases is often cited as evidence of the rampant scale of fraud. You can find it online; it claims to have demonstrated 1,322 “proven instances of voter fraud.” But when you look at what’s presented, you see all of the caveats that aren’t mentioned. Like that the database goes back to the mid-1980s. Or that it includes a number of cases of fraudulent voter registration by third parties, which is not generally included in assessments of “voter fraud.”
In fact, as I’ve pointed out before, the database includes only one example of a fraudulently cast ballot from the 2020 general election. That’s not the only such case, mind you. Local news reports indicated 16 such incidents when I looked for examples earlier this month. If that were every demonstrated case and each of those votes was counted (which they weren’t), that would amount to one instance of voter fraud for every 10 million votes tallied in 2020. Being struck by lightning is four times as common.
In other words, Anderson is going on cable television and driving an effort to pass new voting restrictions by asserting that fraud is a real threat demanding of legislative response — when even the tally compiled by her parent organization makes obvious that it isn’t.
Fucking imbecile. Nowhere did I or anyone else say "Hey look at this list of fraud in 2020!"dot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:05 pmHandy dandy in that it doesn't have what it claims to have.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:40 pm FRAUD DOESNT REALLY HAPPEN ON ANY MEANINGFUL LEVEL!!!!!!1111!!!1
Here is a handy dandy voter and election fraud interactive site that RD found showing all of the cases and convictions
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraudBut sorry to bust up the dupe circlejerk. Carry on.May 14, 2021 wrote: I make this point with some regularity because the Heritage Foundation’s database of fraud cases is often cited as evidence of the rampant scale of fraud. You can find it online; it claims to have demonstrated 1,322 “proven instances of voter fraud.” But when you look at what’s presented, you see all of the caveats that aren’t mentioned. Like that the database goes back to the mid-1980s. Or that it includes a number of cases of fraudulent voter registration by third parties, which is not generally included in assessments of “voter fraud.”
In fact, as I’ve pointed out before, the database includes only one example of a fraudulently cast ballot from the 2020 general election. That’s not the only such case, mind you. Local news reports indicated 16 such incidents when I looked for examples earlier this month. If that were every demonstrated case and each of those votes was counted (which they weren’t), that would amount to one instance of voter fraud for every 10 million votes tallied in 2020. Being struck by lightning is four times as common.
In other words, Anderson is going on cable television and driving an effort to pass new voting restrictions by asserting that fraud is a real threat demanding of legislative response — when even the tally compiled by her parent organization makes obvious that it isn’t.
Dude, you really need to dial back whatever you're on. Can't be good for your health. I just pointed out that it doesn't have what you think it has or what it wants everyone to believe it has. It's about projecting their own image and the catch behind it in the fine print. Heritage does not boast that their voter fraud database encompasses 40+ years of activity, it boasts number of found instances. It's subtle, which I guess is why you don't pick up on it since you already have your predetermined conclusion. But since you want to get into the details, go ahead and count how much election fraud it has pertaining to 2020 and square that up with the circlejerk claims. Unless, narrative vs facts etc.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:49 pm Fucking imbecile. Nowhere did I or anyone else say "Hey look at this list of fraud in 2020!"
Um, what exactly do you think that link proves?
Oh noes, it goes back to the mid-80's!! THATS THE FUCKING POINT! You know the database is simply meant as a compilation. Its not meant to be about 2020 like this hack is trying to imply.
So, take that bullshit somewhere else homeschool.
The data base is about fraud in general and nowhere does it ever claim to be about 2020. Now that you know exactly what the site is talking about what have you got to say now? Oh wait, you probably think thats fake too!
Youre so fucking thirsty its hilarious!
Look, here's the thing. This is all really simple.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:49 pm Fucking imbecile. Nowhere did I or anyone else say "Hey look at this list of fraud in 2020!"
Um, what exactly do you think that link proves? All it proves is they dont understand the study or theyre trying to misrepresent it.
Oh noes, it goes back to the mid-80's!! THATS THE FUCKING POINT! You know the database is simply meant as a compilation. Its not meant to be about 2020 like this hack is trying to imply.
So, take that bullshit somewhere else homeschool.
The data base is about fraud in general and nowhere does it ever claim to be about 2020. Now that you know exactly what the site is talking about what have you got to say now? Oh wait, you probably think thats fake too!
Youre so fucking thirsty its hilarious!
Dude, as you mentioned in the other thread: just take the Ldot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:02 pmDude, you really need to dial back whatever you're on. Can't be good for your health. I just pointed out that it doesn't have what you think it has or what it wants everyone to believe it has. It's about projecting their own image and the catch behind it in the fine print. Heritage does not boast that their voter fraud database encompasses 40+ years of activity, it boasts number of found instances. It's subtle, which I guess is why you don't pick up on it since you already have your predetermined conclusion. But since you want to get into the details, go ahead and count how much election fraud it has pertaining to 2020 and square that up with the circlejerk claims. Unless, narrative vs facts etc.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:49 pm Fucking imbecile. Nowhere did I or anyone else say "Hey look at this list of fraud in 2020!"
Um, what exactly do you think that link proves?
Oh noes, it goes back to the mid-80's!! THATS THE FUCKING POINT! You know the database is simply meant as a compilation. Its not meant to be about 2020 like this hack is trying to imply.
So, take that bullshit somewhere else homeschool.
The data base is about fraud in general and nowhere does it ever claim to be about 2020. Now that you know exactly what the site is talking about what have you got to say now? Oh wait, you probably think thats fake too!
Youre so fucking thirsty its hilarious!
) article tried to misrepresent the site and its intentions.Except the Heritage Foundation is not this pristine clean cut above criticism organization. And it's exactly for reasons like this, as well as its drive to suppress legal voting across the country, but that's the kind of thing you don't consider. And it probably doesn't matter where the criticism comes from, be it the Washington Post, Mother Jones, Brennan Center, it doesn't matter because Heritage is selling what you believe in. What you need to believe in.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:06 pm Dude, as you mentioned in the other thread: just take the L
Its a database about fraud. Its really that simple. Its not meant to be about anything else. It should concern you that your hack Mother Jones (!
You’re discounting news from today with something written over two years ago?dot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:05 pmHandy dandy in that it doesn't have what it claims to have.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:40 pm FRAUD DOESNT REALLY HAPPEN ON ANY MEANINGFUL LEVEL!!!!!!1111!!!1
Here is a handy dandy voter and election fraud interactive site that RD found showing all of the cases and convictions
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraudBut sorry to bust up the dupe circlejerk. Carry on.May 14, 2021 wrote: I make this point with some regularity because the Heritage Foundation’s database of fraud cases is often cited as evidence of the rampant scale of fraud. You can find it online; it claims to have demonstrated 1,322 “proven instances of voter fraud.” But when you look at what’s presented, you see all of the caveats that aren’t mentioned. Like that the database goes back to the mid-1980s. Or that it includes a number of cases of fraudulent voter registration by third parties, which is not generally included in assessments of “voter fraud.”
In fact, as I’ve pointed out before, the database includes only one example of a fraudulently cast ballot from the 2020 general election. That’s not the only such case, mind you. Local news reports indicated 16 such incidents when I looked for examples earlier this month. If that were every demonstrated case and each of those votes was counted (which they weren’t), that would amount to one instance of voter fraud for every 10 million votes tallied in 2020. Being struck by lightning is four times as common.
In other words, Anderson is going on cable television and driving an effort to pass new voting restrictions by asserting that fraud is a real threat demanding of legislative response — when even the tally compiled by her parent organization makes obvious that it isn’t.
Dude, seriously, just take the Ldot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:17 pmExcept the Heritage Foundation is not this pristine clean cut above criticism organization. And it's exactly for reasons like this, as well as its drive to suppress legal voting across the country, but that's the kind of thing you don't consider. And it probably doesn't matter where the criticism comes from, be it the Washington Post, Mother Jones, Brennan Center, it doesn't matter because Heritage is selling what you believe in. What you need to believe in.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:06 pm Dude, as you mentioned in the other thread: just take the L
Its a database about fraud. Its really that simple. Its not meant to be about anything else. It should concern you that your hack Mother Jones (!
I also like how you're just breezing past the part that's key, fraud in 2020. Don't think it wasn't noticed.
Because you're posting in a thread about 2020, not fraud in general, and yeah yeah'ing like the 2020 election was stolen. Do you even read what you post replies to?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:16 pm Dude, seriously, just take the L
They are literally gathering real court cases and real verdicts. Why is 2020 key? Who cares? You and your hack article are the only ones focusing on it. The entire thread is simply about fraud in general; the same with the database.
There is so much disingenuous excuse content contained here. No, the voter fraud debate was not started because Republicans were griping about mail in ballots and keeping old names on voter rolls. If that was the case, active voters would not have been purged from the rolls in, coincidentally, Democrat leaning areas. It has admittedly been a constant phantom GOP complaint, accompanied with little proof. But then guess who ramped it up because he lost? They were on a quest to throw out legal votes, so just because Trump's conspiracy failed does not mean it is disregarded. If you're going to claim voter fraud has ever been as big of a talking point, fake as it is, before now, I welcome you to point out when it was such constant subject in the news cycles before now. Since then, the specter of his false voter fraud claims have been the driving purpose behind organizations like Heritage to revamp voting laws to restrict legal voting. That is the point of this "voter fraud."Animal wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:21 pm Dot has lost the point of voter fraud.
He is so focued on Trump that he thinks the voter fraud debate is about the 2020 election. The voter fraud debate was started because the republicans were griping about mail in ballots and keeping old names on voter rolls, etc. So they were on a quest to revamp voting rules in various states to make sure that any voter fraud could not happen moving forward. Then, suddenly the democrats take up this defense of "but there is no voter fraud". As if that was enough to negate the need to shore up the system and make it more failsafe.
Dot, you got duped because your hack article claimed the database was about 2020 which it isnt and never was. Just take the Ldot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:20 pmBecause you're posting in a thread about 2020, not fraud in general, and yeah yeah'ing like the 2020 election was stolen. Do you even read what you post replies to?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:16 pm Dude, seriously, just take the L
They are literally gathering real court cases and real verdicts. Why is 2020 key? Who cares? You and your hack article are the only ones focusing on it. The entire thread is simply about fraud in general; the same with the database.
Again, your perception about what I think is wildly off the mark. Just because you're simple-minded and don't take in things outside your narrow view doesn't mean I do. I simply tailored my reply here based on the subject matter which you echoed, which you may be surprised focused on... 2020. It must baffle you that I may have heard of Heritage because of hacks like you and learned of their machinations before now.
By "machinations" you mean assembling actual court cases and verdicts?dot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:13 pmAgain, your perception about what I think is wildly off the mark. Just because you're simple-minded and don't take in things outside your narrow view doesn't mean I do. I simply tailored my reply here based on the subject matter which you echoed, which you may be surprised focused on... 2020. It must baffle you that I may have heard of Heritage because of hacks like you and learned of their machinations before now.
If it helps your simple mindset to ignore that there is more to Heritage than just a simple website database, then thanks for admitting I'm right without knowing it.
Fuckin A.