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Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:08 am
by CentralTexasCrude
So I got home from a week's work late Friday. Was at Discount Tire early Saturday getting a tire (They had custody of my car key). Ran a couple of errands and last stopped at HEB (Texas chain grocery store). When I came out to the parking lot, my car key was dead- wouldn't unlock my doors. There is actually a secret place next to the driver door handle where you can use your ignition key to unlock the door. Needed a screw driver but couldn't find one. Tried the car key again and it worked. No problem- have never replaced the battery in the fob. Do it Sunday (Keep one of the back doors unlocked). In the meantime, the key works perfect Sunday and Monday. Stop by HEB today, park almost the same spot. Come out and the key is dead again. Look around for some weird new surveillance camera or something. Get in the unlocked back door. Key has worked perfect ever since. I haven't installed the battery yet and of course I carried my key inside HEB. Anyone have a clue?

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am
by Animal
i have had the same problem at a few parking lots. chilis and dairy queen. they must have some kind of wifi that disarms the key fob from unlocking the doors. i have to use the keypad on the driver door to get in. every time. its happened at those 2 locations probably 20 times over the past few years.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:36 am
by CentralTexasCrude
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am i have had the same problem at a few parking lots. chilis and dairy queen. they must have some kind of wifi that disarms the key fob from unlocking the doors. i have to use the keypad on the driver door to get in. every time. its happened at those 2 locations probably 20 times over the past few years.
It's really weird. I'm thinking it's not anything in the parking lot but when I carry my keys inside HEB, some new surveillance technology (or something) there causes my fob to go dead for awhile. I'll see if anyone else has experienced the same thing.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:45 am
by saltydog
Texas grid problems/interference?

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 am
by Animal
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:36 am
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am i have had the same problem at a few parking lots. chilis and dairy queen. they must have some kind of wifi that disarms the key fob from unlocking the doors. i have to use the keypad on the driver door to get in. every time. its happened at those 2 locations probably 20 times over the past few years.
It's really weird. I'm thinking it's not anything in the parking lot but when I carry my keys inside HEB, some new surveillance technology (or something) there causes my fob to go dead for awhile. I'll see if anyone else has experienced the same thing.
it could be. try stopping by HEB, get out and lock it and walk away and go back and see if it does it. I have never tried that at Chilis or Dairy Queen. I can in a few days though.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:42 am
by CentralTexasCrude
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 am
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:36 am
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am i have had the same problem at a few parking lots. chilis and dairy queen. they must have some kind of wifi that disarms the key fob from unlocking the doors. i have to use the keypad on the driver door to get in. every time. its happened at those 2 locations probably 20 times over the past few years.
It's really weird. I'm thinking it's not anything in the parking lot but when I carry my keys inside HEB, some new surveillance technology (or something) there causes my fob to go dead for awhile. I'll see if anyone else has experienced the same thing.
it could be. try stopping by HEB, get out and lock it and walk away and go back and see if it does it. I have never tried that at Chilis or Dairy Queen. I can in a few days though.
You mean lock it but don't go inside. Just make sure the interference isn't outside. Be next weekend before I'm back to check it out. I'm guessing it's some hot shot SaltyD Incel type tech wizard who doesn't understand how things work in the real world. Sound familiar?

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:34 pm
by Animal
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:42 am
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 am
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:36 am
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am i have had the same problem at a few parking lots. chilis and dairy queen. they must have some kind of wifi that disarms the key fob from unlocking the doors. i have to use the keypad on the driver door to get in. every time. its happened at those 2 locations probably 20 times over the past few years.
It's really weird. I'm thinking it's not anything in the parking lot but when I carry my keys inside HEB, some new surveillance technology (or something) there causes my fob to go dead for awhile. I'll see if anyone else has experienced the same thing.
it could be. try stopping by HEB, get out and lock it and walk away and go back and see if it does it. I have never tried that at Chilis or Dairy Queen. I can in a few days though.
You mean lock it but don't go inside. Just make sure the interference isn't outside. Be next weekend before I'm back to check it out. I'm guessing it's some hot shot SaltyD Incel type tech wizard who doesn't understand how things work in the real world. Sound familiar?
yeah, you have me kind of curious now. Maybe it is inside the building that the fob gets scrambled or disabled. I just assumed it was something outside that was interfering with the signal frequency from the key fob.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:00 pm
by rule34
It's a new system that disables the key fob when you park in the handicap spot without the proper documentation.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:05 pm
by saltydog
Sorry for your mild inconvenience.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:27 pm
by rule34
By the way, did this happen in Marfa?

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:35 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
rule34 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:00 pm It's a new system that disables the key fob when you park in the handicap spot without the proper documentation.
Yeah, not it

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:37 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:34 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:42 am
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:21 am
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:36 am
Animal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am i have had the same problem at a few parking lots. chilis and dairy queen. they must have some kind of wifi that disarms the key fob from unlocking the doors. i have to use the keypad on the driver door to get in. every time. its happened at those 2 locations probably 20 times over the past few years.
It's really weird. I'm thinking it's not anything in the parking lot but when I carry my keys inside HEB, some new surveillance technology (or something) there causes my fob to go dead for awhile. I'll see if anyone else has experienced the same thing.
it could be. try stopping by HEB, get out and lock it and walk away and go back and see if it does it. I have never tried that at Chilis or Dairy Queen. I can in a few days though.
You mean lock it but don't go inside. Just make sure the interference isn't outside. Be next weekend before I'm back to check it out. I'm guessing it's some hot shot SaltyD Incel type tech wizard who doesn't understand how things work in the real world. Sound familiar?
yeah, you have me kind of curious now. Maybe it is inside the building that the fob gets scrambled or disabled. I just assumed it was something outside that was interfering with the signal frequency from the key fob.
Pretty sure that's the case. There is nothing in the parking lot except lights. Has to be inside. I'll test it this weekend when I get home.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:43 pm
by Cyberhonky
My fob sets off the door sentrys at my local supermarket 😁

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:46 pm
by Biker
saltydog wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:45 am Texas grid problems/interference?
Oh, is our grid failing again? Glad a guy in New England let us Texans know

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:49 pm
by saltydog
Biker wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:46 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:45 am Texas grid problems/interference?
Oh, is our grid failing again? Glad a guy in New England let us Texans know
I'm just offering thoughts on a topic that I could barely understand and comprehend (HEB?).

Isn't that what all the cool kids do around here?

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:08 pm
by Antknot
saltydog wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:49 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:46 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:45 am Texas grid problems/interference?
Oh, is our grid failing again? Glad a guy in New England let us Texans know
I'm just offering thoughts on a topic that I could barely understand and comprehend (HEB?).

Isn't that what all the cool kids do around here?
You didn’t understand that H-E-B is a chain of grocery stores? Even after the original poster specified it in the original post?

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:56 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
My car key worked perfect all day. Still leaving the one back door unlocked until I solve this. I also have the touch screen on the outside driver door. As I posted 2 years ago, no idea what the code is anymore (long story). And I'm not paying the local Ford dealer $100 to tell me what that code is. Things like that have usually been free as a courtesy to Ford owners. Another example of everything going to shit for the almighty $$. Nickle and dime everything to death.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:59 pm
by rule34
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:56 pm My car key worked perfect all day. Still leaving the one back door unlocked until I solve this. I also have the touch screen on the outside driver door. As I posted 2 years ago, no idea what the code is anymore (long story). And I'm not paying the local Ford dealer $100 to tell me what that code is. Things like that have usually been free as a courtesy to Ford owners. Another example of everything going to shit for the almighty $$. Nickle and dime everything to death.
My you do bitch a lot.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:13 am
by CentralTexasCrude
rule34 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:59 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:56 pm My car key worked perfect all day. Still leaving the one back door unlocked until I solve this. I also have the touch screen on the outside driver door. As I posted 2 years ago, no idea what the code is anymore (long story). And I'm not paying the local Ford dealer $100 to tell me what that code is. Things like that have usually been free as a courtesy to Ford owners. Another example of everything going to shit for the almighty $$. Nickle and dime everything to death.
My you do bitch a lot.
Not as much as I would if I lived in Kansas. Admit that explains much about you.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:26 am
by rule34
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:13 am
rule34 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:59 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:56 pm My car key worked perfect all day. Still leaving the one back door unlocked until I solve this. I also have the touch screen on the outside driver door. As I posted 2 years ago, no idea what the code is anymore (long story). And I'm not paying the local Ford dealer $100 to tell me what that code is. Things like that have usually been free as a courtesy to Ford owners. Another example of everything going to shit for the almighty $$. Nickle and dime everything to death.
My you do bitch a lot.
Not as much as I would if I lived in Kansas. Admit that explains much about you.
I'm glad you don't.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:50 am
by saltydog
Antknot wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:08 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:49 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:46 pm
saltydog wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:45 am Texas grid problems/interference?
Oh, is our grid failing again? Glad a guy in New England let us Texans know
I'm just offering thoughts on a topic that I could barely understand and comprehend (HEB?).

Isn't that what all the cool kids do around here?
You didn’t understand that H-E-B is a chain of grocery stores? Even after the original poster specified it in the original post?
I have a CTC filter that accounts for "anomalies" that can suddenly appear in his posts. I'm trying to be respectful while understanding CTC-speak. Thanks for coming to his aid though. I think Animal might need an oil change by the end of the week if you're not too busy.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:19 am
by Reservoir Dog
If your car has a built-in anti-theft device/mode, it may be malfunctioning.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:33 am
by CentralTexasCrude
rule34 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:26 am
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:13 am
rule34 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:59 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:56 pm My car key worked perfect all day. Still leaving the one back door unlocked until I solve this. I also have the touch screen on the outside driver door. As I posted 2 years ago, no idea what the code is anymore (long story). And I'm not paying the local Ford dealer $100 to tell me what that code is. Things like that have usually been free as a courtesy to Ford owners. Another example of everything going to shit for the almighty $$. Nickle and dime everything to death.
My you do bitch a lot.
Not as much as I would if I lived in Kansas. Admit that explains much about you.
I'm glad you don't.
So you want the sitting around all day watching the Jets fly over at high altitudes to yourself. Knock yourself out

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:37 am
by CentralTexasCrude
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:19 am If your car has a built-in anti-theft device/mode, it may be malfunctioning.
It does but that's not the problem. It's that one location. It's either some tech there or a buried alien ship via TommyKnockers.

Re: Figure out the strange situation

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:25 pm
by Animal
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:56 pm My car key worked perfect all day. Still leaving the one back door unlocked until I solve this. I also have the touch screen on the outside driver door. As I posted 2 years ago, no idea what the code is anymore (long story). And I'm not paying the local Ford dealer $100 to tell me what that code is. Things like that have usually been free as a courtesy to Ford owners. Another example of everything going to shit for the almighty $$. Nickle and dime everything to death.
First method: open your glove box and find the black velcro owners manual packet. open it up and there should be a business card displayed with a Secure Code. That opens the door.

Second method: for this you have to have two key fobs, if you don't skip this one. If you have two key fobs, put one in the ignition and just turn it until the battery turns on. Leave it on for a few seconds, until you hear around 3 beeps of the door. Then take it out. Put in the other one and be looking at the screen above the steering wheel, because this happens pretty quick. Put in the 2nd key fob and turn it until the battery turns on. Quickly the factory code will display on the screen.

third method: this one is pretty tough. you have to remove a couple of plastic parts on the passenger floor by the passenger door and inside there is a white sticker with the key code on it. You will have to youtube a vid of how to do that because its not easy.