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It's over.....
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:06 pm
by Biker
and. its been over for nearly a year now. A generation of Ukrainian men died needlessly, but the West and the military industrial complex needed t a test case and the cash. Keep flying those Ukrainian flags, you mindless simps '
Ukraine Is on the Cusp of Losing This War: ‘We’re Screwed
PARIS—All bets on world peace slid off the table when Louis XV opened the École Militaire.
Nearly three centuries of belligerences later, and with more than $200 billion of Western cash gambled on Ukraine beating Russia, the military academy that once trained Napoleon last week assembled 100 military, political, finance, academic, and business leaders with intimate knowledge of the war to privately game out what happens next.
Before long, amid steely glances and chattering wine glasses, you’ll hear the anguished and morally obtuse story on the four lethal conflicts taking place in Ukraine: diplomatic, military, economic, and information.
The narratives are gagged by house rules that allow politically panicked government officials and their confidential kibitzers to speak freely but without being identified or quoted on whether the $75 billion America has so far staked on a Ukraine win is a lock or a sucker’s bet—and if Taylor Swift is now the only one with sufficient power to make Ukrainian victory a global priority.
https://dnyuz.com/2023/12/12/ukraine-is ... e-screwed/
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:36 pm
by Reservoir Dog
Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war
Of the 360,000 troops that entered Ukraine, including contract and conscript personnel, Russia has lost 315,000 on the battlefield, according to the assessment. 2,200 of 3,500 tanks have been lost, according to the assessment. 4,400 of 13,600 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers have also been destroyed, a 32 percent loss rate.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics ... index.html
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:42 pm
by Biker
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:36 pm
Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war
Of the 360,000 troops that entered Ukraine, including contract and conscript personnel, Russia has lost 315,000 on the battlefield, according to the assessment. 2,200 of 3,500 tanks have been lost, according to the assessment. 4,400 of 13,600 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers have also been destroyed, a 32 percent loss rate.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics ... index.html
And of course Ricky believes that
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:48 pm
by Reservoir Dog
Biker wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:42 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:36 pm
Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war
Of the 360,000 troops that entered Ukraine, including contract and conscript personnel, Russia has lost 315,000 on the battlefield, according to the assessment. 2,200 of 3,500 tanks have been lost, according to the assessment. 4,400 of 13,600 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers have also been destroyed, a 32 percent loss rate.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/12/politics ... index.html
And of course Ricky believes that
Says the guy who quoted DNYUZ via The Daily Beast.
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
by CHEEZY17
I like the idea of depleting the Russian military.
I hate the idea of using our money to prop up the Ukrainian economy while we have needs here at home.
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 pm
by Reservoir Dog
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Universal Healthcare is on line 1...
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
by Biker
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Universal Healthcare is on line 1...
Obamacare fixed that, no? Best Health Plan Ever!!!111!11!1!!
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:08 am
by saltydog
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Universal Healthcare is on line 1...
Obamacare fixed that, no? Best Health Plan Ever!!!111!11!1!!
It's more popular than most would admit.
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:09 am
by B-Tender
saltydog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:08 am
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Universal Healthcare is on line 1...
Obamacare fixed that, no? Best Health Plan Ever!!!111!11!1!!
It's more popular than most would admit.
Here in CA, its great for lower income people. I'm paying $909/month for my coverage, so I'm not overly psyched about it.
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:18 am
by Biker
saltydog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:08 am
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Universal Healthcare is on line 1...
Obamacare fixed that, no? Best Health Plan Ever!!!111!11!1!!
It's more popular than most would admit.
I love the ACA. I made 400k from just buying the stocks in the exchange. How can a capitalist not love taxpayer cash going into the equity markets?
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:17 am
by saltydog
The spouse works in the medical field, so I can't say it's helped or hurt either way.
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:06 am
by CHEEZY17
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:18 am
saltydog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:08 am
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Universal Healthcare is on line 1...
Obamacare fixed that, no? Best Health Plan Ever!!!111!11!1!!
It's more popular than most would admit.
I love the ACA. I made 400k from just buying the stocks in the exchange. How can a capitalist not love taxpayer cash going into the equity markets?
I remember back then you talking about buying into those. From some reason I never did even though I shared your certainty of societal excess/greed/waste combined with governmental fiscal apathy lifting those boats.
Re: It's over.....
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:42 pm
by Biker
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:06 am
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:18 am
saltydog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 1:08 am
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:22 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 pm
Our needs at home should almost without fail be our #1 priority.
Universal Healthcare is on line 1...
Obamacare fixed that, no? Best Health Plan Ever!!!111!11!1!!
It's more popular than most would admit.
I love the ACA. I made 400k from just buying the stocks in the exchange. How can a capitalist not love taxpayer cash going into the equity markets?
I remember back then you talking about buying into those. From some reason I never did even though I shared your certainty of societal excess/greed/waste combined with governmental fiscal apathy lifting those boats.
Admittedly, it took me some time to figure out what was going on, as I was too ideologically driven. But once I did, I bought in heavily. Looking back, it was a great teaching moment for me in finally realizing that both parties are of the same coin and are driven by money. For a while, all I did was follow former administration officials out the door to see what company or industry they were going into and invest accordingly