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Posted: **Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:39 pm**

Or is it Just Dunce Vance.

No matter, how long before 45 dumps him?

Posted: **Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:17 pm**

Dump him? What did he do?

Posted: **Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:40 pm**

Biker wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:17 pm Dump him? What did he do?

Nicky Haley would have been the correct answer

Posted: **Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:41 pm**

If 45 wants to become 47 , Dunce is not the way to go imho

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am**

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm**

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am

do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:03 pm**

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am
do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?

Do you think that in practice, people who tend to be violent toward their partners and children are receptive to that?

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:18 pm**

Geist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:03 pm
Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am
do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?
Do you think that in practice, people who tend to be violent toward their partners and children are receptive to that?

there's no way I could know the answer to that. But what I do know is that if you give a person an easy solution they will take it most of the time. its the hard solutions that take a little work that people tend to avoid.

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:04 pm**

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:18 pm
Geist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:03 pm
Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am
do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?
Do you think that in practice, people who tend to be violent toward their partners and children are receptive to that?
there's no way I could know the answer to that. But what I do know is that if you give a person an easy solution they will take it most of the time. its the hard solutions that take a little work that people tend to avoid.

I'm not disagreeing with that. But that belief is divorced from reality. You can't tell me you don't know/knew someone who's abusive in their home life. We all have known them. That person is the limiting factor in the situation we're talking about - you can talk about the need for self-work all you like, but that type of person isn't likely to even view themselves as the problem, let alone entertain the idea of counseling.

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:09 pm**

Geist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:04 pm
Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:18 pm
Geist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:03 pm
Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am
do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?
Do you think that in practice, people who tend to be violent toward their partners and children are receptive to that?
there's no way I could know the answer to that. But what I do know is that if you give a person an easy solution they will take it most of the time. its the hard solutions that take a little work that people tend to avoid.
I'm not disagreeing with that. But that belief is divorced from reality. You can't tell me you don't know/knew someone who's abusive in their home life. We all have known them. That person is the limiting factor in the situation we're talking about - you can talk about the need for self-work all you like, but that type of person isn't likely to even view themselves as the problem, let alone entertain the idea of counseling.

so I assume you also agree that rehabilitating someone in a jail is a waste of time?

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:19 pm**

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am
do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?

You think it took the sexual revolution for people to realize they were unhappy with their marriage situation (especially abused spouses). You can at least acknowledge that it was a stupid thing to say, regardless of how you feel about divorces.

As a child of divorce, my life got exponentially better after my parents split. Listening to arguing and fighting everyday is no way for children to grow up healthy either. So sticking it out for kids is not the solution either.

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:29 pm**

Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:09 pm
Geist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:04 pm
Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:18 pm
Geist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:03 pm
Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am
do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?
Do you think that in practice, people who tend to be violent toward their partners and children are receptive to that?
there's no way I could know the answer to that. But what I do know is that if you give a person an easy solution they will take it most of the time. its the hard solutions that take a little work that people tend to avoid.
I'm not disagreeing with that. But that belief is divorced from reality. You can't tell me you don't know/knew someone who's abusive in their home life. We all have known them. That person is the limiting factor in the situation we're talking about - you can talk about the need for self-work all you like, but that type of person isn't likely to even view themselves as the problem, let alone entertain the idea of counseling.
so I assume you also agree that rehabilitating someone in a jail is a waste of time?

Largely, yes. I used to be a CO and the lifers/long-termers were the ones who were serious about the job programs, which IMO is the only habilitative aspect of prison.

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:31 pm**

Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:19 pm
Animal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:50 am
do you think that maybe his point is that parents should be more like adults and attempt to change their behavior or get some help rather than just ditching the marriage and putting their kids through that?
You think it took the sexual revolution for people to realize they were unhappy with their marriage situation (especially abused spouses). You can at least acknowledge that it was a stupid thing to say, regardless of how you feel about divorces.

As a child of divorce, my life got exponentially better after my parents split. Listening to arguing and fighting everyday is no way for children to grow up healthy either. So sticking it out for kids is not the solution either.

personally, I would never venture off into a topic with so many scenarios. I don't see what could be gained from it. that's why I would never have an opinion on abortion or any of those kind of topics. I do think it was a stupid thing to say. But I also think that carrying it to the next extreme and summarizing his statement as though he is in favor of raising children in violent homes is equally stupid.

Maybe he is in favor of raising kids in violent homes, I'd be interested in hearing him asked that question.

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:08 pm**

I'd like to see the whole clip but I dont think he is advocating staying in violent marriages. My take from that is that he is advocating putting the hard work in to make the relationship work; not quitting on a whim. More along the lines of those folks that end committed relationships because it hit a rough patch. I get that may not always be a possibility as some relationships undeniably should be dissolved but I think his larger point is that in most cases the kids are probably going to be better off if the parents can work through the rough patch and create a good home. And again. I'm not saying that 2 folks that clearly cant get along is better-its not.

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:32 pm**

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:08 pm I'd like to see the whole clip but I dont think he is advocating staying in violent marriages. My take from that is that he is advocating putting the hard work in to make the relationship work; not quitting on a whim. More along the lines of those folks that end committed relationships because it hit a rough patch. I get that may not always be a possibility as some relationships undeniably should be dissolved but I think his larger point is that in most cases the kids are probably going to be better off if the parents can work through the rough patch and create a good home. And again. I'm not saying that 2 folks that clearly cant get along is better-its not.

whatever he's trying to say, i think he needs to learn that these aren't really the kind of topics that we elect people to be worried about.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:30 pm**

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:44 pm**

Four Seasons Landscaping 2.0

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:51 am**

After seeing his debate the dude is slick.

I thought it was nice of him to complain about the moderators correcting one of his lies.
It’s making for some interesting memes.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:18 pm**

JD kicked the ass of that clown Walz!

#MAGA2024

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:29 pm**

Biker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:18 pm JD kicked the ass of that clown Walz!

#MAGA2024

I’m guessing we watched a different debate

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:38 pm**

Who wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:29 pm
Biker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:18 pm JD kicked the ass of that clown Walz!

#MAGA2024
I’m guessing we watched a different debate

Nah, youre just not bright enough to understand what happened

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:01 pm**

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:18 pm**

If you think the world is laughing at us with a senile shit show as POTUS think about their perception of us with Knee Pads as POTUS and that doofus as VP. Seriously, you want those two retards making decisions when China invades Taiwan?
Good Lord.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:36 pm**

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:18 pm If you think the world is laughing at us with a senile shit show as POTUS think about their perception of us with Knee Pads as POTUS and that doofus as VP. Seriously, you want those two retards making decisions when China invades Taiwan?
Good Lord.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:47 pm**

i have seen several thngs today said that vance "won" the debate. Even CNN has a poll on their main page that said that Vance did better among undecided voters.

I think those constipated looks that Walz was giving the camera were what hurt him.

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