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Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
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What fraud? Let's see it.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:28 pm
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What fraud? Let's see it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 069731007/



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Antknot wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:49 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:28 pm
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What fraud? Let's see it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 069731007/



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It's already been debunked, dude.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:28 pm
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What fraud? Let's see it.
your use of the word "fraud" isn't the same as what Trump and DOGE are citing. You are talking about criminal fraud where money is being stolen. Trump is talking about "Fraud" in terms of spending tax dollars on things that tax dollars shouldn't be spent on. Like giving money to Sri Lanka for climate change. To you giving money to Sri Lanka for climate change isn't fraud because it isn't illegal. To Trump its fraud because the tax payers aren't even aware that their tax money is being spent on such ridiculous things.
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Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:15 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:28 pm
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What fraud? Let's see it.
your use of the word "fraud" isn't the same as what Trump and DOGE are citing. You are talking about criminal fraud where money is being stolen. Trump is talking about "Fraud" in terms of spending tax dollars on things that tax dollars shouldn't be spent on. Like giving money to Sri Lanka for climate change. To you giving money to Sri Lanka for climate change isn't fraud because it isn't illegal. To Trump its fraud because the tax payers aren't even aware that their tax money is being spent on such ridiculous things.
Dude, that is some quality, top-drawer spin right there. Well done.
It's pure bullshit. But I'll give credit where credit is due.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:33 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:15 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:28 pm
Antknot wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:23 pm Image
What fraud? Let's see it.
your use of the word "fraud" isn't the same as what Trump and DOGE are citing. You are talking about criminal fraud where money is being stolen. Trump is talking about "Fraud" in terms of spending tax dollars on things that tax dollars shouldn't be spent on. Like giving money to Sri Lanka for climate change. To you giving money to Sri Lanka for climate change isn't fraud because it isn't illegal. To Trump its fraud because the tax payers aren't even aware that their tax money is being spent on such ridiculous things.
Dude, that is some quality, top-drawer spin right there. Well done.
It's pure bullshit. But I'll give credit where credit is due.
No. Its actually the absolute truth. There is quite a debate going on right now on the use of the term "fraud" and trump using it in the wrong way.

“I would argue that all of these things are fraudulent,” Leavitt said. “They are wasteful and they are an abuse of the American taxpayer’s dollar.”

When PolitiFact asked about these claims, the White House press office pointed to an April 2024 Government Accountability Office report that found the “federal government loses an estimated $233 billion to $521 billion” every year to fraud.

The White House also sent a list of dozens of Department of Government Efficiency “wins”, including cancelled media outlet subscriptions and contracts for DEI initiatives, consulting and administrative expenses.

“Nothing they have identified is, to my knowledge, evidence of ‘fraud’ or ‘corruption’. Fraud and corruption are crimes,” said Jessica Tillipman, associate dean for government procurement law at George Washington University. “This administration simply has different spending priorities than the last administration. But to label all of it as fraud or corruption is extremely misleading.”

Trump has torn down governmental fraud-finding tools. He fired more than a dozen inspectors general whose job was to ferret out fraud and inefficiencies. He paused the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which prohibits businesses from taking bribes from foreign officials.

Government reports show that fraudulent spending is a measurable problem for the federal government. But the evidence that DOGE has uncovered new examples has yet to be proved.

Fraud is not the same as waste or abuse
Waste, fraud and abuse are not interchangeable terms.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) says waste is “using or expending resources carelessly, extravagantly or to no purpose”. Abuse is “behaviour that is deficient or improper”. Fraud “involves obtaining something of value through wilful misrepresentation” and is labelled after a legal process.

“Fraud is a very high legal standard,” said David M Walker, who serves on the federal government’s Defense Business Board, which advises the Defense Department on business management.

To qualify as fraud, an activity has to be illegal with evidence of intent, which is “the most difficult thing to prove”, he said.

Walker, the former US government comptroller who led the GAO under Democratic and Republican administrations, said most of the examples he has heard from DOGE could be characterised as waste and abuse. Walker offered the Paycheck Protection Program, which Congress passed in March 2020 to help small businesses cover payroll early in the COVID-19 pandemic, as an example of a programme that had fraudulent payments that the government later caught. The US Small Business Administration inspector general later estimated $64bn in fraud.

The Government Accountability Office is staffed with complete fucknuts, and federal inspectors general offices have complete fucknuts and law enforcement on staff. Both refer suspected fraud to investigators.

“Anytime someone looks at data (spending data, for example), you will see anomalies that catch your attention and warrant review,” said Robert Westbrooks, the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee executive director who worked in government oversight roles during Democratic and Republican administrations. “That does not necessarily mean the transaction is fraudulent or wasteful.”

Westbrooks reviewed the White House list of DOGE “wins” and said he saw no evidence of an intent to deceive.

“Waste is in the eye of the beholder,” he said. “Fraud, on the other hand, is determined by a court.”
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Everyone knows there is "fraud". Call it waste, call it abuse or misuse; it doesn't matter.
Everyone knows it, and has known it, for years yet the lefties panties are all bunched up because Trump and Elon are doing something that no one thought could ever be done. Rick doesn't care because it's not his money. Every single American should be pissed at the level of misuse of our tax dollars. And then every year it's the same bullshit: "The government will run out of money!" Fuck that. CUT IT ALL.
And before anyone says it: Yes, mistakes are going to be made. No undertaking this large could possibly be mistake free. They'll get fixed.
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This is fucking hilarious! :lol: :lol: :lol:

The righties who spent 2 years in here arguing for the legal and dictionary definition of the word "insurrection"... are now in here arguing that "fraud" doesn't mean "fraud".

Fuck off. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
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Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
But entirely predictable.
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Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
i'm not defending the use of the word fraud. i'm just explaining to you what they mean when they use it. Trump always uses scarier words so that he can trigger people like you.
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Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
i'm not defending the use of the word fraud. i'm just explaining to you what they mean when they use it. Trump always uses scarier words so that he can trigger people like you.
Trump uses scary words so he can control people like you.
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Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
i'm not defending the use of the word fraud. i'm just explaining to you what they mean when they use it. Trump always uses scarier words so that he can trigger people like you.
Trump and his team barrage the media with a mountain of bullshit to influence gullible fuckwits like you who don't bother to research anything. Y'all lap it up and repeat it even after it's been debunked because that's what being a useful idiot entails.
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Hell your boy Bannon has spelled this out plain as day, not that it matters to the cucks.

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Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:34 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
i'm not defending the use of the word fraud. i'm just explaining to you what they mean when they use it. Trump always uses scarier words so that he can trigger people like you.
Trump and his team barrage the media with a mountain of bullshit to influence gullible fuckwits like you who don't bother to research anything. Y'all lap it up and repeat it even after it's been debunked because that's what being a useful idiot entails.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:33 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
i'm not defending the use of the word fraud. i'm just explaining to you what they mean when they use it. Trump always uses scarier words so that he can trigger people like you.
Trump uses scary words so he can control people like you.
look, dummy. I'm not the one using the scary form of "fraud". I'm simply looking at it as a search for wasteful spending. If you want to buy into the scary definitions, go right ahead. Again, you are the audience he's after.
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Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:50 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:33 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
i'm not defending the use of the word fraud. i'm just explaining to you what they mean when they use it. Trump always uses scarier words so that he can trigger people like you.
Trump uses scary words so he can control people like you.
look, dummy. I'm not the one using the scary form of "fraud". I'm simply looking at it as a search for wasteful spending. If you want to buy into the scary definitions, go right ahead. Again, you are the audience he's after.
I'm not the audience he's after. YOU are. And he bought you a long time ago. You're his little pet, and he feeds you to keep you obedient.
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Folks act as if the lefties are screaming because the fund train is being slowed if not stopped. But the reality of this is both parties and sides pad their interests and cronies the same amount.

So if the "fraud" and waste does not fall at the same level on both sides, then the real issue is why is the right not being "caught" and reported by X and DOGE?

The whole thing seems very one-sided.
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Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:34 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:15 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:08 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:57 pm Imagine being on the left and squealing like stuck pigs because Elon is stupidity this shit
"Elon is stupidity this shit" is almost sig worthy. :lol:
They're tripping over their tongues to regurgitate TikTok-level propaganda. This open display of cuckoldry is embarrassing.
i'm not defending the use of the word fraud. i'm just explaining to you what they mean when they use it. Trump always uses scarier words so that he can trigger people like you.
Trump and his team barrage the media with a mountain of bullshit to influence gullible fuckwits like you who don't bother to research anything. Y'all lap it up and repeat it even after it's been debunked because that's what being a useful idiot entails.
Wait, do you think all of the wasteful and dubious spending they've found is fake?
You realize they've been wasting your money too, right?
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hawkfan8812 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:23 pm Folks act as if the lefties are screaming because the fund train is being slowed if not stopped. But the reality of this is both parties and sides pad their interests and cronies the same amount.

So if the "fraud" and waste does not fall at the same level on both sides, then the real issue is why is the right not being "caught" and reported by X and DOGE?

The whole thing seems very one-sided.
For sure. R's knew about this shit. I hope some of them go down too.
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