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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/p ... trump.html

Obama's FBI was spying on the Trump administration before the election.

Since a disproved secret dossier from a foreign intelligence officer was justification for a FISA warrant, why not use it to spy on other Americans?

Now that we have that secret dossier from Venezuela which was delivered by a foreign intelligence officer, Trump can use it for lots of things. It's not like Democrats can all of a sudden have a problem with obviously false secret dossiers.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 6:04 pm Since a disproved secret dossier from a foreign intelligence officer was justification for a FISA warrant, why not use it to spy on other Americans?

Now that we have that secret dossier from Venezuela which was delivered by a foreign intelligence officer, Trump can use it for lots of things. It's not like Democrats can all of a sudden have a problem with obviously false secret dossiers.

Except the FISA warrant wasn't issued because of the dossier. This lie has been discussed and disproven ad nauseum.

"It's already been established by the House Intelligence Committee that the Russia investigation began after the FBI learned that another campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, had been approached by a Russian agent. The agent told Papadopoulos the Russians had incriminating information about Hillary Clinton, including emails, according to court documents.. Papadopoulos then mentioned to an Australian diplomat that the Russians had "dirt" on Clinton, the Australians contacted the U.S. government, and the FBI began to take a look."


Here, educate yourself. I know it wont matter because it doesn't fit your narrative and the lie normalized by Fox.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-cour ... nt-n893666

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41990 ... abuses-yet

The email exchanges show the FBI was aware — before it secured the now-infamous warrant — that there were intelligence community concerns about the reliability of the main evidence used to support it: the Christopher Steele dossier.



NPR must be another of those well known right wing news outlets
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/63134352 ... a-document

In the filing, investigators cited a number of reasons they believed it, including the FBI's past experience in dealing with Page — who had been targeted for recruitment by Russia's foreign intelligence service — and then-new reports the FBI was getting from a former British intelligence officer, Christopher Steele.

It's nice the NBC / MSNBC is considered reliable and Fox isn't.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 6:24 pm https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41990 ... abuses-yet

The email exchanges show the FBI was aware — before it secured the now-infamous warrant — that there were intelligence community concerns about the reliability of the main evidence used to support it: the Christopher Steele dossier.



NPR must be another of those well known right wing news outlets
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/63134352 ... a-document

In the filing, investigators cited a number of reasons they believed it, including the FBI's past experience in dealing with Page — who had been targeted for recruitment by Russia's foreign intelligence service — and then-new reports the FBI was getting from a former British intelligence officer, Christopher Steele.

again.....the dossier was not the major reason for the warrant...…...and the investigation was going on already. Its hard for you to understand that I guess?

Stapes wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 6:31 pm
again.....the dossier was not the major reason for the warrant...…...and the investigation was going on already. Its hard for you to understand that I guess?

ah, I should get my news from NBC / MSNBC like you.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 6:33 pm

Stapes wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 6:31 pm
again.....the dossier was not the major reason for the warrant...…...and the investigation was going on already. Its hard for you to understand that I guess?

ah, I should get my news from NBC / MSNBC like you.

I guess it's better than pulling it out of your asshole.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossi ... l-of-this/




A memo released Feb. 2, 2018, by the Republicans on the House intelligence committee raised concerns about the use of the dossier in an application from the DOJ and FBI under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to conduct electronic surveillance on Carter Page, another Trump campaign foreign policy adviser. But it said the “Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016.”
The Democrats on the House intelligence committee agreed with that, saying in a memo released Feb. 24, 2018, that the FBI investigation started “more than seven weeks” before the FBI received Steele’s intelligence reporting in mid-September of that year.
The two sides disagree about how essential the dossier was to the FISA court application to monitor Page. But one of the few points of agreement is that the FBI investigation began with information on Papadopoulos.
After the GOP memo was released, Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, also a member of the intelligence committee, said the dossier didn’t have any effect on the Russia investigation. “I actually don’t think it has any impact on the Russia probe,” Gowdy said on Feb. 4, 2018, on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
Gowdy mentioned other incidents that had nothing to do with the dossier, including Papadopoulos’ contacts with the professor and the June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting Donald Trump Jr. arranged with what he was told was a “Russian government attorney” offering incriminating information on Hillary Clinton. “So there’s going to be a Russia probe, even without a dossier.”

Stapes wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 6:37 pm

I guess it's better than pulling it out of your asshole.

You mean like NPR and The Hill? Let me guess, right wing organizations looking to destroy America?

When was The Steele Dossier disproved? Oh what? Never?

Just wondering, are you saying the dossier wasn't used as evidence in the FISA warrant or that it wasn't the sole evidence?

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/63134352 ... a-document

Just as a note from this article at NPR:

"The FBI's Russia investigation began in the summer of 2016 when investigators learned that a Trump campaign foreign policy aide, George Papadopoulos, had been importuned by Russian intelligence operatives in London. They offered him "dirt" on Hillary Clinton and "off-the-record" meetings with Russian officials."

Per the NYTimes today - that was actually an FBI person who approached him. Woops. So the reason for the investigation was the FBI's own actions which justified everything else. Was this contact with Papadopoulos used as evidence for the warrant?

"In the filing, investigators cited a number of reasons they believed it, including the FBI's past experience in dealing with Page — who had been targeted for recruitment by Russia's foreign intelligence service — and then-new reports the FBI was getting from a former British intelligence officer, Christopher Steele."

So a likely FBI agent tried to target him and the Steele dossier.

Maybe he shouldn't have hired criminals in his campaign.

I would love to to believe that the deep state cunts who got this whole thing started would be brought to justice, but I doubt it. I don't even know what the impact would be, as Americans have simply not been prepared for such a possibility. Remember all the faggotry when the report came back?
Now imagine how many people would shit their pants when they heard oh yeah, also a bunch of people from the last administration are under investigation.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 6:55 pm https://www.npr.org/2018/07/23/63134352 ... a-document

Just as a note from this article at NPR:

"The FBI's Russia investigation began in the summer of 2016 when investigators learned that a Trump campaign foreign policy aide, George Papadopoulos, had been importuned by Russian intelligence operatives in London. They offered him "dirt" on Hillary Clinton and "off-the-record" meetings with Russian officials."

Per the NYTimes today - that was actually an FBI person who approached him. Woops. So the reason for the investigation was the FBI's own actions which justified everything else. Was this contact with Papadopoulos used as evidence for the warrant?

"In the filing, investigators cited a number of reasons they believed it, including the FBI's past experience in dealing with Page — who had been targeted for recruitment by Russia's foreign intelligence service — and then-new reports the FBI was getting from a former British intelligence officer, Christopher Steele."

So a likely FBI agent tried to target him and the Steele dossier.

And again....if you can read......the FBI started to investigate when they were contacted by the AUSTRALIAN government about him running his mouth to an Australian diplomat in London about using hacked emails from Russia

Are you trying to tell me that the FBI shouldn't investigate credible information about a foreign government working with a presidential candidate that is known for decades to run a shady organization? That's there fucking job buddy. Sorry you don't like their methodology for investigating.
It's not "Obama's" FBI. It's ours.

Holy shit, Trump and the GOP hired criminals and they got caught by law enforcement and punished by the judicial system, what a horrible day for America

Stapes wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:37 pm And again....if you can read......the FBI started to investigate when they were contacted by the AUSTRALIAN government about him running his mouth to an Australian diplomat in London about using hacked emails from Russia

You do realize who the Australian diplomat was that he supposedly said these thing to right?


https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 06ae87aeef

beagleboy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:45 pm

Stapes wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:37 pm And again....if you can read......the FBI started to investigate when they were contacted by the AUSTRALIAN government about him running his mouth to an Australian diplomat in London about using hacked emails from Russia

You do realize who the Australian diplomat was that he supposedly said these thing to right?


https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 06ae87aeef

You got all kinds of conspiracy theories going eh? Down the rabbit hole you go. lol

The FBI sent an investigator to meet Papadopolous, a guy currently in prison for lying to the FBI about what he was doing, which was trying to establish back door channels with the Russians. Since we now know the Russians were actively working to subvert your election and Papadopolous was trying to help them, what possible reason can you deluded trump cucks come up with for objecting to the FBI investigating it? Insane.

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:37 pm The FBI sent an investigator to meet Papadopolous, a guy currently in prison for lying to the FBI about what he was doing, which was trying to establish back door channels with the Russians. Since we now know the Russians were actively working to subvert your election and Papadopolous was trying to help them, what possible reason can you deluded trump cucks come up with for objecting to the FBI investigating it? Insane.

Yep, we all know LEO can never use an undercover officer. Amirite? Someone should inform Sonny Barger.

DandyDon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:51 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:37 pm The FBI sent an investigator to meet Papadopolous, a guy currently in prison for lying to the FBI about what he was doing, which was trying to establish back door channels with the Russians. Since we now know the Russians were actively working to subvert your election and Papadopolous was trying to help them, what possible reason can you deluded trump cucks come up with for objecting to the FBI investigating it? Insane.

Yep, we all know LEO can never use an undercover officer. Amirite? Someone should inform Sonny Barger.

And wasn't the Steele Dossier financed by a conservative group for several months before Clinton ever contracted with Fusion?

spudoc wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:32 pm

DandyDon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:51 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:37 pm The FBI sent an investigator to meet Papadopolous, a guy currently in prison for lying to the FBI about what he was doing, which was trying to establish back door channels with the Russians. Since we now know the Russians were actively working to subvert your election and Papadopolous was trying to help them, what possible reason can you deluded trump cucks come up with for objecting to the FBI investigating it? Insane.

Yep, we all know LEO can never use an undercover officer. Amirite? Someone should inform Sonny Barger.

And wasn't the Steele Dossier financed by a conservative group for several months before Clinton ever contracted with Fusion?

This conspiracy runs deeper than party politics man, it's the Jews.

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:34 pm

spudoc wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:32 pm

DandyDon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:51 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:37 pm The FBI sent an investigator to meet Papadopolous, a guy currently in prison for lying to the FBI about what he was doing, which was trying to establish back door channels with the Russians. Since we now know the Russians were actively working to subvert your election and Papadopolous was trying to help them, what possible reason can you deluded trump cucks come up with for objecting to the FBI investigating it? Insane.

Yep, we all know LEO can never use an undercover officer. Amirite? Someone should inform Sonny Barger.

And wasn't the Steele Dossier financed by a conservative group for several months before Clinton ever contracted with Fusion?

This conspiracy runs deeper than party politics man, it's the Jews.

Isn't it always?

spudoc wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:38 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:34 pm

spudoc wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 10:32 pm

DandyDon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:51 pm

AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 9:37 pm The FBI sent an investigator to meet Papadopolous, a guy currently in prison for lying to the FBI about what he was doing, which was trying to establish back door channels with the Russians. Since we now know the Russians were actively working to subvert your election and Papadopolous was trying to help them, what possible reason can you deluded trump cucks come up with for objecting to the FBI investigating it? Insane.

Yep, we all know LEO can never use an undercover officer. Amirite? Someone should inform Sonny Barger.

And wasn't the Steele Dossier financed by a conservative group for several months before Clinton ever contracted with Fusion?

This conspiracy runs deeper than party politics man, it's the Jews.

Isn't it always?

That's what the masons want you to think.

Tiny problem.
The dossier is real.