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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
wut?
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Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
He said in the OP that it will probably take 2 years to sell the house. But he's already planning on killing the cat.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:16 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
He said in the OP that it will probably take 2 years to sell the house. But he's already planning on killing the cat.
And he's justified it.

Isn't this how most serial killers get their start?
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He's not selling the house, the cat will outlive him and WTC needs attention.


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Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
Is this same cat that disappeared for a week not all that long ago? :roll:
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
Someone should shoot you & put you out of your sorry ass misery. Think about it. Why not shoot yourself & before that send the cat to me fucker, I'll take good care of it too.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
You could find a shelter if you put a little effort into it, you just want to kill the cat.
wut?
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:34 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
Is this same cat that disappeared for a week not all that long ago? :roll:
Yeah, a couple of years ago. Showed back up 4 days later sicker than shit and hallucinating. Lost 40% body weight. Noticed Dad had dropped some of his medicine on the floor. Figured he lapped it up like candy. The cat I think already has a problem. He seems to have migraines since when you pat him on his head, he winces in pain. Like I said, it's just a pet.
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Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:40 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
You could find a shelter if you put a little effort into it, you just want to kill the cat.

Srsly. What a sad ignorant fuck WTC turned out to be.
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No wonder his wife left him, his father killed himself, and he's all alone. :roll:
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Biker wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:58 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:46 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:40 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
You could find a shelter if you put a little effort into it, you just want to kill the cat.

Srsly. What a sad ignorant fuck WTC turned out to be.
Says the 60yo cunt whose family laughs at him when he turns on some new hip hop garbage.

Go fuck yourself
No. old man who's not much younger than me. Go FUCK YOURSELF you fucking chump. Anybody that abuses animals is a scumbag in my book & now you, being the stupid fuck wants to defend him? Srsly, you too are an ignorant douchebag, but everyone on this board already knows that so STFU and DIAF scumbag.
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Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:40 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
You could find a shelter if you put a little effort into it, you just want to kill the cat.
There are like 100 million cats ( whatever) roaming free across the US landscape. And I'm supposed to be worried about this one cat that I've fed, bathed and taken care of for 7+ years. Never could get the morbid outspoken grief of people when their pets die. So, you couldn't figure your lifespan is like upper 70's and your pets are like 10. So, you are going to see 7-8 pets die in your lifetime and you are shocked to the core every time it happens. I don't understand this mentality. They are just animals.
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Did I mention that Biker is an ignorant prejudice and racist fuck? That's right, we already know that about the scumbag. :roll:
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:40 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Wut wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:14 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 10:15 am Animal cruelty is a felony in Texas, punishable for up to 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000.
Good luck LEO witnessing that in the middle of 5,000 square miles of wilderness. My problem, it's a cat. If it was a dog, load him/her in a car and take to the new place, lay down food and that dog is good to go. This cat is an outdoor used only to his immediate surroundings for his entire life. Moving won't work for him. I won't see this cat suffer when I don't even know where I'm moving. It's actually amazing how perceptive pets can be. Within a day after Dad dying, this cat knew something was seriously wrong when he didn't show up.
The cat may adjust with little difficulty where you're going or may adjust to someone else's home if you take him to a shelter. You seem to just want to kill a cat.
And you would be wrong. Most amazing cat I've ever been around. Absolutely loves baths. I've taken care of him for 7+ years, it's just where I need to go right now doesn't include cats. There is no shelters around here in the middle of Nowhere. Strays everywhere. I don't want to see him suffer in his older days foraging in the Wild. Think of it like a cowboy back in the 1800's when his horse breaks a leg. Shoot it to put it out of his misery. Not a decision I take lightly.
You could find a shelter if you put a little effort into it, you just want to kill the cat.
There are like 100 million cats ( whatever) roaming free across the US landscape. And I'm supposed to be worried about this one cat that I've fed, bathed and taken care of for 7+ years. Never could get the morbid outspoken grief of people when their pets die. So, you couldn't figure your lifespan is like upper 70's and your pets are like 10. So, you are going to see 7-8 pets die in your lifetime and you are shocked to the core every time it happens. I don't understand this mentality. They are just animals.
Whatever asshole. Just keep bragging about killing an innocent cat. You make me sick.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 pm And I'm supposed to be worried about this one cat that I've fed, bathed and taken care of for 7+ years.
Wow. :eek:
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Don't listen to idiots who aren't in the market and/or think Moron Don is doing a good job. The housing market DIED the day after he was elected.
That said, I'm going on the market next week. Yes, losing money as always under Republicans but in a very low inventory, a strategic move.
Hopefully it sells. I'm not totally confident.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:07 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 pm And I'm supposed to be worried about this one cat that I've fed, bathed and taken care of for 7+ years.
Wow. :eek:
I'm speechless
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Biker wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:15 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 pm Did I mention that Biker is an ignorant prejudice and racist fuck? That's right, we already know that about the scumbag. :roll:
Did I mention your wife is barely above the level of an lower order primate?

Think about it
She's an angel & she's highly intelligent and gorgeous. Much better than the fat pig white wife you have too. Think about that. :lol: ;)
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Biker wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:16 pm
Tuesday wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:10 pm Don't listen to idiots who aren't in the market and/or think Moron Don is doing a good job. The housing market DIED the day after he was elected.
That said, I'm going on the market next week. Yes, losing money as always under Republicans but in a very low inventory, a strategic move.
Hopefully it sells. I'm not totally confident.
So why are you selling in the middle of Chairman Newsom's lockdown?
Oh gawd we could be here all day but let's just condense it in to moving away from MAGATS.
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Tuesday wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:18 pm
Biker wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:16 pm
Tuesday wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:10 pm Don't listen to idiots who aren't in the market and/or think Moron Don is doing a good job. The housing market DIED the day after he was elected.
That said, I'm going on the market next week. Yes, losing money as always under Republicans but in a very low inventory, a strategic move.
Hopefully it sells. I'm not totally confident.
So why are you selling in the middle of Chairman Newsom's lockdown?
Oh gawd we could be here all day but let's just condense it in to moving away from MAGATS.
Good idea. This stupid fuck Biker tends to be redundant.
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CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:15 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:07 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 pm And I'm supposed to be worried about this one cat that I've fed, bathed and taken care of for 7+ years.
Wow. :eek:
I'm speechless
About time. So, feel free. I'm moving on and this cat's not coming. So I'll take suggestions. This is first world BS
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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:20 pm
Tuesday wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:18 pm
Biker wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:16 pm
Tuesday wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:10 pm Don't listen to idiots who aren't in the market and/or think Moron Don is doing a good job. The housing market DIED the day after he was elected.
That said, I'm going on the market next week. Yes, losing money as always under Republicans but in a very low inventory, a strategic move.
Hopefully it sells. I'm not totally confident.
So why are you selling in the middle of Chairman Newsom's lockdown?
Oh gawd we could be here all day but let's just condense it in to moving away from MAGATS.
Good idea. This stupid fuck Biker tends to be redundant.

I have had black neighbors (renters) way back when and they called the cops on our dozers when we replaced the driveway 😂😂
We had a Mexican peeping Tom who built his whole house to facilitate his peep show. (We figure out later)
We had Asian neighbors who ran a "grow house"

But we have NEVER EVER EVER dealt with the scumbags we deal with now. That said, they are but one reason but a big one.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:21 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:15 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:07 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 pm And I'm supposed to be worried about this one cat that I've fed, bathed and taken care of for 7+ years.
Wow. :eek:
I'm speechless
About time. So, feel free. I'm moving on and this cat's not coming. So I'll take suggestions. This is first world BS
You outright refuse suggestions and circle back to shooting the cat
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:21 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:15 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:07 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 11:02 pm And I'm supposed to be worried about this one cat that I've fed, bathed and taken care of for 7+ years.
Wow. :eek:
I'm speechless
About time. So, feel free. I'm moving on and this cat's not coming. So I'll take suggestions. This is first world BS
Do us all a favor... wherever it is you're going, make sure it has no internet.
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