Maybe cause not one of us are coming from the position of trying to justify attempted murder. Just you.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:50 pm maybe its just the line of work that I am in, but I can't judge a situation and not provide an alternative.
If something goes wrong on one of my jobs and I tell them "Don't ever let that happen again". Maybe throw in, "someone will be fired". Their first response is going to be "Well if the situation comes up again, what do you want us to do different?"
My answer can't be "Just don't do what you did again". I can't be vague. I have to tell them a different way to do it. I can't start saying shit like "well you guys are just moving goal posts. Or yall are being obtuse. Or yall are idiots. Or yall are just distracting, diverting or looking for justification."
I have to use plain english and explain exactly what I would expect them to do different. Not one of you fucks can do that.
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you've more than proven you have no solution. so you can shut the fuck up. thanks.dot wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:57 pmMaybe cause not one of us are coming from the position of trying to justify attempted murder. Just you.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:50 pm maybe its just the line of work that I am in, but I can't judge a situation and not provide an alternative.
If something goes wrong on one of my jobs and I tell them "Don't ever let that happen again". Maybe throw in, "someone will be fired". Their first response is going to be "Well if the situation comes up again, what do you want us to do different?"
My answer can't be "Just don't do what you did again". I can't be vague. I have to tell them a different way to do it. I can't start saying shit like "well you guys are just moving goal posts. Or yall are being obtuse. Or yall are idiots. Or yall are just distracting, diverting or looking for justification."
I have to use plain english and explain exactly what I would expect them to do different. Not one of you fucks can do that.
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three months of you stupid fucks coming up with an alternative for the police and we have: beat him up, trip him, throw a net over him, shoot out his tires, or let him drive away and go get him later. I hope that's what Biden shows up to the debates with.
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LET'S JUST FILL HIM FULL OF LEAD!!!! Trump probably
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SOAK THE HOLLOW POINTS IN BLEACH SO THE BLACK CRIMINAL DON'T GET THE RONA AND MAKE MY NUMBERS LOOK BAD!!!!
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Do you understand all those options would have meant not killing him? Competent policing would have had him taken into custody alive. Your position that the police should shoot as soon as they have an excuse is what the country is protesting about. I hope trump does stake out that position at the debate, at least it would be honest.
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AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:24 amDo you understand all those options would have meant not killing him? Competent policing would have had him taken into custody alive. Your position that the police should shoot as soon as they have an excuse is what the country is protesting about. I hope trump does stake out that position at the debate, at least it would be honest.
you don't even know what the facts are yet. what if the guy told the cops that if he gets away (during the struggle) he is going to take this knife and gut those kids like catfish on a trotline.
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What if he had a NUCLEAR BOMB!!!!!!
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Then the let him drive away and scoop him up later option goes away and you still have the other options. The point here is that the shoot him dead option is the last one, that's what the US police don't grasp. It's not in their training or attitude. You saw the video of british police taking on a crazy nut with a knife right? In the US he'd have been told to drop it then shot dead when he didn't, but there are in fact other options. And he was actually being threatening with the knife.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:27 amAnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:24 amDo you understand all those options would have meant not killing him? Competent policing would have had him taken into custody alive. Your position that the police should shoot as soon as they have an excuse is what the country is protesting about. I hope trump does stake out that position at the debate, at least it would be honest.
you don't even know what the facts are yet. what if the guy told the cops that if he gets away (during the struggle) he is going to take this knife and gut those kids like catfish on a trotline.
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Flumper would have been okay if it was a white kid with an AR-15.........but this guy looked like one of them thugs......them gang bangers........so we must kill him or he will travel to bumfuck Texas and rape Flumper's cattle.
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well, let's see, he was getting in the car and the kids were inside. so shooting out the tires wouldn't have done any good. it would be tough to throw a net over a dude in a car. um. tripping him wouldn't work. i'm just saying that there must have been some bad ass shit fixing to go down for that cop to pump 7 shots into him. Either that or the cop is a complete psychopath.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:33 amThen the let him drive away and scoop him up later option goes away and you still have the other options. The point here is that the shoot him dead option is the last one, that's what the US police don't grasp. It's not in their training or attitude. You saw the video of british police taking on a crazy nut with a knife right? In the US he'd have been told to drop it then shot dead when he didn't, but there are in fact other options. And he was actually being threatening with the knife.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:27 amAnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:24 amDo you understand all those options would have meant not killing him? Competent policing would have had him taken into custody alive. Your position that the police should shoot as soon as they have an excuse is what the country is protesting about. I hope trump does stake out that position at the debate, at least it would be honest.
you don't even know what the facts are yet. what if the guy told the cops that if he gets away (during the struggle) he is going to take this knife and gut those kids like catfish on a trotline.
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See, when I saw this latest idiocy, I was gonna say, WHAT IF HE HAD A NUCLEAR BOMB?!, and Quint got to it first. But beyond that, we already know that there are no facts that will sway you from wanting to justify unjustified attempted murder. You’ve already demonstrated and admitted you aren’t willing to actually engage in worthwhile debate, as you lack the intellect and human decency to start with.
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so tell me what the facts are.dot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:38 amSee, when I saw this latest idiocy, I was gonna say, WHAT IF HE HAD A NUCLEAR BOMB?!, and Quint got to it first. But beyond that, we already know that there are no facts that will sway you from wanting to justify unjustified attempted murder. You’ve already demonstrated and admitted you aren’t willing to actually engage in worthwhile debate, as you lack the intellect and human decency to start with.
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You understand cars need tires right? Also car keys and the driver sitting in the driving seat. How does tripping someone ever not work? What you mean is the police there don't want to break a fingernail and shooting is easier. Have you seen the video? It was clearly not a situation where all options other than shooting him in the spine had been eliminated. And even when all options other than shooting have been eliminated, which they hadn't in this case, there remains the option of where to shoot him. Dude used to have legs.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:37 amwell, let's see, he was getting in the car and the kids were inside. so shooting out the tires wouldn't have done any good. it would be tough to throw a net over a dude in a car. um. tripping him wouldn't work. i'm just saying that there must have been some bad ass shit fixing to go down for that cop to pump 7 shots into him. Either that or the cop is a complete psychopath.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:33 amThen the let him drive away and scoop him up later option goes away and you still have the other options. The point here is that the shoot him dead option is the last one, that's what the US police don't grasp. It's not in their training or attitude. You saw the video of british police taking on a crazy nut with a knife right? In the US he'd have been told to drop it then shot dead when he didn't, but there are in fact other options. And he was actually being threatening with the knife.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:27 amAnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:24 amDo you understand all those options would have meant not killing him? Competent policing would have had him taken into custody alive. Your position that the police should shoot as soon as they have an excuse is what the country is protesting about. I hope trump does stake out that position at the debate, at least it would be honest.
you don't even know what the facts are yet. what if the guy told the cops that if he gets away (during the struggle) he is going to take this knife and gut those kids like catfish on a trotline.
Can you grasp the idea that US police are regarding deadly force as far too high on the options list? Not just in this case, in all the cases.
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I"m not endorsing jack shit. I want to know what the facts were. you seem to have them, so let's hear them.
the only thing i have endorsed is that i think people should wait until we know the facts before we burn down cities and loot stores and start riots that get people killed.
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black man jaywalking in Omaha, Nebraska.
Cop: Hey you! Get down on your knees and raise your hands above your head!
Negro fella: Hey fuck you pig! (runs away)
Cop empties mag into black guy
Bystander: Hey Officer Lou! Why did you do that?
Officer Lou: He probably had a knife. Knives don't run out of ammo like I do, he could've carved up 50 white women.
Bystander: Good work Lou.
Cop: Hey you! Get down on your knees and raise your hands above your head!
Negro fella: Hey fuck you pig! (runs away)
Cop empties mag into black guy
Bystander: Hey Officer Lou! Why did you do that?
Officer Lou: He probably had a knife. Knives don't run out of ammo like I do, he could've carved up 50 white women.
Bystander: Good work Lou.
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Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:51 am I"m not endorsing jack shit. I want to know what the facts were. you seem to have them, so let's hear them.
the only thing i have endorsed is that i think people should wait until we know the facts before we burn down cities and loot stores and start riots that get people killed.
This is you. Stating that you think the situation warranted shooting him in the back 7 times in the back, attempted murder. Vile POS.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:05 pm i said, if all the cops had when they walked up was his prior record history, and nothing else, then it would not have been warranted. But, when you take that information and throw in resisting arrest (on this day), being tased by a cop and fighting it off, struggling free from 3 police, having a weapon in your hand, and then attempting to get in a car, then you have opened things up to being shot.
read back up if you're too stupid to keep up.
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maybe you don't understand what I meant by "opened things up to being shot". What I mean, is that if all of those things have happened and you make some kind of threat and have a weapon, you will probably get shot. If you can't understand that, then I can't help you.dot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:03 amFlumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:51 am I"m not endorsing jack shit. I want to know what the facts were. you seem to have them, so let's hear them.
the only thing i have endorsed is that i think people should wait until we know the facts before we burn down cities and loot stores and start riots that get people killed.This is you. Stating that you think the situation warranted shooting him in the back 7 times in the back, attempted murder. Vile POS.Flumper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:05 pm i said, if all the cops had when they walked up was his prior record history, and nothing else, then it would not have been warranted. But, when you take that information and throw in resisting arrest (on this day), being tased by a cop and fighting it off, struggling free from 3 police, having a weapon in your hand, and then attempting to get in a car, then you have opened things up to being shot.
read back up if you're too stupid to keep up.
but, i will say again. i don't know the facts. the guy either made some kind of threat that put his kids or another officer in danger and the cop felt the need to kill him or the cop is a complete psychopath.
now, share your facts so I can know which of those two is true.
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ftfy.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:06 am maybe you don't understand what I meant by "opened things up to being shot". What I mean, is that if all of those things have happened and you make some kind of threat and have a weapon and are in America where the cops are poorly trained, you will probably get shot. If you can't understand that, then I can't help you.
Here you'd get wrassled. And probably pepper sprayed.
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What I understand is from the start you’ve been looking for a way, an angle, to excuse the inexcusable. That’s your main goal because that’s your starting position. You’ve even invented what-if's to support it. Doesn’t matter what facts are presented, you'll move the goalposts or derp away and pretend it never happened and continue being a vile excuse of a person.Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:06 am maybe you don't understand what I meant by "opened things up to being shot". What I mean, is that if all of those things have happened and you make some kind of threat and have a weapon, you will probably get shot. If you can't understand that, then I can't help you.
but, i will say again. i don't know the facts. the guy either made some kind of threat that put his kids or another officer in danger and the cop felt the need to kill him or the cop is a complete psychopath.
now, share your facts so I can know which of those two is true.