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Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:54 pm 5 insulin pens for $700! Wow. Go USA!!
I pay $16 for 12 of them. On my plan. They are $150 usually.
And at the diabetes clinic (no charge of course) they were giving me free ones until I got my plan activated.
Not sure how you nimrods justify this. What good, other than making rich companies richer, do you feel this creates?
Is Trump in the caravan?
You folks going to give them a severe scolding if they bring them?Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:45 pm And leave your fricken guns at home. We only hug up here.
Nah, we'll just shoot them in the face and skin their guts to line our igloos and fuel our oil lamps.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:47 pmYou folks going to give them a severe scolding if they bring them?Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:45 pm And leave your fricken guns at home. We only hug up here.
America is the land of guns and litigation, so just assume all Americans are gun toting litigants.
VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 3:54 pm Another issue: How will we deal with the inevitable shortages of doctors and facilities, i.e., resources? Canadians, being the kind, patient people they are, will politely wait their turn, it seems. Queue up. Not so Americans. We will complain loudly, call in the media, hold congressional hearings, etc.. because billy the infant couldn't get his heart-lung transplant.
Years ago there was a billy the infant situation in America, in a state with universal health care. As I recall, the answer was no, because it was too iffy and very expensive, a cost which could have given prenatal care to many thousands(?) of women. It became a big pr push to get the transplant. There lies the issue.kwebber wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:35 pmVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 3:54 pm Another issue: How will we deal with the inevitable shortages of doctors and facilities, i.e., resources? Canadians, being the kind, patient people they are, will politely wait their turn, it seems. Queue up. Not so Americans. We will complain loudly, call in the media, hold congressional hearings, etc.. because billy the infant couldn't get his heart-lung transplant.
Please get your fucking facts straight before you run your mouth aboot a subject. "billy the infant" would get his heart-lung transplant first because it's a life threatening situation. Kim Kardashian on the other hand, would have to wait for her non life threatening ass implant surgery, or she can pay a private clinic to handle that elective surgery. That is the queue system in Canada. Life threatening first, the rest of you can wait your turn.
Got any more facts on this case, I don't remember itVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:54 pmYears ago there was a billy the infant situation in America, in a state with universal health care. As I recall, the answer was no, because it was too iffy and very expensive, a cost which could have given prenatal care to many thousands(?) of women. It became a big pr push to get the transplant. There lies the issue.kwebber wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:35 pmVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 3:54 pm Another issue: How will we deal with the inevitable shortages of doctors and facilities, i.e., resources? Canadians, being the kind, patient people they are, will politely wait their turn, it seems. Queue up. Not so Americans. We will complain loudly, call in the media, hold congressional hearings, etc.. because billy the infant couldn't get his heart-lung transplant.
Please get your fucking facts straight before you run your mouth aboot a subject. "billy the infant" would get his heart-lung transplant first because it's a life threatening situation. Kim Kardashian on the other hand, would have to wait for her non life threatening ass implant surgery, or she can pay a private clinic to handle that elective surgery. That is the queue system in Canada. Life threatening first, the rest of you can wait your turn.
If I recall, it would have been around 1987. Maybe later. It was a Big story at the time. A or push to get a transplant for the child, with officials saying how much could be done with that money.Wut wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 12:01 amGot any more facts on this case, I don't remember itVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:54 pmYears ago there was a billy the infant situation in America, in a state with universal health care. As I recall, the answer was no, because it was too iffy and very expensive, a cost which could have given prenatal care to many thousands(?) of women. It became a big pr push to get the transplant. There lies the issue.kwebber wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:35 pmVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 3:54 pm Another issue: How will we deal with the inevitable shortages of doctors and facilities, i.e., resources? Canadians, being the kind, patient people they are, will politely wait their turn, it seems. Queue up. Not so Americans. We will complain loudly, call in the media, hold congressional hearings, etc.. because billy the infant couldn't get his heart-lung transplant.
Please get your fucking facts straight before you run your mouth aboot a subject. "billy the infant" would get his heart-lung transplant first because it's a life threatening situation. Kim Kardashian on the other hand, would have to wait for her non life threatening ass implant surgery, or she can pay a private clinic to handle that elective surgery. That is the queue system in Canada. Life threatening first, the rest of you can wait your turn.
And people keep forgetting that, if you're rich enough, you don't have to wait.kwebber wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:35 pmVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2019 3:54 pm Another issue: How will we deal with the inevitable shortages of doctors and facilities, i.e., resources? Canadians, being the kind, patient people they are, will politely wait their turn, it seems. Queue up. Not so Americans. We will complain loudly, call in the media, hold congressional hearings, etc.. because billy the infant couldn't get his heart-lung transplant.
Please get your fucking facts straight before you run your mouth aboot a subject. "billy the infant" would get his heart-lung transplant first because it's a life threatening situation. Kim Kardashian on the other hand, would have to wait for her non life threatening ass implant surgery, or she can pay a private clinic to handle that elective surgery. That is the queue system in Canada. Life threatening first, the rest of you can wait your turn.
Yes. I lied. I made the whole thing up because you’re that important to me.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 5:00 am So a case you can't recall in a state level universal healthcare system which never existed. Sure.
If billy the infant needed a heart transplant over here, cost wouldn't be a relevant factor. The doctors get their salaries and the patient gets no bill. Simples. Decisions about cost benefit analysis for whether a treatment should be offered in the NHS as a whole are made by an independent agency called NICE. Their published decisions are subject to judicial review. If a treatment is approved, like heart transplants are, then it's a decision for the patient's doctor who has no interest in how much it's going to cost the NHS or how much the patient has already cost the NHS. Compare that to rationing in the US system with insurers making the decisions about what is covered in private, judicial review replaced by suing them, lifetime spending caps, and a decision making body with an interest in the cost of an individual patient and trying to maximise their profit.
It's all part of hammy-Schtick. Years ago we were discussing paid protestors and I remarked that when I worked in a shop in the ghetto I used to see flyers posted on telephone poles that wanted "community activists" to carry picket signs, walk and chant slogans etc. The payment, I believe, was $12 an hour. Since I was unwilling to take a long drive into the Detroit ghetto to take a pic of flyers that may or may not even still be there, I was, of course, making it all up.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 1:48 pmYes. I lied. I made the whole thing up because you’re that important to me.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 5:00 am So a case you can't recall in a state level universal healthcare system which never existed. Sure.
If billy the infant needed a heart transplant over here, cost wouldn't be a relevant factor. The doctors get their salaries and the patient gets no bill. Simples. Decisions about cost benefit analysis for whether a treatment should be offered in the NHS as a whole are made by an independent agency called NICE. Their published decisions are subject to judicial review. If a treatment is approved, like heart transplants are, then it's a decision for the patient's doctor who has no interest in how much it's going to cost the NHS or how much the patient has already cost the NHS. Compare that to rationing in the US system with insurers making the decisions about what is covered in private, judicial review replaced by suing them, lifetime spending caps, and a decision making body with an interest in the cost of an individual patient and trying to maximise their profit.
He can't seem to have a civil conversation. And the anti-American shit gets tedious.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 3:34 pmIt's all part of hammy-Schtick. Years ago we were discussing paid protestors and I remarked that when I worked in a shop in the ghetto I used to see flyers posted on telephone poles that wanted "community activists" to carry picket signs, walk and chant slogans etc. The payment, I believe, was $12 an hour. Since I was unwilling to take a long drive into the Detroit ghetto to take a pic of flyers that may or may not even still be there, I was, of course, making it all up.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 1:48 pmYes. I lied. I made the whole thing up because you’re that important to me.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 5:00 am So a case you can't recall in a state level universal healthcare system which never existed. Sure.
If billy the infant needed a heart transplant over here, cost wouldn't be a relevant factor. The doctors get their salaries and the patient gets no bill. Simples. Decisions about cost benefit analysis for whether a treatment should be offered in the NHS as a whole are made by an independent agency called NICE. Their published decisions are subject to judicial review. If a treatment is approved, like heart transplants are, then it's a decision for the patient's doctor who has no interest in how much it's going to cost the NHS or how much the patient has already cost the NHS. Compare that to rationing in the US system with insurers making the decisions about what is covered in private, judicial review replaced by suing them, lifetime spending caps, and a decision making body with an interest in the cost of an individual patient and trying to maximise their profit.![]()