Objection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
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Where's the "freedom" for those women?
Alabama Lawmakers Pass Bill Banning Nearly All Abortions
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Do conservatives in these states think that eliminating legal abortion will lead to less pregnancies?
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Yeah, trannies are eating feminists' lunch, and there's nothing anyone is able or willing to do about it, because of intersectional victim status points.
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YEAH! FUCK THOSE WOMEN! ARE THEY EVEN HUMAN?!?!VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
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Where's the "freedom" for those women?
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Except for the death penalty, I presume.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pmThey're saying abortion is murder. That's all. That's why no exceptions for rape or incest, etc. Because you don't get a pass to commit murder.
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Good argument. The fact that babies grow in women doesn't discount the idea that killing a baby is murder.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:08 pmYEAH! FUCK THOSE WOMEN! ARE THEY EVEN HUMAN?!?!VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
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Also war?B-Tender wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:09 pmExcept for the death penalty, I presume.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pmThey're saying abortion is murder. That's all. That's why no exceptions for rape or incest, etc. Because you don't get a pass to commit murder.
Another fallacy. C'mon.
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There is quite a difference between war, and the death penalty.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:10 pmAlso war?B-Tender wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:09 pmExcept for the death penalty, I presume.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pmThey're saying abortion is murder. That's all. That's why no exceptions for rape or incest, etc. Because you don't get a pass to commit murder.
Another fallacy. C'mon.
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State sanctioned murder.B-Tender wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:12 pmThere is quite a difference between war, and the death penalty.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:10 pmAlso war?B-Tender wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:09 pmExcept for the death penalty, I presume.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pmThey're saying abortion is murder. That's all. That's why no exceptions for rape or incest, etc. Because you don't get a pass to commit murder.
Another fallacy. C'mon.
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OverruledVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973),[1] was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether or not to have an abortion, while also ruling that this right is not absolute and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life.
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Re: Alabama Lawmakers Pass Bill Banning Nearly All Abortions
Why is there no wailing and gnashing of teeth over the already fertilized embryos in all the fertility clinics that are frozen and then later thrown away or donated to science? Life begins at conception, correct?VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pmThey're saying abortion is murder. That's all. That's why no exceptions for rape or incest, etc. Because you don't get a pass to commit murder.
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You'd have to ask them. I don't know if they do approve of it, or some yes some no.DandyDon wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:53 pmWhy is there no wailing and gnashing of teeth over the already fertilized embryos in all the fertility clinics that are frozen and then later thrown away or donated to science? Life begins at conception, correct?VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 pmThey're saying abortion is murder. That's all. That's why no exceptions for rape or incest, etc. Because you don't get a pass to commit murder.
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A popular opinion is that the finding is bad law, cut out of whole cloth; they wanted to find in favor of abortion, but they had to find a place for it. That's the diff: it's not spelled out in the constitution.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:49 pmOverruledVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973),[1] was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether or not to have an abortion, while also ruling that this right is not absolute and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life.
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Settled law is settled law, the not so popular opinion can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:09 pmA popular opinion is that the finding is bad law, cut out of whole cloth; they wanted to find in favor of abortion, but they had to find a place for it. That's the diff: it's not spelled out in the constitution.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:49 pmOverruledVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973),[1] was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether or not to have an abortion, while also ruling that this right is not absolute and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life.
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If a woman dies in childbirth do we charge the baby with murder?VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:09 pmGood argument. The fact that babies grow in women doesn't discount the idea that killing a baby is murder.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:08 pmYEAH! FUCK THOSE WOMEN! ARE THEY EVEN HUMAN?!?!VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
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Re: Alabama Lawmakers Pass Bill Banning Nearly All Abortions
No such thing as settled law. I'm sure many pro abortion people also feel the RvW finding was bad law.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:16 pmSettled law is settled law, the not so popular opinion can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:09 pmA popular opinion is that the finding is bad law, cut out of whole cloth; they wanted to find in favor of abortion, but they had to find a place for it. That's the diff: it's not spelled out in the constitution.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:49 pmOverruledVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973),[1] was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether or not to have an abortion, while also ruling that this right is not absolute and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life.
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Yes. Yes we do.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:29 pmIf a woman dies in childbirth do we charge the baby with murder?VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:09 pmGood argument. The fact that babies grow in women doesn't discount the idea that killing a baby is murder.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:08 pmYEAH! FUCK THOSE WOMEN! ARE THEY EVEN HUMAN?!?!VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
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I think Brett Kavanaugh disagrees with you. Or maybe he just lied to get the job.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:37 pmNo such thing as settled law. I'm sure many pro abortion people also feel the RvW finding was bad law.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:16 pmSettled law is settled law, the not so popular opinion can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:09 pmA popular opinion is that the finding is bad law, cut out of whole cloth; they wanted to find in favor of abortion, but they had to find a place for it. That's the diff: it's not spelled out in the constitution.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:49 pmOverruledVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:59 pmObjection! Fallacious argument. There is a constitutional right, clearly spelled out in the Bill or Rights, and a core part of what America is, to keep and bear arms.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm Republicans are funny things.
REPUBLICANS: "My right to own any gun I want shall not be infringed upon! Any gun laws are a violation of my rights! FREEDOM!"
ALSO REPUBLICANS: "We're going to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies!"
Where's the "freedom" for those women?
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973),[1] was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether or not to have an abortion, while also ruling that this right is not absolute and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and protecting prenatal life.
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Yep. Hard to beat the success of the war on poverty. Welfare replaced fathers and a dependent class was cemented. Yeah, republicans need to rally behind a results-based program like that.
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These challenges could be because they hope a new scotus will find in their favor. If so, I think they’re mistaken.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 8:34 pm Even Pat Robertson thinks its extreme.
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Its fucking insane. The same people who swear gun laws wont stop gun violence believe abortion laws will stop abortions.
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I actually think it will lower the number of abortions performed, but I don't agree with the law. Having more unplanned/unwanted children isn't good for anyone, especially those children.