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You mean the video that doesn't show the whole thing?
Jfc you're retarded.

I mean the video of the whole incident that showed Bovino and his fascist goons marching into the Target and tackling the kid working for no legitimate reason. Not my fault if you didn't look into it at all and dismissed it without any knowledge while swallowing the fascist propaganda lie you were fed. And it's noted that you still cannot address the other example of a US citizen detained to be deported for no reason other than fascism. Every retarded accusation remains a confession with you, keep proving me right fascist apologist. You make it super easy.

[CHEEZY17]

You mean the video that doesn't show the whole thing?
Jfc you're retarded.

I mean the video of the whole incident that showed Bovino and his fascist goons marching into the Target and tackling the kid working for no legitimate reason. Not my fault if you didn't look into it at all and dismissed it without any knowledge while swallowing the fascist propaganda lie you were fed. And it's noted that you still cannot address the other example of a US citizen detained to be deported for no reason other than fascism. Every retarded accusation remains a confession with you, keep proving me right fascist apologist. You make it super easy.

Why didn't you post that video then instead of the one that only shows him getting taken away?
Go ahead and post it.
As usual, your bullshit doesn't fly.

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Why didn't you post that video then instead of the one that only shows him getting taken away?
Go ahead and post it.
As usual, your bullshit doesn't fly.

Because the conversation subject was US citizens being targeted by ICE who have no jurisdiction over them because they're US citizens. This was evident by the headlines that you willfully ignored favoring the fascist propaganda line as a fascist apologist would. A good faith participant in the discussion would look into it instead of swallowing the propaganda lie, but you don't operate in good faith so that's out the window as always. Still of note, you will not even acknowledge the woman citizen example. Fascism, murder, nothing changes your mind because you're a disgusting traitorous partisan hack with confessions masked as accusations.



Keep proving us right, fascist apologist. You make it super easy.

[Reservoir Dog]

Why didn't you post that video then instead of the one that only shows him getting taken away?
Go ahead and post it.
As usual, your bullshit doesn't fly.

Because the conversation subject was US citizens being targeted by ICE who have no jurisdiction over them because they're US citizens. This was evident by the headlines that you willfully ignored favoring the fascist propaganda line as a fascist apologist would. A good faith participant in the discussion would look into it instead of swallowing the propaganda lie, but you don't operate in good faith so that's out the window as always. Still of note, you will not even acknowledge the woman citizen example. Fascism, murder, nothing changes your mind because you're a disgusting traitorous partisan hack with confessions masked as accusations.



Keep proving us right, fascist apologist. You make it super easy.

[CHEEZY17]

Why didn't you post that video then instead of the one that only shows him getting taken away?
Go ahead and post it.
As usual, your bullshit doesn't fly.

Because the conversation subject was US citizens being targeted by ICE who have no jurisdiction over them because they're US citizens. This was evident by the headlines that you willfully ignored favoring the fascist propaganda line as a fascist apologist would. A good faith participant in the discussion would look into it instead of swallowing the propaganda lie, but you don't operate in good faith so that's out the window as always. Still of note, you will not even acknowledge the woman citizen example. Fascism, murder, nothing changes your mind because you're a disgusting traitorous partisan hack with confessions masked as accusations.



Keep proving us right, fascist apologist. You make it super easy.

So you got called on your bullshit and couldn't back it up!!?? YOU made the claim retard and then you couldn't back it up.
Now you're pivoting!
We can talk about ICE arresting US citizens all you want because they are a law enforcement operation. It is legal for them to detain and or arrest US citizens if they are obstructing or impeding operations. It has it's own statute. You must have missed this because you are retarded:

"Obstructing or interfering with ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents in the performance of their official duties is generally a federal crime. The primary statute that applies is 18 U.S.C. § 111, which makes it illegal to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers or employees (including ICE agents) while they are engaged in their official duties. ICE officers are federal law enforcement officers, so this statute covers them."

Face it, bud. The lefty gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

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So you got called on your bullshit and couldn't back it up!!?? YOU made the claim retard and then you couldn't back it up.
Now you're pivoting!
We can talk about ICE arresting US citizens all you want because they are a law enforcement operation. It is legal for them to detain and or arrest US citizens if they are obstructing or impeding operations. It has it's own statute. You must have missed this because you are retarded:

"Obstructing or interfering with ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents in the performance of their official duties is generally a federal crime. The primary statute that applies is 18 U.S.C. § 111, which makes it illegal to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers or employees (including ICE agents) while they are engaged in their official duties. ICE officers are federal law enforcement officers, so this statute covers them."

Face it, bud. The lefty gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

Did you straight up have a stroke or something? I'm talking about the same thing from my first post here, there's no pivot because US citizens being targeted and detained and deported and murdered is the problem that you're handwaving away. And there is still zero authority or obstruction or interference in said cases, some of which on video unfortunately for you, because they're US citizens and there was no cause for the hostility of the fascist goons except for their feefees getting hurt. And yet you're still parroting the fascist propaganda lie.

Little bro here is acting like he won the game by scoring for the other team. Seriously, keep proving us right, fascist apologist.

[Animal]

I like how when ICE cuffs these nuts in the area they are interfering and then drives them to another part of town and lets them go and its "kidnapping".

This is becoming the Karen Apocolypse.

[CHEEZY17]

So you got called on your bullshit and couldn't back it up!!?? YOU made the claim retard and then you couldn't back it up.
Now you're pivoting!
We can talk about ICE arresting US citizens all you want because they are a law enforcement operation. It is legal for them to detain and or arrest US citizens if they are obstructing or impeding operations. It has it's own statute. You must have missed this because you are retarded:

"Obstructing or interfering with ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents in the performance of their official duties is generally a federal crime. The primary statute that applies is 18 U.S.C. § 111, which makes it illegal to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers or employees (including ICE agents) while they are engaged in their official duties. ICE officers are federal law enforcement officers, so this statute covers them."

Face it, bud. The lefty gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

Did you straight up have a stroke or something? I'm talking about the same thing from my first post here, there's no pivot because US citizens being targeted and detained and deported and murdered is the problem that you're handwaving away. And there is still zero authority or obstruction or interference in said cases, some of which on video unfortunately for you, because they're US citizens and there was no cause for the hostility of the fascist goons except for their feefees getting hurt. And yet you're still parroting the fascist propaganda lie.

Little bro here is acting like he won the game by scoring for the other team. Seriously, keep proving us right, fascist apologist.

Nope, you made a claim. I called you on it and then you couldn't back it up.

Since you're retarded, here is the exchange:

You mean the video that doesn't show the whole thing?
Jfc you're retarded.

You responded with this claim that you had video evidence backing you up. That was a lie because when asked to produce said video you could not do it.

I mean the video of the whole incident that showed Bovino and his fascist goons marching into the Target and tackling the kid working for no legitimate reason. Not my fault if you didn't look into it at all and dismissed it without any knowledge while swallowing the fascist propaganda lie you were fed.

I responded with:

Why didn't you post that video then instead of the one that only shows him getting taken away?
Go ahead and post it.
As usual, your bullshit doesn't fly.

Since you were now caught in your lie (and obviously butt-hurt), you responded with more bullshit about American citizens being arrested and detained when you've already been told that ICE agents arresting and/or detaining American citizens is legal via statute 18 U.S.C. § 111.
It's not my fault you're retarded and don't understand the statute.
Also, I'm not apologizing for anything. I support this and I want this. There is no need for me to be an "ICE Apologist".

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Nope, you made a claim. I called you on it and then you couldn't back it up.

Then you didn't watch the video of Bovino and goons marching into Target and beating the kid. Because that proved what I said, and you were wrong just like with the unwarranted murder of a US citizen. Again.

Since you're retarded, here is the exchange:

You mean the video that doesn't show the whole thing?
Jfc you're retarded.

You responded with this claim that you had video evidence backing you up. That was a lie because when asked to produce said video you could not do it.

I mean the video of the whole incident that showed Bovino and his fascist goons marching into the Target and tackling the kid working for no legitimate reason. Not my fault if you didn't look into it at all and dismissed it without any knowledge while swallowing the fascist propaganda lie you were fed.

Except I did do it, which leads me back to did you literally have a stroke because you're ignoring things literally on the page.

I responded with:

Why didn't you post that video then instead of the one that only shows him getting taken away?
Go ahead and post it.
As usual, your bullshit doesn't fly.

Because I posted for the headlines, on both examples, because I know reading comprehension and attention to detail is not your strong suit. It's not my fault you're such a bad faith partisan traitor that you didn't look into the incident at all before you popped off and took the fascist propaganda line as gospel on one and are blatantly ignoring the second. Don't blame me that you didn't do your research. Again.

Since you were now caught in your lie (and obviously butt-hurt), you responded with more bullshit about American citizens being arrested and detained when you've already been told that ICE agents arresting and/or detaining American citizens is legal via statute 18 U.S.C. § 111.
It's not my fault you're retarded and don't understand the statute.
Also, I'm not apologizing for anything. I support this and I want this. There is no need for me to be an "ICE Apologist".

Debunked over and over, they have no jurisdiction over US citizens and there was no obstruction or interference in the examples provided of which there can be many but this is your MO. You will deflect and ignore and I'm not wasting my time scouring the internet for blatant examples of fascism for you to dismiss because it goes against your traitorous worldview. Keep proving me right, fascist apologist. You make this super easy.

[CHEEZY17]

No, you absolute fucking retard. What you wrote does not match the video you posted.

Then you didn't watch the video of Bovino and goons marching into Target and beating the kid. Because that proved what I said, and you were wrong just like with the unwarranted murder of a US citizen. Again.

This is the video you posted which shows him being escorted out of the building. It shows no "goons marching in" or "beating" or anything like that. If anything, it confirms that he jumped in front of and possibly punched the agent. I see no "beating". Your lie is exposed.



If you have a video showing what you described then post it you fucking liar.

You haven't debunked jack shit. Typing "uh uh!" does not constitute a debunking.
I have provided the statute for you multiple times that outlines specifically that ICE agents can arrest and detain American citizens that are obstructing or interfering with their operation. Here it is again you fucking retard: 18 U.S.C. § 111. to wit:
"illegal to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers or employees (including ICE agents) while they are engaged in their official duties."

"Yes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents can arrest and detain U.S. citizens if they actively obstruct or interfere with an immigration enforcement operation, such as by blocking agents or physically impeding an arrest, leading to charges like obstructing law enforcement, though they lack authority over citizens for immigration violations alone. While U.S. citizens have rights to observe and film raids, physically interfering, assaulting an officer, or refusing to comply with orders to move can result in detention and charges. "

"Obstruction/Interference: If a citizen physically blocks agents, causes a disturbance, or refuses to get out of the way during an enforcement action, they can be detained or arrested for interfering with law enforcement duties.
Assaulting an Officer: Citizens can face arrest for assaulting ICE officers."

[Geist]

Nope, you made a claim. I called you on it and then you couldn't back it up.

Then you didn't watch the video of Bovino and goons marching into Target and beating the kid. Because that proved what I said, and you were wrong just like with the unwarranted murder of a US citizen. Again.

Since you're retarded, here is the exchange:

You mean the video that doesn't show the whole thing?
Jfc you're retarded.

You responded with this claim that you had video evidence backing you up. That was a lie because when asked to produce said video you could not do it.

I mean the video of the whole incident that showed Bovino and his fascist goons marching into the Target and tackling the kid working for no legitimate reason. Not my fault if you didn't look into it at all and dismissed it without any knowledge while swallowing the fascist propaganda lie you were fed.

Except I did do it, which leads me back to did you literally have a stroke because you're ignoring things literally on the page.

I responded with:

Why didn't you post that video then instead of the one that only shows him getting taken away?
Go ahead and post it.
As usual, your bullshit doesn't fly.

Because I posted for the headlines, on both examples, because I know reading comprehension and attention to detail is not your strong suit. It's not my fault you're such a bad faith partisan traitor that you didn't look into the incident at all before you popped off and took the fascist propaganda line as gospel on one and are blatantly ignoring the second. Don't blame me that you didn't do your research. Again.

Since you were now caught in your lie (and obviously butt-hurt), you responded with more bullshit about American citizens being arrested and detained when you've already been told that ICE agents arresting and/or detaining American citizens is legal via statute 18 U.S.C. § 111.
It's not my fault you're retarded and don't understand the statute.
Also, I'm not apologizing for anything. I support this and I want this. There is no need for me to be an "ICE Apologist".

Debunked over and over, they have no jurisdiction over US citizens and there was no obstruction or interference in the examples provided of which there can be many but this is your MO. You will deflect and ignore and I'm not wasting my time scouring the internet for blatant examples of fascism for you to dismiss because it goes against your traitorous worldview. Keep proving me right, fascist apologist. You make this super easy.

Bruh, the subhuman you're attempting to sway has a single-digit IQ and is statistically likely a child rapist. They aren't worth anything but rope.

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This is the video you posted which shows him being escorted out of the building. It shows no "goons marching in" or "beating" or anything like that.

0:22 - 0:40 is the marching. Beating commences after that. Bad faith partisan traitorous fascist apologist hack.

If anything, it confirms that he jumped in front of and possibly punched the agent. I see no "beating". Your lie is exposed.

Thank you for demonstrating your willingness to swallow the fascist propaganda line whole. But this is also from the guy claiming a murderer was getting run over so he had to step in front of an escaping vehicle to murder its driver, a US citizen, without cause. You're pathetic. The rest of the people watching can see what I said happened and see that those in denial of that reality are being a cuck for the fascists.

If you have a video showing what you described then post it you fucking liar.

Already done, not my fault you operate in bad faith and can't argue your way out of a paper bag.

You haven't debunked jack shit. Typing "uh uh!" does not constitute a debunking.

Literally you. You parroted the lie from the fascists, and when debunked because you didn't bother to look into what you were being told, you now just deny deny deny. Every accusation is a confession from the fascist apologist.

I have provided the statute for you multiple times that outlines specifically that ICE agents can arrest and detain American citizens that are obstructing or interfering with their operation. Here it is again you fucking retard: 18 U.S.C. § 111. to wit:
"illegal to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with federal officers or employees (including ICE agents) while they are engaged in their official duties."

"Yes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents can arrest and detain U.S. citizens if they actively obstruct or interfere with an immigration enforcement operation, such as by blocking agents or physically impeding an arrest, leading to charges like obstructing law enforcement, though they lack authority over citizens for immigration violations alone. While U.S. citizens have rights to observe and film raids, physically interfering, assaulting an officer, or refusing to comply with orders to move can result in detention and charges. "

"Obstruction/Interference: If a citizen physically blocks agents, causes a disturbance, or refuses to get out of the way during an enforcement action, they can be detained or arrested for interfering with law enforcement duties.
Assaulting an Officer: Citizens can face arrest for assaulting ICE officers."

And you have repeatedly been told they have no jurisdiction over US citizens, are not authorized to police actions for citizens, and have yet to acknowledge the reality that there is no obstruction or interference that would validate your fascist propaganda lie/excuse. Driving away from murderous intent by aggressive fascist goons is not obstruction and interference. Recording, observing, heckling, that does not constitute obstruction and interference. Leaving a Taco Bell does not constitute obstruction and interference, another instance of you refusing to acknowledge a US citizen being detained for deportation illegally. At some point you have to get tired of being wrong every single time but feel free to keep proving me right, fascist apologist.

Bruh, the subhuman you're attempting to sway has a single-digit IQ and is statistically likely a child rapist. They aren't worth anything but rope.

Humiliating him is easy, ergo it's done.

[CHEEZY17]

You're just spinning and flailing now, bud.
At 48 seconds he clearly throws himself in front of the agent and possibly even throws a punch. That is obstruction and threatening an agent. The video shows no "beating" after that. What you are seeing is him being detained. Your gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

I don't understand the statute.

Yes, that is clear.

[CHEEZY17]

Bruh, the subhuman you're attempting to sway has a single-digit IQ and is statistically likely a child rapist. They aren't worth anything but rope.

Yet still better and more successful than you.

[Geist]

Bruh, the subhuman you're attempting to sway has a single-digit IQ and is statistically likely a child rapist. They aren't worth anything but rope.

Yet still better and more successful than you.

You're a failure as a human and very likely a pedophile. The collective IQ will increase when you do the right thing and kill yourself

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You're just spinning and flailing now, bud.
At 48 seconds he clearly throws himself in front of the agent and possibly even throws a punch. That is obstruction and threatening an agent. The video shows no "beating" after that. What you are seeing is him being detained. Your gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

Thank you for demonstrating your willingness to swallow the fascist propaganda line whole. But this is also from the guy claiming a murderer was getting run over so he had to step in front of an escaping vehicle to murder its driver, a US citizen, without cause. You're pathetic. The rest of the people watching can see what I said happened and see that those in denial of that reality are being a cuck for the fascists.



Every accusation is a confession from the fascist apologist.



At some point you have to get tired of being wrong every single time but feel free to keep proving me right, fascist apologist.

[CHEEZY17]

You're just spinning and flailing now, bud.
At 48 seconds he clearly throws himself in front of the agent and possibly even throws a punch. That is obstruction and threatening an agent. The video shows no "beating" after that. What you are seeing is him being detained. Your gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

Thank you for demonstrating your willingness to swallow the fascist propaganda line whole. But this is also from the guy claiming a murderer was getting run over so he had to step in front of an escaping vehicle to murder its driver, a US citizen, without cause. You're pathetic. The rest of the people watching can see what I said happened and see that those in denial of that reality are being a cuck for the fascists.



Every accusation is a confession from the fascist apologist.



At some point you have to get tired of being wrong every single time but feel free to keep proving me right, fascist apologist.

It's literally just watching the video, you clown.
Where is the "beating"?

[Antknot]

You're just spinning and flailing now, bud.
At 48 seconds he clearly throws himself in front of the agent and possibly even throws a punch. That is obstruction and threatening an agent. The video shows no "beating" after that. What you are seeing is him being detained. Your gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

Thank you for demonstrating your willingness to swallow the fascist propaganda line whole. But this is also from the guy claiming a murderer was getting run over so he had to step in front of an escaping vehicle to murder its driver, a US citizen, without cause. You're pathetic. The rest of the people watching can see what I said happened and see that those in denial of that reality are being a cuck for the fascists.



Every accusation is a confession from the fascist apologist.



At some point you have to get tired of being wrong every single time but feel free to keep proving me right, fascist apologist.

It's literally just watching the video, you clown.
Where is the "beating"?

A he’s talking about the video he posted of a third-party claiming that somebody had been beaten. A voice in the background whining. But never shows the face of the supposed victim.

[Burn1dwn]

I just want cheezy to post all the videos and examples of well trained Police trying to apprehend "criminals", that end up shooting retarded lesbians that are "obstucting" them. If that is too specific, post videos of cops jumping out of their cars while conducting warrants and putting themselves in front of vehicles that can potentially strike them.

They don't exist because ICE operates with one goal, making libs cry. Regular police are rarely shot while executing warrants against violent criminals because they know how to stay out of harms way and de-escalate. How hard is it to expect ICE agents to be trained the same way while removing people in this coutry illegally?

[CHEEZY17]

I just want cheezy to post all the videos and examples of well trained Police trying to apprehend "criminals", that end up shooting retarded lesbians that are "obstucting" them. If that is too specific, post videos of cops jumping out of their cars while conducting warrants and putting themselves in front of vehicles that can potentially strike them.

They don't exist because ICE operates with one goal, making libs cry. Regular police are rarely shot while executing warrants against violent criminals because they know how to stay out of harms way and de-escalate. How hard is it to expect ICE agents to be trained the same way while removing people in this coutry illegally?

I didn't make the claim, he did and then couldn't back it up.
I will freely admit that I think ICE is a bit ham-handed at times and if this 4th amendment violation bullshit is true I will certainly not agree with that and will have no problem agreeing with those condemning it.

[Burn1dwn]

I just want cheezy to post all the videos and examples of well trained Police trying to apprehend "criminals", that end up shooting retarded lesbians that are "obstucting" them. If that is too specific, post videos of cops jumping out of their cars while conducting warrants and putting themselves in front of vehicles that can potentially strike them.

They don't exist because ICE operates with one goal, making libs cry. Regular police are rarely shot while executing warrants against violent criminals because they know how to stay out of harms way and de-escalate. How hard is it to expect ICE agents to be trained the same way while removing people in this coutry illegally?

I didn't make the claim, he did and then couldn't back it up.
I will freely admit that I think ICE is a bit ham-handed at times and if this 4th amendment violation bullshit is true I will certainly not agree with that and will have no problem agreeing with those condemning it.

I just picked you beacause you are the most vocal on here. But anyone that can't admit there are problems on both sides of the ICE argumentis just being a partisian hack.

[Animal]

I just want cheezy to post all the videos and examples of well trained Police trying to apprehend "criminals", that end up shooting retarded lesbians that are "obstucting" them. If that is too specific, post videos of cops jumping out of their cars while conducting warrants and putting themselves in front of vehicles that can potentially strike them.

They don't exist because ICE operates with one goal, making libs cry. Regular police are rarely shot while executing warrants against violent criminals because they know how to stay out of harms way and de-escalate. How hard is it to expect ICE agents to be trained the same way while removing people in this coutry illegally?

I didn't make the claim, he did and then couldn't back it up.
I will freely admit that I think ICE is a bit ham-handed at times and if this 4th amendment violation bullshit is true I will certainly not agree with that and will have no problem agreeing with those condemning it.

I just picked you beacause you are the most vocal on here. But anyone that can't admit there are problems on both sides of the ICE argumentis just being a partisian hack.

i think that everyone, cheezy included, has been very upfront from the beginning in saying that the ICE agent should not have shot and killed the lesbian. All cheezy has been trying to do is to get dot to at least admit that the lady played a big part in things going wrong.

[CHEEZY17]

I just want cheezy to post all the videos and examples of well trained Police trying to apprehend "criminals", that end up shooting retarded lesbians that are "obstucting" them. If that is too specific, post videos of cops jumping out of their cars while conducting warrants and putting themselves in front of vehicles that can potentially strike them.

They don't exist because ICE operates with one goal, making libs cry. Regular police are rarely shot while executing warrants against violent criminals because they know how to stay out of harms way and de-escalate. How hard is it to expect ICE agents to be trained the same way while removing people in this coutry illegally?

I didn't make the claim, he did and then couldn't back it up.
I will freely admit that I think ICE is a bit ham-handed at times and if this 4th amendment violation bullshit is true I will certainly not agree with that and will have no problem agreeing with those condemning it.

I just picked you beacause you are the most vocal on here. But anyone that can't admit there are problems on both sides of the ICE argumentis just being a partisian hack.

i think that everyone, cheezy included, has been very upfront from the beginning in saying that the ICE agent should not have shot and killed the lesbian. All cheezy has been trying to do is to get dot to at least admit that the lady played a big part in things going wrong.

[CHEEZY17]

You're just spinning and flailing now, bud.
At 48 seconds he clearly throws himself in front of the agent and possibly even throws a punch. That is obstruction and threatening an agent. The video shows no "beating" after that. What you are seeing is him being detained. Your gaslighting doesn't work anymore.

Thank you for demonstrating your willingness to swallow the fascist propaganda line whole. But this is also from the guy claiming a murderer was getting run over so he had to step in front of an escaping vehicle to murder its driver, a US citizen, without cause. You're pathetic. The rest of the people watching can see what I said happened and see that those in denial of that reality are being a cuck for the fascists.



Every accusation is a confession from the fascist apologist.



At some point you have to get tired of being wrong every single time but feel free to keep proving me right, fascist apologist.

It's literally just watching the video, you clown.
Where is the "beating"?

A he’s talking about the video he posted of a third-party claiming that somebody had been beaten. A voice in the background whining. But never shows the face of the supposed victim.

Dodgin' Dot lives in the bluest of blue bubbles.