Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
Nope, just not blinded by trump cuckery. Note that you cannot attempt to dispute anything I said there. You just can't. It was a stupid move from incompetrump and a major win for Iran.
You had chump threatening war crimes his own secDef said no to, Iran called his bluff, committing an open act of war in response to your open act of war, and the result will be chump pussying out. You argued he was being strong, now when he is weak you'll make some excuse about deescalation. It's kinda transparent dude, you'll blindly support and excuse anything he does even when directly contradicting what you said the day before. Iran understands this, they are exploiting it.
You had chump threatening war crimes his own secDef said no to, Iran called his bluff, committing an open act of war in response to your open act of war, and the result will be chump pussying out. You argued he was being strong, now when he is weak you'll make some excuse about deescalation. It's kinda transparent dude, you'll blindly support and excuse anything he does even when directly contradicting what you said the day before. Iran understands this, they are exploiting it.
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
I don't try to dispute your "points" because you have no valid point to make. You are blustering - as you do - with a lot of rhetorical nonsense. There's nothing there. "OOGA BOOGA!!"AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:41 pm Nope, just not blinded by trump cuckery. Note that you cannot attempt to dispute anything I said there. You just can't. It was a stupid move from incompetrump and a major win for Iran.
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
Uh huh. The US wants to retain a military presence in Iraq. Iran wants the US out of Iraq. The Iraqis have just ordered the US out of Iraq. Whose goal has been met? You've replaced actual thought with guzzling trump's cock, you poor fool, that's why you can't answer such a simple question. It's a win for Iran, pretty fucking simple. They'd have chopped the guy's head off themselves for the results they're getting.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:46 pmI don't try to dispute your "points" because you have no valid point to make. You are blustering - as you do - with a lot of rhetorical nonsense. There's nothing there. "OOGA BOOGA!!"AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:41 pm Nope, just not blinded by trump cuckery. Note that you cannot attempt to dispute anything I said there. You just can't. It was a stupid move from incompetrump and a major win for Iran.
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No, Iran lost, all around. They dared us to attack, we did, they lost their favorite son, and then they fired missiles at a safe target so they could pretend they retaliated. In other words, they tucked tail.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:50 pmUh huh. The US wants to retain a military presence in Iraq. Iran wants the US out of Iraq. The Iraqis have just ordered the US out of Iraq. Whose goal has been met? You've replaced actual thought with guzzling trump's cock, you poor fool, that's why you can't answer such a simple question. It's a win for Iran, pretty fucking simple. They'd have chopped the guy's head off themselves for the results they're getting.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:46 pmI don't try to dispute your "points" because you have no valid point to make. You are blustering - as you do - with a lot of rhetorical nonsense. There's nothing there. "OOGA BOOGA!!"AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:41 pm Nope, just not blinded by trump cuckery. Note that you cannot attempt to dispute anything I said there. You just can't. It was a stupid move from incompetrump and a major win for Iran.
Iraq doesn't have the ability to kick us out. We will stay if we like, or leave if we like. If we do want to leave any time soon, we may well use their request as an excuse. That way anything that happens afterwards is their own fault.
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Illegal occupations aren't illegal, up is down black is white
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They have already demonstrated and exercised the ability to kick you out, they got a majority of Iraq'a elected government to vote for it. The sole achievement of all the thousands of US lives and trillions of US dollars spent on the Iraq war has been to hand control to Iran. I doubt the US will try to stay as a hostile occupying power, chump did after all promise to pull out years ago and can take the excuse of his epic fuckup to run away. The alternative is a major, major redeployment of boots on the ground. If the US does stay it is an enemy of the people of the country it is occupying and it will suffer the results of that, which will be the same as they always are. Vietnam is clearly a lesson y'all just need to keep learning. Enjoy.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:55 pmNo, Iran lost, all around. They dared us to attack, we did, they lost their favorite son, and then they fired missiles at a safe target so they could pretend they retaliated. In other words, they tucked tail.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:50 pmUh huh. The US wants to retain a military presence in Iraq. Iran wants the US out of Iraq. The Iraqis have just ordered the US out of Iraq. Whose goal has been met? You've replaced actual thought with guzzling trump's cock, you poor fool, that's why you can't answer such a simple question. It's a win for Iran, pretty fucking simple. They'd have chopped the guy's head off themselves for the results they're getting.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:46 pmI don't try to dispute your "points" because you have no valid point to make. You are blustering - as you do - with a lot of rhetorical nonsense. There's nothing there. "OOGA BOOGA!!"AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:41 pm Nope, just not blinded by trump cuckery. Note that you cannot attempt to dispute anything I said there. You just can't. It was a stupid move from incompetrump and a major win for Iran.
Iraq doesn't have the ability to kick us out. We will stay if we like, or leave if we like. If we do want to leave any time soon, we may well use their request as an excuse. That way anything that happens afterwards is their own fault.
(I'm not taking you seriously at this point. I think you're just trying to make traffic or something.)
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
GOP Sen. Mike Lee furious after an 'insulting' Senate briefing on Trump's Iran strike: 'The worst briefing ... on a military issue I've seen in 9 years'
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-mik ... ike-2020-1
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Wow. Imagine that. A senator speaking out, taking a position contrary to the leader of his party. And he won’t be primaried as a result.
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
Lindsay Graham already is rebuking him and Rand Paul for not toeing the party line.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:43 am Wow. Imagine that. A senator speaking out, taking a position contrary to the leader of his party. And he won’t be primaried as a result.
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Of course. Everyone knows what happened during the golf game Nancy had with Trump when he became a whimpering lap dog for him since.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:57 amLindsay Graham already is rebuking him and Rand Paul for not toeing the party line.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:43 am Wow. Imagine that. A senator speaking out, taking a position contrary to the leader of his party. And he won’t be primaried as a result.
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Right. Lindsay Graham is just like Chuck Schumer.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:57 amLindsay Graham already is rebuking him and Rand Paul for not toeing the party line.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:43 am Wow. Imagine that. A senator speaking out, taking a position contrary to the leader of his party. And he won’t be primaried as a result.
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
Ignore everything about Francis, good puppy. That must be some powerful Kompromat when following the Constitution is "empowering the enemy".Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:13 amRight. Lindsay Graham is just like Chuck Schumer.Stapes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:57 amLindsay Graham already is rebuking him and Rand Paul for not toeing the party line.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:43 am Wow. Imagine that. A senator speaking out, taking a position contrary to the leader of his party. And he won’t be primaried as a result.
And to suggest this drug induced wheezing speech is equatable to Reagan's "Tear down this wall" speech is so goddamn far fetched dragging on Trumps nutsack insane, its pathetic. He should go hide in shame the rest of his life.
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
This is comforting.
On the day U.S. forces killed Soleimani, they targeted a senior Iranian official in Yemen
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html
On the day U.S. forces killed Soleimani, they targeted a senior Iranian official in Yemen
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
Are you in denial that the Persians roadside bombs were killing our Soldiers?
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
General Staff of Iran's Armed Forces: has issued a statement saying that the Ukranian plane was "unintentionally" hit by a military site & based on "human error". The statement has offered "apology" to the families of victims & foreign nationals.
Further more; While the plane was turning around, it went toward a sensitive military center of IRGC and it was at an altitude & in the shape of a hostile aircraft, in which the aircraft was inadvertently hit based on human error.
Iran's Armed Forces says "human error" happened while the sensitivity in Iranian air defense system had increased due to the threats of US president & officials & increased number of American aircraft around the country & receiving some reports on targets approaching strategic centers .Several targets were observed in some [Iranian] radars, which incited further sensitivity at the Air Defense units.
Fundamental reforms in the operational processes at the Armed Forces" will take place to "make it impossible to repeat such errors", saying the people who made the error will be introduced to Judicial Organization of Armed Forces to be dealt with legally.
The Turning Plane Claim (Correction): Under such sensitive and critical circumstances, the Ukrainian airline’s Flight PS752 took off from Imam Khomeini Airport, and when turning around (No explanation given as to WHY or IF the plane was turning around), it approached a sensitive military site of the IRGC, taking the shape and altitude of a hostile target. In such conditions, due to human error and in an unintentional move, the airplane was hit [by the Air Defence], which caused the martyrdom of a number of our compatriots and the deaths of several foreign nationals.
The relevant authorities at the IRGC were also instructed to appear on state TV and give detailed explanation of the incident as soon as possible.
Official Statement from The General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces
IRGC Linked - Tasmin News
My condolences to the victims and the victims families, I personally was hoping this wasn't true. I hope that victims compensation will be a generous one for the pain that's been caused.
Further more; While the plane was turning around, it went toward a sensitive military center of IRGC and it was at an altitude & in the shape of a hostile aircraft, in which the aircraft was inadvertently hit based on human error.
Iran's Armed Forces says "human error" happened while the sensitivity in Iranian air defense system had increased due to the threats of US president & officials & increased number of American aircraft around the country & receiving some reports on targets approaching strategic centers .Several targets were observed in some [Iranian] radars, which incited further sensitivity at the Air Defense units.
Fundamental reforms in the operational processes at the Armed Forces" will take place to "make it impossible to repeat such errors", saying the people who made the error will be introduced to Judicial Organization of Armed Forces to be dealt with legally.
The Turning Plane Claim (Correction): Under such sensitive and critical circumstances, the Ukrainian airline’s Flight PS752 took off from Imam Khomeini Airport, and when turning around (No explanation given as to WHY or IF the plane was turning around), it approached a sensitive military site of the IRGC, taking the shape and altitude of a hostile target. In such conditions, due to human error and in an unintentional move, the airplane was hit [by the Air Defence], which caused the martyrdom of a number of our compatriots and the deaths of several foreign nationals.
The relevant authorities at the IRGC were also instructed to appear on state TV and give detailed explanation of the incident as soon as possible.
Official Statement from The General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces
IRGC Linked - Tasmin News
My condolences to the victims and the victims families, I personally was hoping this wasn't true. I hope that victims compensation will be a generous one for the pain that's been caused.
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
We shiot down one of theirs. They shoot down one of theirs.
Did the US lie aboot it at the onset? Would that make you feel better if we did?
Did the US lie aboot it at the onset? Would that make you feel better if we did?
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Are you Saturday drunk Chuck? You ain't making sense.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:07 pm We shiot down one of theirs. They shoot down one of theirs.
Did the US lie aboot it at the onset? Would that make you feel better if we did?
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Alcohol would make more sense. No one can have that many strokes and live. Only so many blood vesselsBigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:10 pmHe could be having a stroke.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:15 pmAre you Saturday drunk Chuck? You ain't making sense.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:07 pm We shiot down one of theirs. They shoot down one of theirs.
Did the US lie aboot it at the onset? Would that make you feel better if we did?
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Remember, you can't drink all day unless you start early.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:22 pmAlcohol would make more sense. No one can have that many strokes and live. Only so many blood vesselsBigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:10 pmHe could be having a stroke.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:15 pmAre you Saturday drunk Chuck? You ain't making sense.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:07 pm We shiot down one of theirs. They shoot down one of theirs.
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We shot down a Persian airliner. So did they. Did the pentagon claim it was a Boeing boo-boo before the troof came out? Is that so complicated?
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We shot down a Persian airliner.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:28 am We shot down a Persian airliner. So did they. Did the pentagon claim it was a Boeing boo-boo before the troof came out? Is that so complicated?
Irrelevant, that was 30 years ago.
Did the pentagon claim it was a Boeing boo-boo before the troof came out?
Again, no one said they did.
Is that so complicated?
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Re: Pompeo: Iranians and Iraqis should view this US action as "giving them their freedom"
The US still claims it was self defense and gave the commander who took the shot a medal.
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Don't bother the dementia patient with factsAnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:28 pm The US still claims it was self defense and gave the commander who took the shot a medal.
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No, the US government blamed others instead:Charliesheen wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:28 am We shot down a Persian airliner. So did they. Did the pentagon claim it was a Boeing boo-boo before the troof came out? Is that so complicated?
For example, on July 3, at the first Pentagon press conference on the incident, Adm. William Crowe, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that the Iranian plane had been flying at 9,000 feet and descending at a “high speed” of 450 knots, “headed directly” for the Vincennes. In fact, however, the Aug. 19 report—written by Rear Adm. William Fogarty of U.S. Central Command—concluded (from computer tapes found inside the ship’s combat information center) that the plane was “ascending through 12,000 feet” at the much slower speed of 380 knots. “At no time” did the Airbus “actually descend in altitude,” the report stated.
When I pointed out this discrepancy at the press conference where the report was handed out, Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci waved me away and said, “It’s really questionable whether a different reading would have affected the judgment” to shoot down the plane. (I still find this astonishing.)
There were other equally disturbing discrepancies between Crowe’s July 3 press conference (which struck me as suspicious even at the time) and Fogarty’s Aug. 19 report. Crowe had said the plane was flying “outside the prescribed commercial air route”; the report said it was flying “within the established air route.” Crowe had said the plane’s transponder was “squawking” a code over the “Mode 2” military channel; the report stated that it was squawking over the “Mode 3” civilian channel. Crowe had said the Vincennes issued several warnings; the report confirmed this, but noted, “Due to heavy pilot workload during take-off and climb-out, and the requirement to communicate with” two air traffic control centers, the pilot “probably was not monitoring” the international air-distress channel.
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