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BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:20 pm

Stapes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:12 pm 8 months before a presidential election. If this goes sideways you will here nothing but how trump is responsible for gutting the CDC, HHS, and the WHO pandemic response teams that were in place from Obama. Trump of course will never take the blame and put Pence under the bus. Perfect.

Trump has not cut anything from the CDC.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:15 pm Democrats hoping people die.

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:15 pm Democrats hoping people die.

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:26 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:01 pm The Trump administration recently requested $2.5 billion in emergency funds to prepare the U.S. for a possible widespread outbreak of coronavirus. Critics, though, are pointing out that money might not be necessary if the administration hadn’t spent the past two years largely dismantling government units that were designed to protect against pandemics.


The cuts started in 2018, as the White House focused on eliminating funding to Obama-era disease security programs. In March of that year, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, whose job it was to lead the U.S. response in the event of a pandemic, abruptly left the administration and his global health security team was disbanded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... -abruptly/

That same year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was forced to slash its efforts to prevent global disease outbreak by 80% as its funding for the program began to run out. The agency, at the time, opted to focus on 10 priority countries and scale back in others, including China.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... -outbreak/

Also cut was the Complex Crises Fund, a $30 million emergency response pool that was at the secretary of state’s disposal to deploy disease experts and others in the event of a crisis. (The fund was created by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/05/09/eb ... ng-for-it/

Overall in 2018, Trump called for $15 billion in reduced health spending that had previously been approved, as he looked at increasing budget deficits, cutting the global disease-fighting budgets of the CDC, National Security Council (NSC), Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and Health and Human Services (HHS) in the process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... story.html

The effects of those cuts are being felt today. While the CDC announced plans to test people with flu-like symptoms for COVID-19, those have been delayed and only three of the country’s 100 public-health labs have been able to test for coronavirus. The administration’s request for additional funding came roughly two weeks after officials said HHS was almost out of funding for its response to the virus.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/2 ... rus-116529

https://fortune.com/2020/02/26/coronavi ... -us-trump/

As I said before, much ado about nothing. And all Trump can do is propose budget cuts. He can't actually make them.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:20 am

Wut wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.

That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.

Trump now can claim 9 of the 10 largest single day point drops in DOW history.

So much 'winning'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nt_changes

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:56 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:20 am

Wut wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.

That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.

Trump now can claim 9 of the 10 largest single day point drops in DOW history.

So much 'winning'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nt_changes

i assume, to make it look better in the world of political spin, that those 9 out of 10 days are based on DJIA "points" not "percentage". If you use the term "point" is a much easier sell to the porch pirates that have never paid a trade commission in their lives.

BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:04 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:00 pm

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:56 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:20 am

Wut wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am

WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.

That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.

Trump now can claim 9 of the 10 largest single day point drops in DOW history.

So much 'winning'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nt_changes

i assume, to make it look better in the world of political spin, that those 9 out of 10 days are based on DJIA "points" not "percentage". If you use the term "point" is a much easier sell to the porch pirates that have never paid a trade commission in their lives.

You've paid trade commissions AND write checks? Again, duly impressed.

Spoken like someone who doesn't invest in the stock market and doesn't pay taxes.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:00 pm
You've paid trade commissions AND write checks? Again, duly impressed.

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:12 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:00 pm
You've paid trade commissions AND write checks? Again, duly impressed.

the thing i really can't understand is how you can be so smart and post such stupid bullshit when it comes to politics.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:16 pm It's unlikely the virus does much in the US this year (unless it can live through the heat of summer), it'll be next year that it becomes an issue. If this is the flu that is common next year it'll be a very big deal.

Japan is talking about shutting down all schools for almost a month. Seems pretty early in the process to take such action.

The Swiss are supposedly cancelling any event with more than 1,000 expected attendees.

Goldman Sachs says no profit growth in 2020. Starbucks says 85% of their stores are open in China, but are people going to them when open? The easiest way to avoid the flu or a cold is to avoid restaurants.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:16 pm It's unlikely the virus does much in the US this year (unless it can live through the heat of summer), it'll be next year that it becomes an issue. If this is the flu that is common next year it'll be a very big deal.

Japan is talking about shutting down all schools for almost a month. Seems pretty early in the process to take such action.

The Swiss are supposedly cancelling any event with more than 1,000 expected attendees.

Goldman Sachs says no profit growth in 2020. Starbucks says 85% of their stores are open in China, but are people going to them when open? The easiest way to avoid the flu or a cold is to avoid restaurants.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:16 pm It's unlikely the virus does much in the US this year (unless it can live through the heat of summer), it'll be next year that it becomes an issue. If this is the flu that is common next year it'll be a very big deal.

Japan is talking about shutting down all schools for almost a month. Seems pretty early in the process to take such action.

The Swiss are supposedly cancelling any event with more than 1,000 expected attendees.

Goldman Sachs says no profit growth in 2020. Starbucks says 85% of their stores are open in China, but are people going to them when open? The easiest way to avoid the flu or a cold is to avoid restaurants.

Flumper wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:22 pm

beagleboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:16 pm It's unlikely the virus does much in the US this year (unless it can live through the heat of summer), it'll be next year that it becomes an issue. If this is the flu that is common next year it'll be a very big deal.

Japan is talking about shutting down all schools for almost a month. Seems pretty early in the process to take such action.

The Swiss are supposedly cancelling any event with more than 1,000 expected attendees.

Goldman Sachs says no profit growth in 2020. Starbucks says 85% of their stores are open in China, but are people going to them when open? The easiest way to avoid the flu or a cold is to avoid restaurants.

First, how does this flu virus (corona) sit dormant from late spring until next winter and then attack again? Where does it go to wait?

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:31 pm
And I wish people wouldn't assume this coronavirus will behave just like influenza. It's too early to tell. Hope so.

beagleboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:59 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:31 pm
And I wish people wouldn't assume this coronavirus will behave just like influenza. It's too early to tell. Hope so.

There are other viruses within this family and they for the most part act in the same way. When a virus transmit primarily through the air, it's far harder in the summer than the winter.
"But he says COVID-19 seems more akin to the seasonal cold. And up to a third of common colds are caused by coronaviruses.
"We've seen, basically, explosive spread inside China of person-to-person transmission, so — in that sense — it really is behaving like a common-cold causing coronavirus," says Adalja.
For that reason, he says, "I do think seasonality will play a role. As this outbreak unfolds and we approach spring and summer, I do think we will see some tapering off of cases.""

CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:08 pm How about we all just be thoughtful humans and, I don't know, wash our hands several times a day, stay inside if you're sniffling, hacking or sneezing and use hand sanitizer once in awhile?