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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:12 pm
So it's no different than insurance now or before ACA except before they could deny coverage to sick. And you writing checks doesn't impress me.
its different than before ACA in that I had never seen an insurance policy before that straight up said that it didn't cover anything. That was mind blowing.

And, this whole "they can deny coverage to the sick" is another stupid point these brainless fucks tout on tv and everyone repeats as if they know something. The whole concept of "pre-existing conditions" is a farce. Yeah, insurance companies can kick you off if you have pre-existing conditions. But they can also keep you. And raise your rates. A LOT. If they are required to insure someone that has been diagnosed with a long term super expensive condition, then they will do it. And raise their rate to god knows what until they walk away. They do that now without pre-existing conditions. They do that now if they determine that you go to the hospital too much. That is the dumbest fucking topic I have ever heard discussed out loud. And the only point that "writing checks" has to do with this is that you tend to become a bit more informed if you are fixing to deduct large sums of cash out of your bank account.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:25 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:11 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:08 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:05 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:02 pm

My car insurance you stupid fuck
Why are you restorting to name calling for? I just asked a question, since I'm not really that familiar with what it's like to not have health insurance.

OK, here's another question then. What if you are crossing the street and get run over by a hit and run and they never catch the person that did it? Now you require 100k in major surgery due to numerous broken bones and other miscellaneous injuries.

Who pays for it then?
What if you choke to death on a giant black cock? Does your wife just invite all the gym rats to live in your house?
:lol: Why are you so upset that I'm asking you some simple questions about not being insured, since I've always had health insurance? Is it because you are ashamed that you can brag about owning a camaro and a truck and live in the woods in PA, yet still be so cheap you can't even pay for your own health insurance and don't mind being a burden on society?

Is that not true? Think about it. Just like your politics you're always looking for "free stuff", why not be man enough to pay your own way bro? It's a serious question.
I'm not here to answer your stupid question. Go google your made up fantasy bullshit.
:lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, talk about being "in denial". I wish I had the gift to be able to do that. Life would have been much easier for me.
Whatever you say mental patient
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:27 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:25 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:11 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:08 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:05 pm
Why are you restorting to name calling for? I just asked a question, since I'm not really that familiar with what it's like to not have health insurance.

OK, here's another question then. What if you are crossing the street and get run over by a hit and run and they never catch the person that did it? Now you require 100k in major surgery due to numerous broken bones and other miscellaneous injuries.

Who pays for it then?
What if you choke to death on a giant black cock? Does your wife just invite all the gym rats to live in your house?
:lol: Why are you so upset that I'm asking you some simple questions about not being insured, since I've always had health insurance? Is it because you are ashamed that you can brag about owning a camaro and a truck and live in the woods in PA, yet still be so cheap you can't even pay for your own health insurance and don't mind being a burden on society?

Is that not true? Think about it. Just like your politics you're always looking for "free stuff", why not be man enough to pay your own way bro? It's a serious question.
I'm not here to answer your stupid question. Go google your made up fantasy bullshit.
:lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, talk about being "in denial". I wish I had the gift to be able to do that. Life would have been much easier for me.
Whatever you say mental patient
You damn well know that that the people paying for health insurance get stuck paying your bill under the second scenario I gave you CQ. Why do you think people like you that don't pay health insurance piss the people off that do? I'll bet my rates would be much lower if I didn't have to fund weasels like you. You're welcome.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:41 pm NJ is lush and green, unlike drab Texas, for example. I don't know about all of Texas but I've been to Houston and Austin and wasn't impressed. That's why NJ & not Texas is known as the garden state.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Texas is terribly drab.

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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Smok44 wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:58 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:54 pm
Smok44 wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:48 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:06 pm
Wut wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:00 pm I'm going to Jersey for a few days on Saturday, will I get Corona-Herpes by simply breathing the air?
Youre leaving Bermuda to head to that shithole in February? Da fuq is wrong with you?

Stay out of the northwestern part of NJ and you'll be ok. Where in NJ are you headed to?
:questionmarks:
There's a lot of dumbfuckery running around in that part
Well, I've got to admit that in certain parts, it'd be tough to tell whether you were in NW NJ or Kentucky/West Virginia ;)
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:27 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:25 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:11 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:08 pm

What if you choke to death on a giant black cock? Does your wife just invite all the gym rats to live in your house?
:lol: Why are you so upset that I'm asking you some simple questions about not being insured, since I've always had health insurance? Is it because you are ashamed that you can brag about owning a camaro and a truck and live in the woods in PA, yet still be so cheap you can't even pay for your own health insurance and don't mind being a burden on society?

Is that not true? Think about it. Just like your politics you're always looking for "free stuff", why not be man enough to pay your own way bro? It's a serious question.
I'm not here to answer your stupid question. Go google your made up fantasy bullshit.
:lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, talk about being "in denial". I wish I had the gift to be able to do that. Life would have been much easier for me.
Whatever you say mental patient
You damn well know that that the people paying for health insurance get stuck paying your bill under the second scenario I gave you CQ. Why do you think people like you that don't pay health insurance piss the people off that do? I'll bet my rates would be much lower if I didn't have to fund weasels like you. You're welcome.
Nobody pays my bills but me. You're just making shit up like the crazy person you are.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:30 pm
Smok44 wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:58 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:54 pm
Smok44 wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:48 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:06 pm
Wut wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:00 pm I'm going to Jersey for a few days on Saturday, will I get Corona-Herpes by simply breathing the air?
Youre leaving Bermuda to head to that shithole in February? Da fuq is wrong with you?

Stay out of the northwestern part of NJ and you'll be ok. Where in NJ are you headed to?
:questionmarks:
There's a lot of dumbfuckery running around in that part
Well, I've got to admit that in certain parts, it'd be tough to tell whether you were in NW NJ or Kentucky/West Virginia ;)
Like Hopatcong and West Milford, or further out northwest? The same thing could be said about central and south jersey though. If you really do your research and study the demographics of 90% of Morris County, where I live, you'll find that people there are well-educated, there is an extremely low crime rate, and there are beautiful homes and places to visit & see. Do you not agree?
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:31 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:27 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:25 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:11 pm
:lol: Why are you so upset that I'm asking you some simple questions about not being insured, since I've always had health insurance? Is it because you are ashamed that you can brag about owning a camaro and a truck and live in the woods in PA, yet still be so cheap you can't even pay for your own health insurance and don't mind being a burden on society?

Is that not true? Think about it. Just like your politics you're always looking for "free stuff", why not be man enough to pay your own way bro? It's a serious question.
I'm not here to answer your stupid question. Go google your made up fantasy bullshit.
:lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, talk about being "in denial". I wish I had the gift to be able to do that. Life would have been much easier for me.
Whatever you say mental patient
You damn well know that that the people paying for health insurance get stuck paying your bill under the second scenario I gave you CQ. Why do you think people like you that don't pay health insurance piss the people off that do? I'll bet my rates would be much lower if I didn't have to fund weasels like you. You're welcome.
Nobody pays my bills but me. You're just making shit up like the crazy person you are.
So far. But if you get a 6 figure medical bill I doubt you'll be able to pay for it.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:35 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:31 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:27 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:25 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 pm

I'm not here to answer your stupid question. Go google your made up fantasy bullshit.
:lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, talk about being "in denial". I wish I had the gift to be able to do that. Life would have been much easier for me.
Whatever you say mental patient
You damn well know that that the people paying for health insurance get stuck paying your bill under the second scenario I gave you CQ. Why do you think people like you that don't pay health insurance piss the people off that do? I'll bet my rates would be much lower if I didn't have to fund weasels like you. You're welcome.
Nobody pays my bills but me. You're just making shit up like the crazy person you are.
So far. But if you get a 6 figure medical bill I doubt you'll be able to pay for it.
So you're pretty happy I will voting for the man that will change that right?
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Stapes wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:04 pm
Wut wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:00 pm I'm going to Jersey for a few days on Saturday, will I get Corona-Herpes by simply breathing the air?
Where abouts in New Jersey is she? That could give a better idea. New Jersey in the winter is pretty depressing to me. Summer time at the Jersey shore I would put up against any other tourist destination.
Princeton, or nearby.

And I'll take Bermuda beaches over the Jersey shore
wut?
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:40 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:35 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:31 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:27 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:25 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, talk about being "in denial". I wish I had the gift to be able to do that. Life would have been much easier for me.
Whatever you say mental patient
You damn well know that that the people paying for health insurance get stuck paying your bill under the second scenario I gave you CQ. Why do you think people like you that don't pay health insurance piss the people off that do? I'll bet my rates would be much lower if I didn't have to fund weasels like you. You're welcome.
Nobody pays my bills but me. You're just making shit up like the crazy person you are.
So far. But if you get a 6 figure medical bill I doubt you'll be able to pay for it.
So you're pretty happy I will voting for the man that will change that right?
I'm all for lowering healthcare costs, for my wife and I we pay 1200 a month, which is more than our home utilities and taxes. I'm also for income equality, not that it would help me. I think minimum wage should be at least $15 an hour.

However, Bernie just goes to the extreme to help out millennials and generation y with a bunch of free stuff that goes over the top, like pardoning student loans. completely free college education, and daycare for children. It seems to me like he wants to milk even the middle class like me out of what they managed to save and for nothing in return. He's too far to the extreme, I'm more of a moderate, and definitely not a socialist.

I'm fiscally a conservative and socially liberal like a lot of people on this site claim to be. I don't think Trump is the greatest by any means, but I think I would vote for Trump over Sanders. Maybe if Warren or Bloomberg, even Klobuchar win the nomination I could possibly vote for one of them over Trump.
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I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
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BigRedRetard wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:04 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
It is a good time to buy. It would not be bad idea to increase 401 contributions as well if possible.
Just my gut feeling, Let it slide down to around 25,000 over the next few weeks and then buy in heavily as the Spring weather puts this virus to yesterday's headlines. I'll be happy to include my address for the normal 10% commission fee.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
wut?
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Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
Trump now can claim 9 of the 10 largest single day point drops in DOW history.

So much 'winning'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nt_changes
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BigRedRetard wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:22 am
CaptQuint wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:20 am
Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
Trump now can claim 9 of the 10 largest single day point drops in DOW history.

So much 'winning'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nt_changes
I guess he must have created this virus.
No, the deep state released coronavirus to hurt the stock market to make TRUMP look bad.
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Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
This is predicted to be the worst pandemic since the Spanish Flu in 1918 that killed many millions, more casualties than are soldiers that died in World War 1 and World War 2 combined. However, this is my point Wuh. I expected the market to drop like it did and I'm not saying it won't go even lower.

But, people need to realize that this virus has already proven to have only a 2.5% mortality rate and that like 90% of the people that died from it were basically old and in ill health. The young and our children have hardly been affected and 80% of the people that catch this virus end up with little or no symptoms.

Now, silly Biker wants to call me Hitler for merely pointing out the facts and no I'm not saying these people should die but this is the reality and the reality is that if people that are collecting social security die, or people that are being assisted by the government for their healthcare because they are ill die, it's only going to help the economy.

Let the virus run its course. The last thing we should do is go into a panic about it.
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Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
Sorry, I don't know what that means. I feel I was clear in my description. Let me guess, you are anxiously awaiting your face masks from Amazon? Sell everything right now before it's too late, said nobody. I expect my 10%, BTW
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:36 am
Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
Sorry, I don't know what that means. I feel I was clear in my description. Let me guess, you are anxiously awaiting your face masks from Amazon? Sell everything right now before it's too late, said nobody. I expect my 10%, BTW
Well said WTC. Spoken like a true American. 8-)
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A Miami man who flew to China worried he might have coronavirus. He may owe thousands.

After returning to Miami last month from a work trip in China, Osmel Martinez Azcue found himself in a frightening position: he was developing flu-like symptoms, just as coronavirus was ravaging the country he had visited.


Under normal circumstances, Azcue said he would have gone to CVS for over-the-counter medicine and fought the flu on his own, but this time was different. As health officials stressed preparedness and vigilance for the respiratory illness, Azcue felt it was his responsibility to his family and his community to get tested for novel coronavirus, known as COVID-19.

He went to Jackson Memorial Hospital, where he said he was placed in a closed-off room. Nurses in protective white suits sprayed some kind of disinfectant smoke under the door before entering, Azcue said. Then hospital staff members told him he’d need a CT scan to screen for coronavirus, but Azcue said he asked for a flu test first.

“This will be out of my pocket,” Azcue, who has a very limited insurance plan, recalled saying. “Let’s start with the blood test, and if I test positive, just discharge me.”


Fortunately, that’s exactly what happened. He had the flu, not the deadly virus that has infected tens of thousands of people, mostly in China, and killed at least 2,239 as of Friday’s update by the World Health Organization.




But two weeks later, Azcue got unwelcome news in the form of a notice from his insurance company about a claim for $3,270.

In 2018, President Donald Trump’s administration rolled back Affordable Care Act regulations and allowed so-called “junk plans” in the market. Consumers mistakenly assume that the plans with lower monthly costs will be better than no insurance at all in case of a medical catastrophe, but often the plans aren’t very different from going without insurance altogether.

Hospital officials at Jackson told the Miami Herald that, based on his insurance, Azcue would only be responsible for $1,400 of that bill, but Azcue said he heard from his insurer that he would also have to provide additional documentation: three years of medical records to prove that the flu he got didn’t relate to a preexisting condition.


While Azcue’s experience shows the potential cost of testing for a disease that epidemiologists fear may develop into a public health crisis in the U.S., one insurance expert sees the episode as a cautionary tale about the potential risks associated with deregulation in the insurance market.

“When someone has flu-like symptoms, you want them to to seek medical care,” said Sabrina Corlette, a Georgetown University professor and co-director of the Center on Health Insurance Reforms. “If they have one of these junk plans and they know they might be on the hook for more than they can afford to seek that care, a lot of them just won’t, and that is a public health concern.”

Azcue said he earns about $55,000 a year working for a medical device company that does not offer health insurance, but his insurance plan wasn’t always so narrow. Last year, Azcue said he was covered under an Affordable Care Act-compliant plan that cost him about $278 in monthly premiums.


Those premiums shot up to $400 a month when his full year salary kicked in, so he canceled his plan in November, he said. Azcue said he now pays $180 per month for the limited plan from National General Insurance.

The limited plan’s requirement to provide three years of medical records before coverage kicks in, Corlette said, is not uncommon. The professor said she’s seen it come up for conditions like cancers that were never diagnosed but might have been hinted at in doctors’ visits from years past.

“That’s the critical difference between [Affordable Care Act] plans and junk plans,” she said. “[Junk plans] will not cover preexisting conditions.”


A spokesperson for National General Insurance did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Jackson Health officials say that there are more bills for Azcue on the way, but it’s unclear what those will total, as they are going to be issued by the University of Miami Health System, or UHealth, for treatment provided by their staff physicians who work at Jackson.

Azcue said his experience underscores how the costs of healthcare in the U.S. could interfere with preventing public health crises.

“How can they expect normal citizens to contribute to eliminating the potential risk of person-to-person spread if hospitals are waiting to charge us $3,270 for a simple blood test and a nasal swab?” he said.

Plans that comply with the Affordable Care Act often have high deductibles, too, Corlette said, but are likely to provide more reimbursement than the more restricted plans. Plus, she added, those ACA plans are required to cover flu shots and other preventative care.

“The idea that [the insurer] would have to comb through three years of his records just to determine if the flu was a preexisting condition is just crazy,” Corlette said. “But that’s how most of these plans operate.”

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:02 pm "Your questions on the novel coronavirus answered"

I thought the video embedded in this CNN article was highly informative, with Sanjay Gupta and Anderson Cooper. I'm not a big fan of Anderson but I think Sanjay is a sharp tack.

They mentioned that since this virus is so new they're not sure it will behave like the flu and significantly diminish when the weather gets warmer, it might have no effect.

One thing they recommended was that you have a 14 day food supply at home in case a quarantine is ordered, although they didn't say anything about face masks.

I read in a different article that the n95 respirator is the most effective and it's readily available on Amazon at a reasonable price. Apparently that has the fine filtration necessary to eliminate the virus from passing unlike the standard face masks being sold. The only problem is it tends to be harder to pull air through it and is basically more uncircumcized.

Anyway, if you have 14 minutes to listen to it, I recommend it, otherwise the text article is included.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/health/c ... index.html
"I read in a different article that the n95 respirator is the most effective and it's readily available on Amazon at a reasonable price. Apparently that has the fine filtration necessary to eliminate the virus from passing unlike the standard
face masks being sold. The only problem is it tends to be harder to pull air through it and is basically more uncircumcized."

Oh, here is the NPR article I mentioned about masks.

I think it's worth a read.

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:02 pm "Your questions on the novel coronavirus answered"

I thought the video embedded in this CNN article was highly informative, with Sanjay Gupta and Anderson Cooper. I'm not a big fan of Anderson but I think Sanjay is a sharp tack.

They mentioned that since this virus is so new they're not sure it will behave like the flu and significantly diminish when the weather gets warmer, it might have no effect.

One thing they recommended was that you have a 14 day food supply at home in case a quarantine is ordered, although they didn't say anything about face masks.

I read in a different article that the n95 respirator is the most effective and it's readily available on Amazon at a reasonable price. Apparently that has the fine filtration necessary to eliminate the virus from passing unlike the standard face masks being sold. The only problem is it tends to be harder to pull air through it and is basically more uncircumcized.

Anyway, if you have 14 minutes to listen to it, I recommend it, otherwise the text article is included.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/health/c ... index.html
"I read in a different article that the n95 respirator is the most effective and it's readily available on Amazon at a reasonable price. Apparently that has the fine filtration necessary to eliminate the virus from passing unlike the standard
face masks being sold. The only problem is it tends to be harder to pull air through it and is basically more uncircumcized."

Oh, here is the NPR article I mentioned about masks.

I think it's worth a read.

Edit: Holy shit, they somehow turned the link to the article into an image with an audio button. OK, enjoy listening to it. LOL

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CaptQuint wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:20 am
Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
Trump now can claim 9 of the 10 largest single day point drops in DOW history.

So much 'winning'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nt_changes
Yeah, really deadly. 3 %. "Whatever" day- 1987- 600 point drop= 24% drop in one day. Please save us your histronics.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:36 am
Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
Sorry, I don't know what that means. I feel I was clear in my description. Let me guess, you are anxiously awaiting your face masks from Amazon? Sell everything right now before it's too late, said nobody. I expect my 10%, BTW
Sorry, the point should be easily understood.

I put your 10% out in the backyard, get out there and get it.
wut?
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:12 am
CaptQuint wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:20 am
Wut wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:18 am
WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:00 am I will say there is one major positive about this whole Corona virus. This week, it shaved near 3,000 off the stock market. Great news. Under Trump's economic policies, the economy has been super heated. Too heated. Corrections were coming. When your previous Admin touted their economic success on the rubble of the 2008 recession and massive Public sector jobs and Trump was within 5,000 Dow points of doubling it in just over 3 years, That's way too sizzling hot. Bad things can happen.
That's some serious bullshit spin there; yay! The market dropped 3,000 points! says nobody.
Trump now can claim 9 of the 10 largest single day point drops in DOW history.

So much 'winning'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... nt_changes
Yeah, really deadly. 3 %. "Whatever" day- 1987- 600 point drop= 24% drop in one day. Please save us you histronics.
Thanks for pointing out the true facts WTC.
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