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Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:28 pm
by rule34

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm
by Animal
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:00 pm
by CaptQuint

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:17 pm
by CaptQuint
Well WTC's predictions have gone so well in the past :lol:



WTC you're a fucking jinx

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:18 pm
by rule34
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
And no chance in hell that covid 19 will stay in the headlines for more than a week.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:20 pm
by Reservoir Dog
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
The Europeans and the Eastern world will gobble these things up.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:22 pm
by CaptQuint
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Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:25 pm
by CaptQuint
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Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:27 pm
by Animal
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
I would. as long as i get the same power, run time, etc. I would at least listen to what they had to say. I could give a little on the upfront cost, if the resale value covered it.

In other words, if I can buy a 310 now for $85,000 and sell it in 8 years for $15,000. Then I would consider this one at $100,000 if I could sell it in 8 years for $30,000.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:28 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:20 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
The Europeans and the Eastern world will gobble these things up.
The work I've done and I know Animal does involves work out in the boondocks. No way you are shutting down a job site for any amount of time, putting it on a trailer and hauling it 40 miles to find a charging station when a full diesel tank will run all day. Maybe in the future when the tech gets better.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:28 pm
by Whackov
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
My wife has this electric leaf blower that is good for cleaning off the driveway and sidewalks after moving but sucks when the leaves start falling. The batteries don’t last long and it cannot handle the volume of leaves that we get, mostly compliments of our neighbors. Even my handheld gas powered blower can’t handle the volume. My solution this year was to buy a Stijl backpack blower and I’m planning on cutting down two trees.

The point is that this will not fair well in the south and southwest because you cannot shutdown an entire project because your battery died on your equipment. There are a lot of contractors that run sunrise to sunset, especially in the summer months. These machines will not have enough juice to last more than a few hours, especially if they are being put to heavy use.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:31 pm
by Animal
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:28 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:20 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
The Europeans and the Eastern world will gobble these things up.
The work I've done and I know Animal does involves work out in the boondocks. No way you are shutting down a job site for any amount of time, putting it on a trailer and hauling it 40 miles to find a charging station when a full diesel tank will run all day. Maybe in the future when the tech gets better.
Well, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't go to market with something you had to load on a trailer every 8 hours and haul to a charging station. But the lack of filters and engine parts is interesting. These new "regen" systems they have on these diesel engines kick my ass on costs. I fucking hate that technology. I spend more money paying techs to come out and fix the computer systems on those things because they keep the engine from running.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:31 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:27 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
I would. as long as i get the same power, run time, etc. I would at least listen to what they had to say. I could give a little on the upfront cost, if the resale value covered it.

In other words, if I can buy a 310 now for $85,000 and sell it in 8 years for $15,000. Then I would consider this one at $100,000 if I could sell it in 8 years for $30,000.
I agree it's perhaps feasible in the future but the promo not even listing the 3 points you mentioned (among others) doesn't look good.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:31 pm
by CaptQuint
Yeah, clearly John Deere doesn't know what they're doing :lol:

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:40 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:31 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:28 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:20 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
The Europeans and the Eastern world will gobble these things up.
The work I've done and I know Animal does involves work out in the boondocks. No way you are shutting down a job site for any amount of time, putting it on a trailer and hauling it 40 miles to find a charging station when a full diesel tank will run all day. Maybe in the future when the tech gets better.
Well, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't go to market with something you had to load on a trailer every 8 hours and haul to a charging station. But the lack of filters and engine parts is interesting. These new "regen" systems they have on these diesel engines kick my ass on costs. I fucking hate that technology. I spend more money paying techs to come out and fix the computer systems on those things because they keep the engine from running.
I think most can agree this type of electrical is definitely the wave of the future. But a long way to go before say someone working on a project in the desert somewhere 100 miles from a charging platform would even consider it. Perhaps a mobile charging station brought on site everyday with enough juice for the day's workload? Haul that in every night to be powered back up?

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:41 pm
by CaptQuint
Maybe it can run on diesel?


:burgerking:

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:41 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:31 pm Yeah, clearly John Deere doesn't know what they're doing :lol:
Get your heart rate down. It's just me.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:45 pm
by CaptQuint
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:41 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:31 pm Yeah, clearly John Deere doesn't know what they're doing :lol:
Get your heart rate down. It's just me.
That comment had nothing to do with you bozo

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:01 pm
by Reservoir Dog
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:28 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:20 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
The Europeans and the Eastern world will gobble these things up.
The work I've done and I know Animal does involves work out in the boondocks. No way you are shutting down a job site for any amount of time, putting it on a trailer and hauling it 40 miles to find a charging station when a full diesel tank will run all day. Maybe in the future when the tech gets better.
Case and Volvo have been making these for years. Europe, China and India are buying them up like crazy.

The United States isn't the only market in the world, dude.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:03 pm
by CaptQuint
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:01 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:28 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:20 pm
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:15 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysyhU7ZPsc[/media]

No estimated price.
No estimated run time.
No charging time estimate.
And no chance that any serious business in that type of work will spend one dime on that tech for decades.
The Europeans and the Eastern world will gobble these things up.
The work I've done and I know Animal does involves work out in the boondocks. No way you are shutting down a job site for any amount of time, putting it on a trailer and hauling it 40 miles to find a charging station when a full diesel tank will run all day. Maybe in the future when the tech gets better.
Case and Volvo have been making these for years. Europe, China and India are buying them up like crazy.

The United States isn't the only market in the world, dude.
Yeah, but it runs on a battery, you wouldn't use it 100 miles from nowhere :lol:

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:19 am
by Charliesheen
What about additional battery packs?

My Milwaukee brushless tools kick ass. Even the Sawzall gives you as much power as corded.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:49 am
by rule34
Maybe it comes with a really long extension cord.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:03 am
by CentralTexasCrude
Aren't the current batteries on even compact 2 door sedans so delicate that if you are in a crash and pinned inside, the FD has to remove/ disable the battery before they can even think about removing you/ passengers? How is that going to work on heavy industrial machines pounding away on a job site in brutal conditions? I'm thinking with the current tech, it's not.

Re: Post nothing for good reason (NSFW)

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:07 am
by CaptQuint
CentralTexasCrude wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:03 am Aren't the current batteries on even compact 2 door sedans so delicate that if you are in a crash and pinned inside, the FD has to remove/ disable the battery before they can even think about removing you/ passengers? How is that going to work on heavy industrial machines pounding away on a job site in brutal conditions? I'm thinking with the current tech, it's not.
Nothing you said is correct. Electric cars have a loop that is cut by firefighters that kill all voltage.