Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:32 am
He says what he means right? You telling me The Chump Administration got the vaccines and not the pharmaceutical companies?
Still not actually true, the russkies and chicoms got there first, while the U.S., UK and Germany are about on a par. It'll most likely be the Oxford vaccine rolling out worldwide, because it doesn't require cryogenic storage.
Neither does the Moderna vaccine.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:38 pmStill not actually true, the russkies and chicoms got there first, while the U.S., UK and Germany are about on a par. It'll most likely be the Oxford vaccine rolling out worldwide, because it doesn't require cryogenic storage.
wasn't that the one that they said had to go back and start over? I mean, not from the beginning, but they have to re-do something?
Rand Paul says Fauci owes parents and students an apology over pandemic measures
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) scolded Anthony Fauci in a tweet on Sunday, suggesting the nation's leading infectious disease expert apologize for his warnings about the danger the coronavirus poses to school-age children.
"Dr Fauci owes @RandPaul an apology," one of Paul's Twitter followers said.
Paul responded: "No, he owes one to every single parent and school-age child in America. I told him this multiple times this summer."
Fauci and Paul have clashed several times since the pandemic began, with the Kentucky Republican accusing Fauci of fear-mongering rhetoric and what he says is incorrect praise of so-called lockdown measures implemented to stem the spread of the virus.
“Dr. Fauci, every day we seem to hear from you things we can’t do. But when you’re asked, ‘Can we go back to school?’ I don’t hear much certitude at all. ‘Well, maybe.’ ‘It depends.’ Guess what? It’s rare for kids to transmit this. I don’t hear that coming from you. All I hear is, ‘We can’t do this, we can’t do that, we can’t play baseball,’ ” Paul said while demanding schools reopen during a Senate hearing in late June. “It’s important to realize that if society meekly submits to an expert and that expert is wrong, a great deal of harm may occur when we allow one man’s policy or one group of small men and women to be foisted on an entire nation."
Fauci responded to Paul at the hearing, saying he feels "very strongly we need to do whatever we can to get the children back to school."
During the early days of the pandemic, Fauci and other public health officials urged local school districts to consider all factors before deciding if it was safe to have children and teachers return to classrooms.
On Sunday, Fauci clarified his position on school closures amid a nationwide spike in coronavirus cases this fall.
"The default position should be to try as best as possible, within reason, to keep the children in school, to get them back to school," Fauci said on ABC's "This Week." "If you look at the data, the spread among children and from children is not very big at all, not like one would have suspected. So let's try to get the kids back. But let's try to mitigate the things that maintain and push the kind of community spread we are trying to avoid. And those are the things you know well. The bars, the restaurants ... those are the things that drive the community spread. Not the schools."
Gee, isn't that the moron that got the plague because he didn't take it seriously, exposing others in the Senate?Biker wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:07 pmRand Paul says Fauci owes parents and students an apology over pandemic measures
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) scolded Anthony Fauci in a tweet on Sunday, suggesting the nation's leading infectious disease expert apologize for his warnings about the danger the coronavirus poses to school-age children.
"Dr Fauci owes @RandPaul an apology," one of Paul's Twitter followers said.
Paul responded: "No, he owes one to every single parent and school-age child in America. I told him this multiple times this summer."
Fauci and Paul have clashed several times since the pandemic began, with the Kentucky Republican accusing Fauci of fear-mongering rhetoric and what he says is incorrect praise of so-called lockdown measures implemented to stem the spread of the virus.
“Dr. Fauci, every day we seem to hear from you things we can’t do. But when you’re asked, ‘Can we go back to school?’ I don’t hear much certitude at all. ‘Well, maybe.’ ‘It depends.’ Guess what? It’s rare for kids to transmit this. I don’t hear that coming from you. All I hear is, ‘We can’t do this, we can’t do that, we can’t play baseball,’ ” Paul said while demanding schools reopen during a Senate hearing in late June. “It’s important to realize that if society meekly submits to an expert and that expert is wrong, a great deal of harm may occur when we allow one man’s policy or one group of small men and women to be foisted on an entire nation."
Fauci responded to Paul at the hearing, saying he feels "very strongly we need to do whatever we can to get the children back to school."
During the early days of the pandemic, Fauci and other public health officials urged local school districts to consider all factors before deciding if it was safe to have children and teachers return to classrooms.
On Sunday, Fauci clarified his position on school closures amid a nationwide spike in coronavirus cases this fall.
"The default position should be to try as best as possible, within reason, to keep the children in school, to get them back to school," Fauci said on ABC's "This Week." "If you look at the data, the spread among children and from children is not very big at all, not like one would have suspected. So let's try to get the kids back. But let's try to mitigate the things that maintain and push the kind of community spread we are trying to avoid. And those are the things you know well. The bars, the restaurants ... those are the things that drive the community spread. Not the schools."
They gave doses that were far lower than planned to some of those that were tested.
that seems like a pretty stupid mistake to make during a study of this magnitude. right?FSchmertz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:49 pmThey gave doses that were far lower than planned to some of those that were tested.
What's really weird is the lower doses seemed to be more protective. They're trying to figure that out.
Here's hoping it's not due to mistakes caused by speeding up the process. Though I'm sure regulators/monitors will be looking at that, being a common cause of errors.Animal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:01 pmthat seems like a pretty stupid mistake to make during a study of this magnitude. right?FSchmertz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:49 pmThey gave doses that were far lower than planned to some of those that were tested.
What's really weird is the lower doses seemed to be more protective. They're trying to figure that out.
i mean, if they learn something good from it, then mistakes in science often lead to results, but the point is how could they be in the middle of a study this important and get the dosage wrong?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/21/us/p ... ccine.htmlDr. Graham said that after China released the genetic sequence of the new virus, the vaccine research center zeroed in on the gene for the virus’s spike protein and sent the data to Moderna in a Microsoft Word file. Moderna’s scientists had independently identified the same gene. Mr. Bancel said Moderna then plugged that data into its computers and came up with the design for an mRNA vaccine. The entire process took two days.
Um, you have a design, then you have to figure out how to manufacture the design. Not to mention test it when you make enough of it. So "creating it in 2 days" is "just" a slight exaggeration.DandyDon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:35 am Its pretty amazing that the Moderna vaccine was created in just 2 days.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/21/us/p ... ccine.htmlDr. Graham said that after China released the genetic sequence of the new virus, the vaccine research center zeroed in on the gene for the virus’s spike protein and sent the data to Moderna in a Microsoft Word file. Moderna’s scientists had independently identified the same gene. Mr. Bancel said Moderna then plugged that data into its computers and came up with the design for an mRNA vaccine. The entire process took two days.
AI solves 50-year-old science problem in ‘stunning advance’ that could dramatically change how we fight diseases, researchers sayDandyDon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:35 am Its pretty amazing that the Moderna vaccine was created in just 2 days.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/21/us/p ... ccine.htmlDr. Graham said that after China released the genetic sequence of the new virus, the vaccine research center zeroed in on the gene for the virus’s spike protein and sent the data to Moderna in a Microsoft Word file. Moderna’s scientists had independently identified the same gene. Mr. Bancel said Moderna then plugged that data into its computers and came up with the design for an mRNA vaccine. The entire process took two days.