Re: Acute TDS
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:40 pm
Yeah! Let’s stay in Afghanistan and Syria! In fact, let’s send more American men there!
To die.
For nothing.
To die.
For nothing.
Yes.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:57 pmIs the once Great Britain still engaged with the Taliban in Afghanistan?analhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:47 pm You're also old enough to remember why america is fighting islamic terrorists. There's a reason trump's military and intelligence advisers don't want an abrupt pullout, while Putin, Assad, Iran and the Taliban do.
Was there a statement of support in there you fucking child? I already made my stance clear. In principle I am for leaving these areas but it has to be done in the right way that ensures maximum safety for us and our allies. Not just because Trump wants to derp it out over Twitter one day based on nothing that any of our intelligence or military offices have even remotely advised him of. Your TBWS is off the charts here. You'll lieterally support anything the guy proposes just on principle.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:55 pmSo youre good with an indefinite period of war? Some liberal you arestymiegreen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:48 pmMitch Mconnell sponsored the bill dippy...I guess he has TDS too? Better to focus on the random tweeter you assume is a liberal though.
Bush sent troops in 1992, Clinton pulled them out in 1994. Next Bush sent a few back after 9/11, but trump doubling troop levels in somalia, to crickets from his fans, still leaves the number deployed at about 500. What the war machine is actually doing is pretty effectively suppressing al shabaab, an offshoot of Al Qaeda, using a pretty miniscule force, the African Union, and about 50 airstrikes a year.
Amnesia/schizophrenic biker I guess thinks we forget all the years you supported Bush and thus shit on all the liberals that called for withdrawal from Iraq by claiming they were rooting for US troops to die....now you are here because Trump is derping about a withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan lamenting when you remembered people were liberals that supported withdrawal. You are an opportunistic opinionator who bases most of your decisions on pure emotion. In other words a pure Trumpcuck snowflake of the tallest order.
What mistake did you admit? I left the lights on in the abortion thread you pathetic fool. Man up.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:28 pmArent you also the one that claimed I cannot admit a mistake? I do just that and you still act like a tight assed old twatanalhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:26 pm You can't really discuss anything with someone who can't even admit a simple misreading of a statute, an absolutely clear irrefutable error. He has the maturity of a pre schooler, he just lacks the mental capacity to alter his position in response to evidence. His position is just whatever trump last tweets.
That's authorised backtracking led by talking heads who tell you what to think and said it first. The abortion thread is your personal error and you expose yourself as a pathetic little child by being unable to return to it and admit your absolutely irrefutable mistake.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:38 pmI said I was wrong to believe in Bush's ME policies.analhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:36 pmWhat mistake did you admit? I left the lights on in the abortion thread you pathetic fool. Man up.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:28 pmArent you also the one that claimed I cannot admit a mistake? I do just that and you still act like a tight assed old twatanalhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:26 pm You can't really discuss anything with someone who can't even admit a simple misreading of a statute, an absolutely clear irrefutable error. He has the maturity of a pre schooler, he just lacks the mental capacity to alter his position in response to evidence. His position is just whatever trump last tweets.
Well no. You cited the actual statute and claimed it said the opposite of what it said. What could you possibly need to confirm? You just failed in basic reading comprehension and are too childish to admit it. There is no more to it than that and never will be. The only question you need to answer is what does the statute you quoted say. That is the question you are running away from, because you now know what it does in fact say but can't admit it. Your confirmation bias is so extreme that it has affected your ability to read. This is an important thing for you to grasp about yourself.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:45 pmI'm still researching the abortion thing to confirm if I indeed erred. I'll circle back around when I know for sureanalhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:44 pmThat's authorised backtracking led by talking heads who tell you what to think and said it first. The abortion thread is your personal error and you expose yourself as a pathetic little child by being unable to return to it and admit your absolutely irrefutable mistake.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:38 pmI said I was wrong to believe in Bush's ME policies.analhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:36 pmWhat mistake did you admit? I left the lights on in the abortion thread you pathetic fool. Man up.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:28 pmArent you also the one that claimed I cannot admit a mistake? I do just that and you still act like a tight assed old twatanalhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:26 pm You can't really discuss anything with someone who can't even admit a simple misreading of a statute, an absolutely clear irrefutable error. He has the maturity of a pre schooler, he just lacks the mental capacity to alter his position in response to evidence. His position is just whatever trump last tweets.
Deal?
What is "neo-con" about my stance? I want us out of Syria and Afghanistan...that doesn't mean that I support Trump just declaring on a whim we are withdrawing and ignoring every single one of our military branches and intelligence agencies to do so. That puts our people and our allies in danger when there is no agreement or coordination on a strategy. No deliberation of what is best for our people. He is just making shit up as he goes along. Why would you support that? His policies are based on nothing but whatever news report or who knows what other source he reads that day. That is dangerous and reckless. Stop trying to morph that into me supporting "endless wars" to deflect from your own poorly thought out stance.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:20 pmAnd for hundredth time, Bush was wrong and so was I for supporting his policies.stymiegreen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:10 pmAmnesia/schizophrenic biker I guess thinks we forget all the years you supported Bush and thus shit on all the liberals that called for withdrawal from Iraq by claiming they were rooting for US troops to die....now you are here because Trump is derping about a withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan lamenting when you remembered people were liberals that supported withdrawal. You are an opportunistic opinionator who bases most of your decisions on pure emotion. In other words a pure Trumpcuck snowflake of the tallest order.
Now here you come, in your brand spanking new neo-con suit. So does that make you amnesia/schizo green too or nah?
Why did you shift directly to Afghanistan and ignore Syria? Syria is where Trump derped ISIS was defeated and we were withdrawing immediately. At least in Afghanistan we are wrapping a potential withdrawal with an agreement from the Taliban and the Afghan President. That strategy is way more laudible than the Syria one. So again...why did you ignore Trumps strategy in Syria where he just started tweeting about withdrawal that had no input from any of the concerned parties on our side and just focus on Afghanistan to call me a neocon? You are all over the place.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:15 pmIt makes you a neo-con in the sense that those strategies (preparing the locals for security, ect...) is exactly the Bush-Obama doctrine. How is it that after 17 years the Afghan people are not prepared for our total withdrawal? How many more years do they need FFS?stymiegreen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:11 pmWhat is "neo-con" about my stance? I want us out of Syria and Afghanistan...that doesn't mean that I support Trump just declaring on a whim we are withdrawing and ignoring every single one of our military branches and intelligence agencies to do so. That puts our people and our allies in danger when there is no agreement or coordination on a strategy. No deliberation of what is best for our people. He is just making shit up as he goes along. Why would you support that? His policies are based on nothing but whatever news report or who knows what other source he reads that day. That is dangerous and reckless. Stop trying to morph that into me supporting "endless wars" to deflect from your own poorly thought out stance.Biker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:20 pmAnd for hundredth time, Bush was wrong and so was I for supporting his policies.stymiegreen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:10 pmAmnesia/schizophrenic biker I guess thinks we forget all the years you supported Bush and thus shit on all the liberals that called for withdrawal from Iraq by claiming they were rooting for US troops to die....now you are here because Trump is derping about a withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan lamenting when you remembered people were liberals that supported withdrawal. You are an opportunistic opinionator who bases most of your decisions on pure emotion. In other words a pure Trumpcuck snowflake of the tallest order.
Now here you come, in your brand spanking new neo-con suit. So does that make you amnesia/schizo green too or nah?
We're there because the defense industry and their lobbyists want us there. Its what Ike described and the military industrial complex
Again...I have said nuerous times that I would prefer we leave both places. I have also said that it should be done with coordination between our forces and the executive branch including Trump. It is reckless and dangerous that Trump consults no one and just declares our intentions to withdraw on a whim and at worst case that he alters our policy to spite Intelligence agencies that he views have contradicted him publicly. There is nothing about that approach that should be encouraged or supported in any way. To do so is saying you are more concerned with Trumps ego or how he is credited for his decisions rather than what is actually good for the country.
Trump consulted with Putin and Vlad thought it a fine idea.stymiegreen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:31 pmAgain...I have said nuerous times that I would prefer we leave both places. I have also said that it should be done with coordination between our forces and the executive branch including Trump. It is reckless and dangerous that Trump consults no one and just declares our intentions to withdraw on a whim and at worst case that he alters our policy to spite Intelligence agencies that he views have contradicted him publicly. There is nothing about that approach that should be encouraged or supported in any way. To do so is saying you are more concerned with Trumps ego or how he is credited for his decisions rather than what is actually good for the country.
Dude, really?analhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:36 pmBush sent troops in 1992, Clinton pulled them out in 1994. Next Bush sent a few back after 9/11, but trump doubling troop levels in somalia, to crickets from his fans, still leaves the number deployed at about 500. What the war machine is actually doing is pretty effectively suppressing al shabaab, an offshoot of Al Qaeda, using a pretty miniscule force, the African Union, and about 50 airstrikes a year.
Yup, that's the actual history and current situation. The initial intervention was due to the war, famine and starving babies being shown on CNN. The return and continuing small scale involvement was due to 9/11 and it being an AQ base. When you can explain things without a vast shadowy conspiracy, Occam suggests that's generally gonna be the way to go.megman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:51 pmDude, really?analhamster wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:36 pmBush sent troops in 1992, Clinton pulled them out in 1994. Next Bush sent a few back after 9/11, but trump doubling troop levels in somalia, to crickets from his fans, still leaves the number deployed at about 500. What the war machine is actually doing is pretty effectively suppressing al shabaab, an offshoot of Al Qaeda, using a pretty miniscule force, the African Union, and about 50 airstrikes a year.
I'm beginning to think this Trump fella may not have our best interests in mind.captquint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:40 pmTrump consulted with Putin and Vlad thought it a fine idea.stymiegreen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:31 pmAgain...I have said nuerous times that I would prefer we leave both places. I have also said that it should be done with coordination between our forces and the executive branch including Trump. It is reckless and dangerous that Trump consults no one and just declares our intentions to withdraw on a whim and at worst case that he alters our policy to spite Intelligence agencies that he views have contradicted him publicly. There is nothing about that approach that should be encouraged or supported in any way. To do so is saying you are more concerned with Trumps ego or how he is credited for his decisions rather than what is actually good for the country.