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It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:30 pm
by Biker
and its only because the CCP is involved with the app. We would never, ever just ban a website cuz we dont like it :roll:
House Passes Bill That Could Ban TikTok From US

‘TikTok’s time in the United States is over unless it ends its relationship with CCP-controlled ByteDance,’ says Rep. Mike Gallagher.


‘TikTok’s time in the United States is over unless it ends its relationship with CCP-controlled ByteDance,’ says Rep. Mike Gallagher.

The House of Representatives has passed a bill that could ban TikTok from the United States and grant the president sweeping new authorities to target foreign companies in the United States.

The Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act was passed in a bipartisan 352–65 vote on March 13; 197 Republicans and 155 Democrats voted in favor of the bill, while 50 Democrats and 15 Republicans voted against it. One Democrat voted “present.”

The bill would legally require social media giant TikTok to divest from its China-based parent company, ByteDance, or face a ban on U.S. app stores and hosting services.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am
by CHEEZY17
In theory, I like the ban of the Chinese information gathering app.
The information I've heard that this bill contains though would give the Executive branch authority to ban WEBSITES it doesnt like. God knows that would never be abused, right?

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:13 am
by Reservoir Dog
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am In theory, I like the ban of the Chinese information gathering app.
You're gonna shit yourself when you find out about Microsoft, Google and Facebook. :lol:

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 am
by CHEEZY17
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:13 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am In theory, I like the ban of the Chinese information gathering app.
You're gonna shit yourself when you find out about Microsoft, Google and Facebook. :lol:
Oh, do they gather information for the Chinese government?

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:38 am
by Antknot
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:13 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am In theory, I like the ban of the Chinese information gathering app.
You're gonna shit yourself when you find out about Microsoft, Google and Facebook. :lol:
Oh, do they gather information for the Chinese government?
Yes. Especially when they get paid for it

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:42 am
by CHEEZY17
Antknot wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:38 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:13 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am In theory, I like the ban of the Chinese information gathering app.
You're gonna shit yourself when you find out about Microsoft, Google and Facebook. :lol:
Oh, do they gather information for the Chinese government?
Yes. Especially when they get paid for it
Then thats bullshit as well.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:42 am
by Reservoir Dog
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:24 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:13 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am In theory, I like the ban of the Chinese information gathering app.
You're gonna shit yourself when you find out about Microsoft, Google and Facebook. :lol:
Oh, do they gather information for the Chinese government?
Probably. :lol:

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:04 pm
by QillerDaemon
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am In theory, I like the ban of the Chinese information gathering app.
The information I've heard that this bill contains though would give the Executive branch authority to ban WEBSITES it doesnt like. God knows that would never be abused, right?
Well, we wouldn't want the wrong person sitting in the Prez' chair have that kind of authority, wouldn't we...

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:27 pm
by Antknot
Two questions: do you think it’ll get passed the Senate? Do you think Biden or veto it?

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:35 pm
by Animal
Antknot wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:27 pm Two questions: do you think it’ll get passed the Senate? Do you think Biden or veto it?
No doubt Biden will veto it, he already said that he will.

I don't think it will get through the Senate. This is just too over the top McCarthy-ism level stuff.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:43 pm
by Reservoir Dog
What do these people think China is going to learn from TikTok?

Are they going to get your launch codes? Secret orders to the Pacific fleet? A list of CIA spies in Europe?

What makes TikTok a National Security risk?

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:49 pm
by Animal
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:43 pm What do these people think China is going to learn from TikTok?

Are they going to get your launch codes? Secret orders to the Pacific fleet? A list of CIA spies in Europe?

What makes TikTok a National Security risk?
it reminds me of the people that worry about Alexa filming them in their house or the security cameras that might be recording stuff. Who do people think has the time to go through the bazillion hours worth of non sense to wait on one moment of something interesting?

I have 4 survellance cameras on our construction yard and 99.99999% of the video footage is never seen by anyone. Its my own stuff and I can't stand watching it.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:46 pm
by CHEEZY17
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:43 pm What do these people think China is going to learn from TikTok?

Are they going to get your launch codes? Secret orders to the Pacific fleet? A list of CIA spies in Europe?

What makes TikTok a National Security risk?
I believe the concern is what the app could potentially give access to: account numbers, passwords etc. and the potential, once installed on someones device, leading to a breach of other sensitive things which is why many state governments have banned employees from using it.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:56 pm
by Reservoir Dog
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:46 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:43 pm What do these people think China is going to learn from TikTok?

Are they going to get your launch codes? Secret orders to the Pacific fleet? A list of CIA spies in Europe?

What makes TikTok a National Security risk?
I believe the concern is what the app could potentially give access to: account numbers, passwords etc. and the potential, once installed on someones device, leading to a breach of other sensitive things which is why many state governments have banned employees from using it.
So if people who have sensitive information on their computer don't have TikTok on their computer... what's the problem?

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:59 pm
by Biker
Animal wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:35 pm No doubt Biden will veto it, he already said that he will.
Ummm, no

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/politics/bi ... t/3485426/

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:14 pm
by rule34
So it's ok if a us company collects info on you but not a chinese one?

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:19 pm
by Reservoir Dog
rule34 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:14 pm So it's ok if a us company collects info on you but not a chinese one?
It's just paranoid, McCarthyism bullshit.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:47 pm
by Animal
Biker wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:59 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:35 pm No doubt Biden will veto it, he already said that he will.
Ummm, no

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/politics/bi ... t/3485426/
oh, sorry. i meant to say that he would sign it. not veto it. yeah, I heard yesterday after the vote that he has already said that if it hits his desk he will sign it.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:52 pm
by CHEEZY17
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:56 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:46 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:43 pm What do these people think China is going to learn from TikTok?

Are they going to get your launch codes? Secret orders to the Pacific fleet? A list of CIA spies in Europe?

What makes TikTok a National Security risk?
I believe the concern is what the app could potentially give access to: account numbers, passwords etc. and the potential, once installed on someones device, leading to a breach of other sensitive things which is why many state governments have banned employees from using it.
So if people who have sensitive information on their computer don't have TikTok on their computer... what's the problem?
People are dumb and Tik Tok is incredibly popular?

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:56 pm
by Animal
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:56 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:46 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:43 pm What do these people think China is going to learn from TikTok?

Are they going to get your launch codes? Secret orders to the Pacific fleet? A list of CIA spies in Europe?

What makes TikTok a National Security risk?
I believe the concern is what the app could potentially give access to: account numbers, passwords etc. and the potential, once installed on someones device, leading to a breach of other sensitive things which is why many state governments have banned employees from using it.
So if people who have sensitive information on their computer don't have TikTok on their computer... what's the problem?
here's the thing. if a person has tik tok on their iphone. and the chinese government goes in and installs a worm into their tik tok and it gets into their phone. then it could crawl from their tiktok app in their phone into their email account app that is also on their phone and it could attach itself. and then when they go into work and they log into their email, *BOOM*! They are in. The chinese government would then have complete control of your work computer.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:00 pm
by stonedmegman
The NSA hates competition.

Re: It's just TikTok.....

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:13 pm
by CentralTexasCrude
stonedmegman wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:00 pm The NSA hates competition.
🤣 well done sir