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Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:10 pm
by Blast
Farm just got hit by Highly pathogenic avian influenza and we are having to euthanize the entire flock. Get your eggs now, this fall is gonna be rough. No there isn't any saving the birds, 90 +% death rate, survivors wouldn't matter as all the birds are actually sterile from what I understand.
So in the next 48 hours we will be killing off the entire flock and moving then to storage so we can get them mixed with material to compost them. Comparing is the best way of dealing with them as the heat generated kills the virus and any other pathogens.
Ask questions, I'm gonna need the distractions.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:30 pm
by CHEEZY17
Fuck, that sucks. Just when it seemed things were trying to get back to normal.
I know it seems difficult but aren't there some birds that don't get it; as in they have a natural immunity? If you can isolate those birds wouldn't it make sense to keep those birds alive? It just seems counter productive to kill healthy birds that show an immunity to the virus.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:53 pm
by Who
So much winning

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:57 pm
by Blast
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:30 pm Fuck, that sucks. Just when it seemed things were trying to get back to normal.
I know it seems difficult but aren't there some birds that don't get it; as in they have a natural immunity? If you can isolate those birds wouldn't it make sense to keep those birds alive? It just seems counter productive to kill healthy birds that show an immunity to the virus.
There are no birds that are immune, Waterfowl are the main vectors and the virus is actually now endemic in small mammals and a lot of cows. As I mentioned above, the birds in the egg laying flocks are sterile, so saving them wouldn't matter. I've also heard that there is a vaccine but due to international politics, we can't use it. Something about if we vaccinate the egg laying birds the meat birds can't be sold out of the country, some shit like that.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:03 pm
by Biker
Who wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:53 pmSo much winning
So much cuntery

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:06 pm
by CHEEZY17
Blast wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:57 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:30 pm Fuck, that sucks. Just when it seemed things were trying to get back to normal.
I know it seems difficult but aren't there some birds that don't get it; as in they have a natural immunity? If you can isolate those birds wouldn't it make sense to keep those birds alive? It just seems counter productive to kill healthy birds that show an immunity to the virus.
There are no birds that are immune, Waterfowl are the main vectors and the virus is actually now endemic in small mammals and a lot of cows. As I mentioned above, the birds in the egg laying flocks are sterile, so saving them wouldn't matter. I've also heard that there is a vaccine but due to international politics, we can't use it. Something about if we vaccinate the egg laying birds the meat birds can't be sold out of the country, some shit like that.
OK. I thought I heard from the last outbreak that it didn't affect all chickens. Do you know how widespread it is?

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:48 pm
by Animal
I saw a documentary the other day on how they are able to change dna in field mice that carry the virus that ticks get and spread that causes lyme disease. they can inject the mice somehow, change their DNA, and then they no longer can get the virus and their offspring will never be able to get it either. It forever changes the mice so that they no longer can get lyme disease and therefore no longer pass it on to ticks.

I would imagine that this technology will be able to be used in this as well, if they do it.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:41 pm
by Blast
Animal wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:48 pm I saw a documentary the other day on how they are able to change dna in field mice that carry the virus that ticks get and spread that causes lyme disease. they can inject the mice somehow, change their DNA, and then they no longer can get the virus and their offspring will never be able to get it either. It forever changes the mice so that they no longer can get lyme disease and therefore no longer pass it on to ticks.

I would imagine that this technology will be able to be used in this as well, if they do it.
This flu changes frequently, there are many different variations, just like with the fly that we get every year. The scale would be damn near impossible as well since so many animals carry it without being sickened.

Who, i shouldn't bother with you, this is kinda bigger than politics. Your whiney, cunty, winning comment shows that you really don't understand what's going on, the scope of the issue and how farms getting hit with this virus affects the entire supply chain in the country. But when your mental capacity is the equivalent of a rock, and you have dementia I don't expect much, but you still managed to disappoint me.

It's extremely widespread, with the migrations coming down from Canada, the birds are bringing it with them, then as I said, there are rodents and small mammals that are vectors that are not effected.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:52 pm
by Animal
Blast wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:48 pm I saw a documentary the other day on how they are able to change dna in field mice that carry the virus that ticks get and spread that causes lyme disease. they can inject the mice somehow, change their DNA, and then they no longer can get the virus and their offspring will never be able to get it either. It forever changes the mice so that they no longer can get lyme disease and therefore no longer pass it on to ticks.

I would imagine that this technology will be able to be used in this as well, if they do it.
This flu changes frequently, there are many different variations, just like with the fly that we get every year. The scale would be damn near impossible as well since so many animals carry it without being sickened.

Who, i shouldn't bother with you, this is kinda bigger than politics. Your whiney, cunty, winning comment shows that you really don't understand what's going on, the scope of the issue and how farms getting hit with this virus affects the entire supply chain in the country. But when your mental capacity is the equivalent of a rock, and you have dementia I don't expect much, but you still managed to disappoint me.

It's extremely widespread, with the migrations coming down from Canada, the birds are bringing it with them, then as I said, there are rodents and small mammals that are vectors that are not effected.
Like in that field mice study with lyme disease, it all starts with locating one mouse that seems to be immune. then isolating that part of their DNA. Maybe, somewhere there is a chicken that can't get any of these strains of bird flu. If so, that's the starting point. Its basically evolution sped up a million years. Rather than letting nature find that surving genetic and letting natural selection weed out the ones that die from the ones that are immune, we can do that ourselves with one injection.

It may not apply to this situation, but it was an interesting solution. Because the "go to" method of solving this problem would be to start poisoning all of the field mice so that the ticks no longer have a source for the disease. But what does that change do to the food chain?

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:05 pm
by nerd_alert
Wing party at Blast's place! :-)

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:56 pm
by hawkfan8812
How many chicken are we talking about?

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:48 pm
by WarmBidetWater
What's the preferred method of euthanasia? Asking for a friend...

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:58 pm
by Who
I’m shocked animal is pro vaccine

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:58 pm
by Blast
hawkfan8812 wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:56 pm How many chicken are we talking about?
> 1 million birds. I really can't be too specific
WarmBidetWater wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:48 pm What's the preferred method of euthanasia? Asking for a friend...
Whatever they tell us, but we used heat. Got the barns to a set temp while using torpedo heaters, reduces the oxygen levels to a point they lay down and go to sleep. Not sure of all the science but we have to use a certain number of btu based on the size of the barn. I went in there to help unplugg the heaters and it was was not pleasant, worst sauna ever.
Who wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:58 pm I’m shocked animal is pro vaccine
I'm shocked you're still breathing.
nerd_alert wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:05 pm Wing party at Blast's place! :-)
you don't want to eat those things, there's not enough meat on one bird for a can of campbell's chicken soup.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:01 am
by Blast
Animal wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:52 pm
Blast wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:48 pm I saw a documentary the other day on how they are able to change dna in field mice that carry the virus that ticks get and spread that causes lyme disease. they can inject the mice somehow, change their DNA, and then they no longer can get the virus and their offspring will never be able to get it either. It forever changes the mice so that they no longer can get lyme disease and therefore no longer pass it on to ticks.

I would imagine that this technology will be able to be used in this as well, if they do it.
This flu changes frequently, there are many different variations, just like with the fly that we get every year. The scale would be damn near impossible as well since so many animals carry it without being sickened.

Who, i shouldn't bother with you, this is kinda bigger than politics. Your whiney, cunty, winning comment shows that you really don't understand what's going on, the scope of the issue and how farms getting hit with this virus affects the entire supply chain in the country. But when your mental capacity is the equivalent of a rock, and you have dementia I don't expect much, but you still managed to disappoint me.

It's extremely widespread, with the migrations coming down from Canada, the birds are bringing it with them, then as I said, there are rodents and small mammals that are vectors that are not effected.
Like in that field mice study with lyme disease, it all starts with locating one mouse that seems to be immune. then isolating that part of their DNA. Maybe, somewhere there is a chicken that can't get any of these strains of bird flu. If so, that's the starting point. Its basically evolution sped up a million years. Rather than letting nature find that surving genetic and letting natural selection weed out the ones that die from the ones that are immune, we can do that ourselves with one injection.

It may not apply to this situation, but it was an interesting solution. Because the "go to" method of solving this problem would be to start poisoning all of the field mice so that the ticks no longer have a source for the disease. But what does that change do to the food chain?
There is a vaccine, but trade regs prevent us from using it. We do vaccinate the birds for Newcastle but ut took damn near 30 years for it to be approved. This last spring it was almost approved but alas the egg process went back down.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:40 am
by nerd_alert
Blast wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:01 am There is a vaccine, but trade regs prevent us from using it. We do vaccinate the birds for Newcastle but ut took damn near 30 years for it to be approved. This last spring it was almost approved but alas the egg process went back down.
Can the chickens take Tylenol? A Health Secretary wants to know.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:03 am
by Who
nerd_alert wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:40 am
Blast wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:01 am There is a vaccine, but trade regs prevent us from using it. We do vaccinate the birds for Newcastle but ut took damn near 30 years for it to be approved. This last spring it was almost approved but alas the egg process went back down.
Can the chickens take Tylenol? A Health Secretary wants to know.
Autistic chickens ew

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2025 4:06 pm
by Blast
Who wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 1:03 am
nerd_alert wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:40 am
Blast wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 12:01 am There is a vaccine, but trade regs prevent us from using it. We do vaccinate the birds for Newcastle but ut took damn near 30 years for it to be approved. This last spring it was almost approved but alas the egg process went back down.
Can the chickens take Tylenol? A Health Secretary wants to know.
Autistic chickens ew
Chickens are already retarded.

We tried masks but they then demanded blue feather dye. Beak piercings, and damanded we regret to them as cocks.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:13 am
by nerd_alert
Blast wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 4:06 pm
Chickens are already retarded.

We tried masks but they then demanded blue feather dye. Beak piercings, and damanded we regret to them as cocks.
What do you do with the chickens that rip their masks off and starting screaming "Yur takin' our freedums away!" ?? :-)

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:48 pm
by JackCoughsALot
Before you kill them, find out why they crossed the road.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 9:10 pm
by nerd_alert
JackCoughsALot wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:48 pm Before you kill them, find out why they crossed the road.
lol! :D Finally an answer to the age-old question!

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:48 am
by CHEEZY17
Image

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 9:24 am
by Blast
CHEEZY17 wrote: Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:48 am Image
Not enough meat on the whole farm.
JackCoughsALot wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:48 pm Before you kill them, find out why they crossed the road.
They thought they saw Elvis.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 9:25 am
by Blast
nerd_alert wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 12:13 am
Blast wrote: Fri Sep 26, 2025 4:06 pm
Chickens are already retarded.

We tried masks but they then demanded blue feather dye. Beak piercings, and damanded we regret to them as cocks.
What do you do with the chickens that rip their masks off and starting screaming "Yur takin' our freedums away!" ?? :-)
Shrug and say whatever. I hate those things too.

Re: Well, this sucks

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:31 pm
by Ricrude
Blast wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:41 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:48 pm I saw a documentary the other day on how they are able to change dna in field mice that carry the virus that ticks get and spread that causes lyme disease. they can inject the mice somehow, change their DNA, and then they no longer can get the virus and their offspring will never be able to get it either. It forever changes the mice so that they no longer can get lyme disease and therefore no longer pass it on to ticks.

I would imagine that this technology will be able to be used in this as well, if they do it.
This flu changes frequently, there are many different variations, just like with the fly that we get every year. The scale would be damn near impossible as well since so many animals carry it without being sickened.

Who, i shouldn't bother with you, this is kinda bigger than politics. Your whiney, cunty, winning comment shows that you really don't understand what's going on, the scope of the issue and how farms getting hit with this virus affects the entire supply chain in the country. But when your mental capacity is the equivalent of a rock, and you have dementia I don't expect much, but you still managed to disappoint me.

It's extremely widespread, with the migrations coming down from Canada, the birds are bringing it with them, then as I said, there are rodents and small mammals that are vectors that are not effected.
When you say migrations of waterfowl is that specifically the Canadian Geese or is it any bird from Canada?